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Lawmaker to investigate gun seizure ( Buffalo, NY )
WIVB ^ | 12 Apr 2013 | Eli George

Posted on 04/12/2013 11:18:27 PM PDT by george76

AMHERST, N.Y. - A state lawmaker is calling for an investigation into how an Amherst man's guns were taken away by mistake.

State Assemblyman Ray Walter says when he saw the news coverage of David Lewis' case, he knew immediately something was "seriously wrong." Walter wants some answers, when he meets face-to-face with the State Police Superintendent in Albany next Tuesday.

Lewis said, "It's been very embarrassing. I feel like I've been let down, and my privacy's been invaded."

Lewis was forced to turn in his seven handguns and stripped of his pistol permit. After State Police in Albany identified him - instead of a different David Lewis in another county - as being too mentally ill to own them.

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Lewis' attorney, Jim Tresmond, suspects investigators are using the SAFE Act, to pry into confidential medical records.

"We hear that there's a special unit that's been created to peruse the HIPAA reports," Tresmond said.

Walter added, "Or else this was just a test case on the part of the Governor's office, to see how far we could push this law.

(Excerpt) Read more at wivb.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; albany; amherst; banglist; buffalo; davidlewis; election2014; election2016; guncontrol; jimtresmond; newyork; raywalter; safeact; secondamendament; secondamendment

1 posted on 04/12/2013 11:18:28 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

A special unit to investigate HIPAA records. Well isn’t that .....special.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 11:19:45 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: neverdem; marktwain

Ping


3 posted on 04/12/2013 11:20:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: The Mayor; neverdem

More here.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/210343/37/Lawmakers-Call-for-Probe-of-State-Police-After-Gun-Seizure-Snafu


4 posted on 04/12/2013 11:21:42 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

5 posted on 04/12/2013 11:24:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: george76

Thanks for the ping.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 11:26:33 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future.

Adolf Hitler, 1935


7 posted on 04/12/2013 11:32:30 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks for the ping.


8 posted on 04/12/2013 11:35:07 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: george76
"We hear that there's a special unit that's been created to peruse the HIPAA reports," Tresmond said.

How is that legal?

9 posted on 04/12/2013 11:44:34 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lurker
Are these the same law enforcement officials who often crash down the wrong door of the wrong address and strong arm the wrong people during a SWAT drill?

And the Airport Security who pats down granny in a wheelchair and lets the burka glide through?

I thought so.

10 posted on 04/12/2013 11:46:19 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: george76

Bogus quote making the rounds. Hitler benefited greatly from the gun control he inherited, but that quote was never said or written.

It’s ironic Hitler’s non-words, repeated often enough, became truth by means of propaganda.


11 posted on 04/12/2013 11:46:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Fishing HIPAA is not legal. Yet. But the law presently being considered in the Senate would legalize the practice. The guys in NY just jumped the gun a bit.


12 posted on 04/12/2013 11:49:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: george76

supposedly there are several people beign represented by the lawyer- but all we’re hearing abotu is this one man-


13 posted on 04/13/2013 12:02:00 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: george76

roh roh- We got caught beign naughty and violating people’s constitutioonal rights-, but don’t worry folks, we’ll investigate ourselves and let you know what we coem up with


14 posted on 04/13/2013 12:04:44 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Cyber Liberty

[[It’s ironic Hitler’s non-words, repeated often enough, became truth by means of propaganda.]]

Hmmm- seems thel eft was just makign crap up abotu romney beign a murderer, tax cheat etc and kept repeatign it day after day, and even our own dear leader kept repeatign FALSE crap day after day for nearly a month about benghazi, and now theirl ies are truth-

Irregardless of who said that abotu guns- the fact remains that socialists LIKE hitler strive to remove guns from peopel so that they can then lord over the peopel without fearign an uprising- Yuo can bet hitler GLADLY inherrited a gunless population and exploited that population’s vulnerabilites to the enth degree-


15 posted on 04/13/2013 12:08:17 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
Irregardless of who said that abotu guns- the fact remains that socialists LIKE hitler strive to remove guns from peopel so that they can then lord over the peopel without fearign an uprising- Yuo can bet hitler GLADLY inherrited a gunless population and exploited that population’s vulnerabilites to the enth degree-

I'm not sure I'd put it exactly like that, but I certainly agree with it. Hitler benefited greatly by having gun control already in place when he seized power. But it hurts our cause when liberals can say quotes we use in argument are in fact hoaxes.

16 posted on 04/13/2013 12:16:49 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: george76

Just the beginning of a rough ride for New York State.


17 posted on 04/13/2013 1:19:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cyber Liberty
But it hurts our cause when liberals can say quotes we use in argument are in fact hoaxes.

And we can use a liberal tactic and say, "Prove that Hitler never said that", regardless of the fact that you can't prove a negative, they use that canard all the time.

Piss on liberal illogical ideas.

18 posted on 04/13/2013 4:22:27 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
-- How is that legal? --

I don't see them claiming it's legal. On the contrary, they are claiming it is special!

19 posted on 04/13/2013 4:25:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CottShop
I think yorue dylcexis. Juts ym oppoinin.

8^)

20 posted on 04/13/2013 4:38:29 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: george76
The State Polizei knew exactly what they were doing! Don't believe this line of BS that they got the wrong guy by mistake! They meant to do this and didn't expect Lewis to lawyer up and the outcry from citizens. The State Polizei is acting as Cuomo's quislings! Listen to the following webcast from Tom Bauerle, WBEN radio:

Multiple sources: NY State has established clandestine unit to circumvent medical privacy and 4th Amendment to grab guns

BREAKING: Sources close to law enforcement have told me point-blank that Drama Queen Governor Andrew Cuomo's NY State Police are LYING about making a "mistake" in the case of the 35 year old Amherst man whose pistol permit was suspended and his weapons ordered surrendered to Amherst PD.

Keep reading...it gets worse.

The citizen involved was called MULTIPLE times on his PRIVATE phone numbers (including cell) by Sgt. Jackson of the NY State Police, according to sources.

In other words: The NY State Police did not make a "mistake." Contrary to their deceitful and prevaricating statement, they had exactly the person they wanted.

Of course the NY State Police brass and the political butt-lickers in Stetson's don't lie, right?

I'd suggest you read up on the attempted cover-up of the causes of death of the Attica Prison Riot hostages who died as the prison was retaken.

State Police tried to intimidate the Monroe County Medical Examiner and other ME's during autopsies by hovering over the autopsies in 1972. The goal? To tell the public that inmates killed the hostages during the retaking by cutting their throats. Guess what? They lied.

Returning to 2013: Informed individuals tell me that Cuomo's Gestapo were relentless in their contacts with Erie County officials.

State Police were shocked that the local man RETAINED COUNSEL, and by the national firestorm generated by my show which was picked up by Glenn Beck's site, Drudge and Rush.

And it gets WORSE: Within the past 12 hours, another even more sinister development took place in Albany.

Your constitutional rights are not safe in NYS. That is all I can say right now.

The seed that was planted today is SO dastardly that if even half of what I am hearing is correct, Drama Queen Governor Andrew Cuomo will be forced to resign and see his name added to the list of the most execrable political figures in NY history.

And for the record:

1. I have always, and always will support police in the performance of their constitutionally authorized duties, and will claim a grade of A+ in my support of cops for 30 years.

2. I have never been arrested or convicted of any offense whatsoever, and have not even been pulled over in 13 years and that was for a broken headlight.


21 posted on 04/13/2013 5:22:02 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: george76

Was not a mistake.
We now have a totalitarian government. They have access to medical records and are using them.
Why do you think they started medicare and the prescription drug program? So they would have easy access to the records.

The gov never gives something away. There is always a string. Always.

Meanwhile, violent criminals aren’t running down to their local police station to turn in their guns. And the authorities know this and are happy with it cuz they deliberately leave guns in the hands of criminals.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 5:29:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Gargantua

[[I think yorue dylcexis. Juts ym oppoinin.]]

FINALLY, a post I can rwead!


23 posted on 04/13/2013 8:36:15 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop; Gargantua
[[I think yorue dylcexis. Juts ym oppoinin.]]

FINALLY, a post I can rwead!

LOL.

5.56mm

24 posted on 04/13/2013 8:40:06 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: USS Alaska
And we can use a liberal tactic and say, "Prove that Hitler never said that", regardless of the fact that you can't prove a negative, they use that canard all the time.

If you do that, you move the argument from the rightness of your cause to an argument over minutia, and a liberal would be delighted to argue over the quote all day. I've seen them do it. End result: You lost the larger argument. Congratulations.

My point stands. Don't use bogus quotes. Is it that difficult?

25 posted on 04/13/2013 9:13:41 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It is also funny how Hitler has become the icon of government gun control, when in fact German citizens were allowed to own firearms under Hitler’s administration.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 11:22:06 AM PDT by Necrovore (Lu"gen offenbahren Kontrolle)
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To: Necrovore

Look up the definition of “citizen” in Nazi Germany. Hint: If you are not a Dem, you don’t qualify.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 2:10:22 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: george76
More from Tom Bauerle from WBEN, dissention among rank and file members of the NY State Police Union concerning the "SAFE" Act:

Tom Bauerle

Rebellion in the NY State Police PBA!

Numerous sources have come forward this weekend to tell me that rank and file members of the NY State Police PBA are outraged by "NY SAFE" and by UNION LEADERS who refuse to poll rank and file members regarding this onerous law.

I have been told by multiple sources that at least 90% of NY State Troopers are in deep opposition to "NY SAFE" and want THEIR union to issue a statement opposing this violation of our rights.

PBA leadership won't do this.

Union honchos have told troopers not to "rock the boat" during contract talks with NY State and want the rank and file to keep their pie holes shut about Drama Queen Cuomo's despotism and intent.

BUT numerous rank and file troopers have stated that they will gladly forego a pay hike to support the 2nd Amendment.

There is a movement in the NY State PBA to oust current leadership because NUMEROUS Troopers believe the union does not speak for them.

Also, I have been communicated with by State Trooper rank and file from Troop A (our area) and the Thruway (T-Troop) troopers from our area and across the state.

Their common themes to me?

1. Tom: the rank and file thanks you for what you are doing against NY SAFE.

2. Tom: we are scared of what is going on in NYS and the USA but we cannot talk openly. Thank you for having the courage to take on these powerful people.

3. Tom: we have your back and don't worry about the PBA leaders, brass or the Cuomo butt-kissing goose-steppers.

4. Tom: you are correct. Politically-oriented troopers would sell their own kids for a seat at the table of power, and are a small minority and everyone else on the job knows who they are.

I have talked about my own dissonance as a well-known and long-time supporter of law enforcement in the approach that has been forced upon me by illegal laws.

Friday, the dam broke and I have had more contacts with LEO's who are on our side.

I am honored that the rank and file troopers trust me, yet I am disturbed because they NO LONGER TRUST THE GOVERNMENT or their own UNION.

They know the powers ranged against me, they know how the game is played and they have pledged to support our freedom by leaking info and DOCUMENTS and by watching my back.

THANK YOU.

There are other developments: on the medical front.

I am hearing reports of subpoenas arriving at offices of mental health care providers.

FORGET 2016 ANDREW: I PREDICT YOU WILL RESIGN OR BE OUSTED FROM ALBANY WELL BEFORE, ALONG WITH DUFFY AND NYS POLICE SUPER D'AMICO.

Again, the following is a link to Tom's Friday radio show where he reports that NY State has established clandestine unit to circumvent medical privacy and 4th Amendment to grab guns. Take the time to listen to it (30 minutes) fellow Freepers!!!

Multimedia Feed for the Tom Bauerle Show

28 posted on 04/14/2013 11:26:55 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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