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Boehner: I Don't Need GOP to Pass Gun Law...
breitbart ^ | 4/11/13 | b shapiro

Posted on 04/13/2013 6:34:26 AM PDT by bestintxas

On Thursday, in the midst of ongoing national debate over prospective gun control and comprehensive immigration legislation, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that he didn’t need the approval of a majority of his own party to move forward with legislation. Referring to the so-called Hastert Rule, named after former House Speaker Denny Hastert (R-IL), which dictated that House leadership not bring up any bill for a vote without the support of a majority of the majority party, Boehner said, “Listen: It was never a rule to begin with.”

Then, realizing the gravity of admitting that he could move without a majority of his own party, Boehner added, “And certainly my prerogative – my intention is to always pass bills with strong Republican support.”

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We will lose the House bigtime if we continue with thie rotgut at the top.

Why does any group select a leader who openly and blantantly defy the wishes of the group he supposesly represents?

He is a curse on the GOP

1 posted on 04/13/2013 6:34:26 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

I think he’s brain damaged......


2 posted on 04/13/2013 6:35:32 AM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: bestintxas

Et tu, Brute?


3 posted on 04/13/2013 6:36:33 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: bestintxas

When the GOP calls asking for money, tell them not only are they not getting cash,but they aren’t getting your vote any longer as long as the progressive wing of the party is running things.


4 posted on 04/13/2013 6:36:48 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: bestintxas

We are headed for a majority Democrat House in 2014. It would not surprise me if Boehner makes some kind a deal with Democrats to exit his post in lavish remuneration of the undisclosed kind.

He is a traitor like so many other Senators and Congressmen - all powerati RINOs content even in second-tier power.


5 posted on 04/13/2013 6:37:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bestintxas

Why doesn’t he just go ahead any change his party affiliation and stop trying to hide behind declaring himself Republican?


6 posted on 04/13/2013 6:37:34 AM PDT by alabama_heart
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To: bestintxas
I don't care what laws they pass in DC. I won't comply with unconstitutional or stupid laws.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/13/2013 6:39:11 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bestintxas

Boehner has been the problem since the day the Repubs took back the HOUSE! Cantor and his henchmen need to go too!


8 posted on 04/13/2013 6:39:37 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Sick of spineless Republicans!)
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To: bestintxas

Something very insidious is going on in DC right now, folks. People who swore and oath to uphold and defend our Constitution are blatantly and outright abrogating their responsibilities to do so.

It’s almost as if once you’re inside the beltway, you’ve already succumbed to the siren’s song. There’s really no way for you to make it out of the district with your soul. Your ship will be scuttled on the rocks, and you will be left to wither in the sun.

I’m personally beginning to wonder if the political class, those with the money and the power to campaign and make it into DC, were on the take from the beginning, since before the elections, and they knew once they were in, and once they could safely take off their masks, they become the ghouls they truly are.

Like the Democrats (Socialists, if we’re being honest), the Republicans are tempted by the fruit of the power tree. They see now that if they could just pass this one gun control bill, they could get started on disassembling the Second Amendment altogether.

Once they start, folks, it’s game over. The time for the soapbox and the ballot box is over.

The Republicans have tasted the power. They have sampled the goodness of the Soros power structure. They’re bombarded on all sides by temptation, and they’re too weak to give it up. They don’t want to lose power now that they have. They have succumbed to the devil’s wiles.


9 posted on 04/13/2013 6:40:05 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SCHROLL

We are long past the time when that will be effective.

The tea partiers in the House need to revolt against Boner’s leadership, make clear to him that he can’t govern without their support and call his bluff about him being able to destroy them.

He can’t destroy them without destroying himself—he depends on scaring them into submission.

Call his damn bluff.


10 posted on 04/13/2013 6:41:25 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: bestintxas

John Boehner, Benedict Arnold.


11 posted on 04/13/2013 6:42:00 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: fwdude
Makes me want a word even stronger than LOATHE. And, I might add, predicted and explained HERE:
12 posted on 04/13/2013 6:42:55 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: bestintxas
Hopefully, this will be the nail in the coffin
for any conservative on the sidelines against the GOP
which is a front for Romney, Soros, and the DNC.


13 posted on 04/13/2013 6:43:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: bestintxas

I can’t help bit feel this is all our fault. We keep electing these people out of fear that we will lose to the democrats. We always lose either way. Incumbents must go! It will hurt for awhile, but they rewards will be worth the pain. Either that, or term limits. I’m done complaining and I’m ready to clean house.


14 posted on 04/13/2013 6:44:48 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: bestintxas

We don’t need to pass another gun law - ANY gun law.

Just enforce the ones already on the books. And rather than any ordinance about ordnance, rigorously prosecute ANYONE who uses sidearms in a criminal enterprise with an addition severity as compared with other forms of perpetuation of acts of crime. No plea-bargaining, no exceptions, no mercy, no parole. Only genuine self-defense shall be accepted as a defense.


15 posted on 04/13/2013 6:44:58 AM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: bestintxas

About 13 Republicans could have stopped this kind of insanity on in early January, but, in typical Republican fashion, they folded and helped reelect Boehner as Speaker.

Boehner is sounding like GWBush the morning after the 2006 election when he ‘finally got a Congress he could work with’.


16 posted on 04/13/2013 6:45:45 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: bestintxas

I think the headline is a little bit misleading. He’s saying he doesn’t have to have support from a majority of his caucus to bring a bill to a vote. That’s quite different from “passing” the bill. While I don’t trust him at all, if he knows the bill will fail, it might be politically prudent to bring it to a vote. Only if he knows what will happen.


17 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: rarestia

I have long since decided that I cannot and will not give aid and comfort to our Enemies, the Establishment Elites in the GOP.

Any financial support that I give goes directly to honest Conservative candidates that I can trust. TED CRUZ is just one that I support. He is the measure by which I measure others.


18 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:03 AM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Houghton M.

boner knows hagel’s voting machines will save him in a primary?


19 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:26 AM PDT by stickywillie (how come there's no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: bestintxas

I know talk of a third party drives some folks crazy, but seriously.....as of now we have now we have no second party.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:52 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: bestintxas
Why does any group select a leader who openly and blantantly defy the wishes of the group he supposesly represents?
Occam's Razor would indicate he's not defying their wishes.

It's possible he's doing exactly what the members want him to....take the flak and allow the rest of them to maintain their conservative bona fides. That way they can loudly protest any non-conservative legislation then admit (oh so reluctantly) that they're powerless to stop anything.

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players

- William Shakespeare

21 posted on 04/13/2013 6:47:16 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: bestintxas

The Democrat-RINO Coalition


22 posted on 04/13/2013 6:47:38 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gaffer

I think it is so cute that so many people still think there is a political solution to our current situation. It is Summer of 1939 and September is a comin’. Prepare accordingly.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 6:48:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Howie66

The problem is that WE are the government, but our Representatives, those we supposedly elected to maintain our Constitutional Republic, are turning coat and destroying it in the name of money and power.

We’ve given them too much money, power, and blood. It really is time for us to take our country back or die at the hands of bureaucrats.


24 posted on 04/13/2013 6:48:25 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Houghton M.

Ideally, I’d prefer the Tea Party Caucus tell Boehner and the rest of the so called leadership to step down or they’ll leave the party and turn the whole shooting match over to Pelosi. The GOP isn’t the party of Reagan any longer and until they figure out that’s why they’re losing elections I can’t support it any longer.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 6:49:17 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: bestintxas

You got that right!

I called on my rep (Pete Olson - TX 22) to vote against retaining Boehner as Speaker in January. Olson chose to vote against my wishes. As a result, Olson will no longer get my support at all and I am working to see to it that he is defeated in the 2014 primary race.

“You are either with us, or you are against us” is my rule.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 6:50:07 AM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: rarestia

Something very insidious is going on in DC right now, folks. People who swore and oath to uphold and defend our Constitution are blatantly and outright abrogating their responsibilities to do so.


FWIW, I believe that both parties were in on Obama stealing the last election. And I believe it is because they pretty much knew that if Obama lost our cities would burn, possibly followed by anarchical civil war. They whole country was like an open gas can and we were playing with matches.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 6:50:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bestintxas

I am still dumbfounded about how he recently got re-elected as House Speaker. We need the roll call of votes and get rid of those responsible for propping up this traitor. Heads need to roll people.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 6:51:07 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: rarestia

That’s right.

I believe that our Forefathers were correct when they warned us about our government getting to the point where they no longer bend to the Will of The People.

Perhaps it is time for US to cast this government aside.


29 posted on 04/13/2013 6:52:46 AM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: stickywillie

I’m not talking about overthrowing Boehner in his congressional election.

I’m talking about a revolt against his House leadership position. Call his bluff. He needs the Tea Party congressmen. He intimidates them by telling them to go along with his crap or face his wrath (committee memberships and all the other perks he controls as Speaker). Call his bluff. Threaten to unseat him as Speaker.

He can’t run the House if he alienates 20% of his caucus. He keeps them in line by telling them to go along to get along. They have a veto-block, in the big picture. Use it to intimidate him back from the precipice.


30 posted on 04/13/2013 6:53:38 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: cuban leaf

Boo-freaking-hoo. The Liberals set themselves up for this catastrophe. Cities SHOULD burn if their electorate is so unstable as to be riotous. The armed citizen will be prepared to fight back an invasion of racists.

The theft of America will go down as the catalyst for the decline of everything for which this nation once stood, and that’s only if those who write the history are on our side.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 6:54:36 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SCHROLL

That’s exactly what I meant. Call his bluff. Tell him he stops screwing them over or they hand his speakership to Pelosi. He thinks they wouldn’t dare do it. Let him call their bluff and see what happens.

It could not be worse to have Pelosi back in charge than to have a Quisling in charge. We ARE getting screwed over right now.

Basically, it’s the Third Party nuke option and it’s time to deploy it. Boner’s had way too many chances to shape up.

Ship the bastard out.


32 posted on 04/13/2013 6:55:35 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: cuban leaf

The salvation of America is burning cities. Until the vermin are dead, they will continue the national destruction.


33 posted on 04/13/2013 6:55:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: bestintxas

He doesn’t need the R’s because he doesn’t advance any of the R party principles anyway.

(This guy is intelligent and could be a real HERO of the American people if he would only start doing his job ... Does he think he’s in that position to serve as a third-rate rubber stamp for the Obama Transformation of Amerika?)


34 posted on 04/13/2013 6:55:58 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: JRandomFreeper

I think we should apply your principle to ALL legislation that is blatantly unconstitutional.

Healthcare?

Gun bans?

Tax on Tea?

Massive non-compliance.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 6:57:37 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Gaffer

“We are headed for a majority Democrat House in 2014.”

Conserve your ammo.

I’m just sayin’


36 posted on 04/13/2013 6:57:57 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: bestintxas

The NRA and GOA could be a big help in removing Boehner.... no support from them until Boehner is ousted.


37 posted on 04/13/2013 7:00:07 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: bestintxas

This guy could be a genuine HERO to the American people if he’d just do his job. But, alas ... he prefers to be a third-rate rubber stamp for the Transformation of Amerika...


38 posted on 04/13/2013 7:05:15 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: bestintxas
There is too much strangeness going on to respond with a knee-jerk. Senate Repubs suddenly clearing the way for a Senate vote towards gun confiscation. Boehner's seemingly incomprehensible remarks suggesting he's ready for the House to pass a Senate gun-grab. Does not make any sense on face value.

I expect a blizzard of amendments in the Senate that make passage impossible. And as for 2014, the way the Repubs are proceeding puts every Dem on the record regarding gun-grabbing. The Dems play the long game. We should, too.

39 posted on 04/13/2013 7:05:51 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Diogenesis

40 posted on 04/13/2013 7:07:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bestintxas

Am I alone in thinking that Gun Control in the Senate and House is our version of the Reichstag Fire?


41 posted on 04/13/2013 7:07:57 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Howie66

“TED CRUZ is just one that I support. He is the measure by which I measure others.”

Amen to that. Seeing Ted in action in such a short time and his rise to the top of the libs’ hit list makes me angry we had all those wasted years in Texas with Kay Bailey’s worthless taking up a Senate seat


42 posted on 04/13/2013 7:08:25 AM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

Getting votes for Speakership is more to do with “what will this Speaker do for me personally”, moreso than “will this Speaker lead in the right direction”.

I am happy my Rep Louie Gohmert stood against Boehner, even if he stood alone.


43 posted on 04/13/2013 7:09:09 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: pabianice

I believe you are exactly on point. The Reps are trying to get the Dems on record as voting for more gun control. However, their success rate gives me great concern. The Dems are WWWAAAAYYY better at long ball.


44 posted on 04/13/2013 7:15:28 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: bestintxas

Though it obviously can’t legally happen, it would be grand to create a public petition that if John Boehner supports any gun control legislation so that it passes the House, that he be stripped of his US citizenship and deported, never again to be allowed entry to the US.

The purpose of the petition to demonstrate how seriously the people regard efforts to strip us of our civil rights. If he takes away our civil rights, he deserves none himself.


45 posted on 04/13/2013 7:21:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: bestintxas

It is painful to live in a country where no one gives a rat’s rear about any idea dear to me. Thinking people are now held like slaves to the unthinking and uncaring mob that makes up the majority of the US population. It, in turn, does the bidding of its media masters, who in turn do what the Democrat Parties orders.

And the GOP? The ones in Washington DC care far more about their ‘friends’ in DC than anyone in their home state. They prefer to be servants in the homes of their Democrat masters than live free anywhere else.

Boehner is a slave who loves his DC Masters. There is no hope for him, and little for the GOP.


46 posted on 04/13/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: rarestia

Well said.

For many like Boehner, its become like expecting King George to do the right thing on our behalf, VOLUNTARILY.

I do think if in 2014 the Conservatives gain more seats, Bonehead and his fiends will be turned out. Unless soros, buffett and that gang can figure out how to defy history, 2nd term Mid Terms most often go against the POTUS Party.

It would be sweet if a veto proof “conservative” GOP Congress was elected in 2014.


47 posted on 04/13/2013 7:27:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: The Working Man

Something very horrendous is about to start.


48 posted on 04/13/2013 7:30:18 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Houghton M.

I agree 100% and said as much after Obama was elected. Conservatives need to change their party affiliated and then causcus back with Republicans in order to have any chance of changing the direction in DC.


49 posted on 04/13/2013 7:31:19 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Houghton M.

Do you think Ohio will really toss him out? Some States might, but not OHIO, being on the rustbelt edge, too many like Boehner’s goodies.


50 posted on 04/13/2013 7:37:40 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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