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NY school district apologizes for asking students to ‘argue Jews are evil’
examiner ^ | 4/13/2013 | BY: HOWARD PORTNOY

Posted on 04/13/2013 2:10:18 PM PDT by tobyhill

Try to imagine a high school tasking its students with making a logical argument to support the proposition that black people are evil. If you find that thought experiment too perverse even to imagine, substitute Jews for blacks, and there’s no need to use your imagination at all. It really happened, at a school in upstate New York.

The Epoch Times reports that Superintendent Marguerite Vanden Wyngaard of the Albany School District apologized Friday for a writing assignment that asked students to “argue Jews are evil” while making a persuasive argument blaming them for the problems of Nazi Germany.

Wyngaard said the essay was part of a series of exercises intended to help students hone their persuasive writing skills. The assignment, first reported by the Albany Times Union, asked students to research Nazi propaganda, then assume their teacher was a Nazi government official whom they had to convince of their loyalty by arguing persuasively that Jews are evil.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: albany; democrats; israel; newyork; waronterror

1 posted on 04/13/2013 2:10:18 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

THEY GOT CAUGHT.


2 posted on 04/13/2013 2:11:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: tobyhill

We’re sorry we got caught.


3 posted on 04/13/2013 2:11:12 PM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: tobyhill
They need to be fired.


4 posted on 04/13/2013 2:16:22 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: tobyhill

Absolutely disgusting disgusting. Why can’t they teach these kids right? Everyone knows it’s liberals who are evil.


5 posted on 04/13/2013 2:16:49 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: tobyhill
Nazi government official whom they had to convince of their loyalty by arguing persuasively that Jews are evil.

This will be good practice if the marxists complete their takeover of this country and students have to convince government official of their loyalty by arguing persuasively that conservative Americans are evil.

6 posted on 04/13/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: darkwing104

>> They need to be fired.

As in oven?


7 posted on 04/13/2013 2:20:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: tobyhill

Government schools are child abuse.


8 posted on 04/13/2013 2:23:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: tobyhill

9 posted on 04/13/2013 2:24:48 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: tobyhill

An enterprising young Christian student might have written a very thoughtful paper on “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God”, and proven that Jews are quite evil in the sight of an all holy God. And then showed, according to God, that “None are righteous, no not one”, showing that the gentiles are just as bad.

I am sure that that teachers head would have exploded right there in front of the classroom.

It would have been a very worthy “F”.


10 posted on 04/13/2013 2:28:20 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: jimbo123

Why would anyone doubt it. Her role models did that and worse.


11 posted on 04/13/2013 2:28:50 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tobyhill
"The assignment, first reported by the Albany Times Union, asked students to research Nazi propaganda, then assume their teacher was a Nazi government official..."

The teacher should be asked to research the outcome of the Nuremberg Trials, then assume the School Board is the Allied Military Tribunal...

12 posted on 04/13/2013 2:30:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This is the left’s plan to divide and conquer. We have far to many asphalt engineer’s in America. They sit on their ass and criticize this nation plus all who are for something good. They are for all that is evil from man laying with man ,to abortion, to spending our way out of debt. Since when did we hand Obama our nation’s checkbook without any controls?


13 posted on 04/13/2013 2:33:19 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: tobyhill

There are offenses so over-the-top that an apology is not only woefully inadequate, but actually adds to the insult by demonstrating that the offender is either insincere, or is completely clueless of the gravity of the situation. In this particular case it is no doubt the former.


14 posted on 04/13/2013 2:39:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: tobyhill
being a RAT means never having to suffer consequences for your actions...
15 posted on 04/13/2013 2:40:09 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jimbo123

Good find. Now that we know what she looks like I’m inclined to wonder if she ever considered having the students argue “slavery was justified.”


16 posted on 04/13/2013 2:46:38 PM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: jimbo123

More proof that the biggest anti-Semites in this country reside in the Democratic Party.


17 posted on 04/13/2013 3:05:32 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Chode

I just heard on ABC radio news that a teacher is being reprimanded for having her students write “I want to die in a fire” as punishment for misbehaving in a fire drill. Obviously having your students argue why jews are the problem doesn’t rise to the level required to be reported on nationally syndicated radio news.


18 posted on 04/13/2013 3:07:47 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: dowcaet

Blacks comprise one of the largest groups of anti-semites in the US. It stems from nearly a century of communist propaganda aimed specifically at the black community.


19 posted on 04/13/2013 3:11:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: oldbrowser
This will be good practice if the marxists complete their takeover of this country and students have to convince government official of their loyalty by arguing persuasively that conservative Americans are evil.

I think they are really close to completing a Marxist takeover, and I think it might take 60 or 70 years to turn it around, similar to the Soviet Union. The constant drumbeat of communist propaganda, has been quite successful, at getting Americans to hate their own freedoms and rights. Look how many people hate free speech, and the 2nd amendment, and conservatives too. I am so cynical of the rats, I believe most of them would love to see conservatives murdered in huge numbers, and they would sleep peacefully. I am battling the desire to hate these slime sucking scum bags, but I am losing that battle.

20 posted on 04/13/2013 3:31:59 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines)
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To: jimbo123
Another picture of her, which I am posting only to point out the ironic button she is wearing.

No hate button

21 posted on 04/13/2013 3:36:11 PM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: tobyhill

Amazing

Given Monsey....Monroe.....even Manhattan


22 posted on 04/13/2013 3:38:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

Yet another inadequate, biased, liberal, thoughtless, hating “educator”. What next?...more of the same.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 3:48:01 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

They’re not going to do that, not ever, ever, ever! They are doing exactly what they always intended to do, these things happening in government indoctrination centers all over this country are not happening accidentally!

If I somehow got the chance to speak to the entire nation but could only say one thing, it would be this-do NOT give your children to the government indoctrination centers!

Actually, it’s too late for that, because more than one generation has already been turned to the dark side en masse by government indoctrination centers and are lost for good-so I’d say instead-do NOT allow your weapons to be confiscated no matter what, under any circumstances!

Lule 12:49-53
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.


24 posted on 04/13/2013 3:52:19 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: tobyhill

How about making a case union teachers are evil? That might be fun to discuss...


25 posted on 04/13/2013 3:55:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: SJackson; Nathan

ping


26 posted on 04/13/2013 3:56:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: tobyhill

Ummm, as a Jew, this sounds like a reasonable exercise. Hasn’t anyone here on FR been involved in debating? Propositions such as these are par for the course.

Oh well. Just more dummying-down I guess. Heil Correctness!


27 posted on 04/13/2013 3:59:57 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

Apology not accepted! Now lets see some heads roll!


28 posted on 04/13/2013 4:01:29 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Well, Jesus was a Jew - and the Virgin Mary. Joseph - Jesus’s earthly father - another Jew... Seems the Bible’s full of people who are Jewish... Maybe the teacher - being an idiot - was unaware of that...


29 posted on 04/13/2013 4:13:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Conserev1

Nope! This is a doofus job; the sort of stuff Abe Foxman loves to bitch about. It has no bearing whatsoever on anything important. For centuries before all this PC crap kids debated all sorts of contrarian stuff. Our willingness to go hog-wild and take offense is just a symptom of the degree to which we have been pansified, emasculated, and weenied-down by the sensitive new age liberal elite. Screw ‘em. I’ve read Mein Kampf. Doesn’t scare me a bit. That means I can present an effective counterargument instead of being a whining bitch controlled by media and government.


30 posted on 04/13/2013 4:14:03 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

>>>Ummm, as a Jew, this sounds like a reasonable exercise. Hasn’t anyone here on FR been involved in debating? Propositions such as these are par for the course.

Oh well. Just more dummying-down I guess. Heil Correctness!<<<

Ummmm...as a Jew who teaches English at a local high school... your concept of reasonable and mine are miles apart.

A teacher looking at the ideology of the National Socialists might want to ask students something like this: “Describe the ideological beliefs of the National Socialists, focusing on their attitudes towards Jews and how those attitudes changed over time.” The teacher should be able to determine whether or not the student understands the subject.

If the teacher wanted, a follow-up question might be: “Evaluate the moral and ethical consequences of the attitudes towards the Jews among the National Socialist.” Of course, this presupposes that the students have been taught something about moral and ethical understanding. It happens in my room, and among some of my colleagues, too. Maybe it’s an Alaskan thing.

I’m really sure as someone who sits in a room filled with teenagers for several hours each week that asking one of them to role-play the evilness of a Jew would frighten, scare, or shock some of them, especially if we had already seen photos of the concentration camps. More to the point, the prompt “argue Jews are evil” is simpleminded and vague.

This teacher is the poster child for the elimination of tenure and privatization. Sadly, I’ve worked with a few like this. God help us.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 4:36:32 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: SpaceBar
guess not, just damn...
32 posted on 04/13/2013 5:00:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tobyhill

Jews,Christian,Whites,and conservatives of all races are on the leftist reeducation camp dream/cream list. Does any one doubt that once the population is disarmed and these people are in power there is any doubt what direction the restructuring of the new United Socialist States of America is going to take?


33 posted on 04/13/2013 5:16:02 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: tobyhill

What the lesson taught was how to lie through your teeth.


34 posted on 04/13/2013 5:17:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: golux

I agree. It is important that children are taught to consider things from all points of view. I once had an uncomfortable moment in the 1980’s in a university political science class. We were discussing WWII. The professor was very marxist. I posed the sincere question: what would our world be like today if Hitler had won? It’s obvious from history that Hitler winning was a distinct possibility. I thought it would be useful to explore the idea. I was immediately shut down.....apparently because the other students believed that because I posed that question I was sympathetic to the idea. I was not. I think we do ourselves a great disservice when we refuse to consider that what WE want may not happen, and that considering a fallback position is just common sense.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 5:33:46 PM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: golux

I don’t know how THAT lesson was framed, but I’m with you - I could make a very worthwhile lesson out of that assignment. Followed by an assignment to identify and discuss analogous arguments going on in the world today.


36 posted on 04/13/2013 6:45:21 PM PDT by Glenmore
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To: Glenmore
She and her wide ass are on leave. She is being paid and being NEA she will be eating her bag of Lays a day in comfort knowing this will go know were.
37 posted on 04/13/2013 7:36:36 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: redpoll

I don’t know, buddy. We had all sorts of fun with this sort of thing. It does sound like a crappy way to pose something like - “Jews are bad for society” or “Jews are Evil” - but it sounds like a seriously heavy and fun debate topic, up there with

Pirates Vs. Ninjas
Superheroes should be banned.
Do vampires get AIDS from sucking infected blood?
And one I’d love to debate:
Is Obama the Antichrist?

Actually I seem to remember posing the topic
Who crucified Jesus - Jews or Romans

and it was a hit.

Problem is, without a Jew around it is kinda creepy - like a bunch of white kids debating

Slavery in hindsight: good or bad for the blacks?

Or a bunch of Latinos debating:

La Raza: is it time to take back America illegally?

Oh wait.


38 posted on 04/14/2013 5:50:12 AM PDT by golux
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39 posted on 04/14/2013 6:24:58 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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