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Is Windows 8 Killing PC Sales? Read The Fine Print: The Report Of Windows' Death Was An Exaggeration
Forbes ^ | 04/12/2013 | David K. Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2013 5:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

On May 5, 1907, The New York Times published a column written that same morning by Mark Twain on the news of his death the day before. “You can assure my Virginia friends,” said Twain, “that I will make an exhaustive investigation of this report that I have been lost at sea. If there is any foundation for the report, I will at once apprise the anxious public.” The event led to the oft-misquoted phrase: “The report of my death was an exaggeration.”

Everyone it seems, loves a good untimely death

So much so, the Wikipedia maintains a list of 219 famous erroneous death reports. Paul McCartney was reported dead on a radio show in 1966, with fans convinced he’d been replaced by an impostor. Pope John Paul II is on the list with the distinction of being the only known triple recipient of early death news reports. And the US House of Representatives cemented its reputation as the best comedy show in town when news of Bob Hope’s death was reported on the floor and broadcast on C-SPAN…five years too early. And so it goes with taking news at face value.

Even me

I guess I’m no different in proffering bold headlines of untimely deaths, but I do think it’s important not to take any data at face value. This week, the newswires are blazing with the news that PC shipments dropped 14% year-over-year. You’d think the zombie apocalypse was upon us (yes, there’s a list of false apocalypses too). But when I look at the fine print, I draw a different conclusion. Note that tablets – including the ones with detachable keyboards – are *not* included in the PC shipments figure.

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1 posted on 04/14/2013 5:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

AUTHOR WONDERS IF ALL THIS TOUTING OF THE DEATH OF THE PC IS ALL HYPE AND NOTHING MORE:

He says:

Don’t sound the alarm with only half of the story

Well, duh! Isn’t that Microsoft‘s intent – to shift PC sales to tablets? Could it be that Microsoft’s strategy is beginning to work, and we’re seeing Windows 8 & Windows RT tablets starting to take hold? We know that enterprise interest in proactively adopting Windows 8 is muted, but our Q3 2012 Workforce Employee Survey data is remarkably promising for Windows 8’s prospects for BYOD in the enterprise, with a full 20% of information workers reporting that they want Windows 8 on their next tablet, vs. 26% for iOS. Not bad considering that Windows 8 wasn’t quite shipping yet when we fielded the survey.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 5:34:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

what on earth is Blackberry playbook


3 posted on 04/14/2013 5:35:11 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

The idea of wanting to make a PC somehow or other work like a tablet or gadget (Windows 8) is basically idiotic.


4 posted on 04/14/2013 5:40:58 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: SeekAndFind

Arafat’s death was reported numerous times before he actually cashed in. I know, I read it numerous times, right here.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 5:45:34 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

if pcs last like they should, people wouldn’t need to keep replacing them...............


6 posted on 04/14/2013 5:47:15 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

7 posted on 04/14/2013 5:47:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just signed a contract with a very large client. Said contract requires we conduct all invoicing thru an internet portal they have set up. They gave us minimum requirements and specifically stated Win 8 not supported. Chrome not supported either.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 5:56:56 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: varmintman
The idea of wanting to make a PC somehow or other work like a tablet or gadget (Windows 8) is basically idiotic.

Not at all. It will make it easier for developers to deploy applications across multiple platforms at once. In Windows 8 on a desktop, you can avoid the Start Screen by pinning your most used applications to the Task Bar. The Live Tiles are nice though.

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9 posted on 04/14/2013 5:58:48 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All these reports of declining “PC” sales are a little deceptive when tablets are counted in a separate category. Tablets are personal computers, though smaller and with less functionality in most cases. But the more expensive ones are practically just smaller PCs.

Just because desktop or laptop or notebook sales might decline while table sales increase, that doesn’t equal declining personal computer sales, just a shift in the platform for a portion of PC sales.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 5:58:51 AM PDT by Will88
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To: yldstrk
if pcs last like they should, people wouldn’t need to keep replacing them
PC replacement is not a reliability issue - rather - it's about upgrading to the latest technology.
11 posted on 04/14/2013 6:11:32 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind
Windows is dead.

Again.

This week.

Yada yada yada...

Call me when someone develops another OS that can replace the Windows OS family at the enterprise level. Until that happens it's going no where. No amount of shoe horned in to full corporate operation Ipads or trying to use Google whatever is going to change that.

And yes I use my Ipad that way now, and its not bad, but...

12 posted on 04/14/2013 6:18:19 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something *is* going on, the author’s protestations to the contrary. PC’s running windows are being hit by the perfect storm of phones, tablets, windows8, lack of a technological imperative to upgrade, the cloud, virtual computing, the list goes on and on. Hard to imagine the market ever recovering to what it has been absent some other game changing event or events.


13 posted on 04/14/2013 6:20:54 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: oh8eleven

And that’s one of the “problems”. The limiting factor on most people’s computer is no longer the processor or storage, but rather the bandwidth of the internet connection. It’s like being able to upgrade to a car which can go 200 mph, but still being stuck on 65 mph roads. Why spend the money?


14 posted on 04/14/2013 6:23:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I bought the latest iPad back in November not to replace my windows laptop but for other purposes. I found myself rarely going back to use the laptop and did only to retrieve files that were on it.

Each time I’d get back on my laptop it would frustrate me to no end.
I WILL NEVER purchase another windows based PC ever. Bill Gates can kiss my a$$!

I know it will cost at least twice as much but my next PC will be a MAC.


15 posted on 04/14/2013 6:31:17 AM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: umgud

I use a database that automatically works with Windows 8 like a dream. Invoices should be simple, that doesn’t seem right. I’m not a the one programming this stuff, so what do I know.

Money is money, you gotta do what they want..


16 posted on 04/14/2013 6:38:12 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: KarlInOhio
It’s like being able to upgrade to a car which can go 200 mph, but still being stuck on 65 mph roads. Why spend the money?
Because you can always find another road (i.e. ISP) where you can go 200 mph.
17 posted on 04/14/2013 6:44:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: varmintman
The idea of wanting to make a PC somehow or other work like a tablet or gadget (Windows 8) is basically idiotic.

Why would that be?

But, you have your PC/tablet/Windows concept backwards.

The idea is to have a tablet that is capable of handling Windows 8, and from what's been coming out to the marketplace, it's being done quite well, by several different makers.

Sales may be lackluster, but the form-factor works quite well, and even better than any other tablet on the market right now. Battery life might be the only area where the Windows 8 (not the Windows 8 RT) tablets suck, but that too will be improved, perhaps within the year.

There are many millions of people eager to get one device which can work as the "traditional" tablet, and that can also server as a full-blown PC. Storage and screen size might be lacking, but it's what people have been migrating to in the last few years.

Fact is that, even the feature-limited tablets, like the Androids and the iPads, will be getting more PC-like features, with more memory and more ports, and better connectivity. So, the tablet-PC might be ahead of its time, considering that, the other tablets will be gaining more PC-like capabilities in the short and distant future.
18 posted on 04/14/2013 6:57:21 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: diverteach
Each time I’d get back on my laptop it would frustrate me to no end. I WILL NEVER purchase another windows based PC ever. Bill Gates can kiss my a$$! I know it will cost at least twice as much but my next PC will be a MAC.

Funny how different people have different experiences with the same things. I am writing this on my iPad, which is great for certain things but not for others. I use PC's a lot at home & work, like my win 7 AND my win 8 machines. I have a macbook that I use for a few specific things, but every time I try to use it for things I normally do on a PC I am frustrated to no end. At this time there is NO way I'd adopt a Mac as my main tech device.

19 posted on 04/14/2013 6:58:36 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember the toll road debate here in Houston.

The governor’s (paid) friends on this site kept telling me that soon every highway (and street) for that matter will be a toll road, so get with it, stop trying to live in the past. Beyond that, they will be privately owned and unregulated (i.e., charging at least 30 cents per mile). That was a decade ago - and yes there are a couple of new toll highways (as well as new freeways), and some new toll lanes on existing highways (as well as new free lanes), but no - the Interstates in Texas still don’t have tolls, and the talk of that crap is went out the door when the Governor needed to get re-elected in 2010.

Until Windows 8, I’ve been a defender of Microsoft’s OS’s. But this was sickening. People don’t buy a computer because it has Windows, they buy a computer in spite of Windows. And while Windows isn’t great, it works good enough and we got used to it. So now MS decides that they OWN us and can give us whatever crap they want to dish out. Well sorry, but the customer is speaking now.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 7:04:40 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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