Posted on 04/11/2013 6:34:57 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
The Republican plan to block debate on Senate Bill 649, which requires background checks on almost all gun purchases and transfers, failed spectacularly Thursday morning when sixteen Republican Senators joined almost all of the Democrats to vote in favor opening debate on the bill. Among those voting to defeat the filibuster were 9 Democrats with “A” ratings from the National Rifle Association, and 12 A-rated Republicans (out of 16 Republican “ayes”). Two Democrats, Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR) and Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK), joined the majority of Republican Senators who tried to prevent debate, much less a vote, on the bill.
The plan to filibuster the gun reform measure was met with vocal resistance from some Republicans who, even if they disagree with the policy, felt it deserved debate and a straight up-or-down vote. Going into the vote, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he felt confident he had the 60 votes required to overcome a filibuster, but he wasn’t certain. As it turned out, it wasn’t even close. The effect of the Newtown parents’ lobbying efforts this week cannot be underestimated, and today’s vote could be a good omen for gun reform.
The Republicans who voted to debate the bill were Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN, NRA rating=A), Kelly Ayotte (R-NH, NRA rating=A), Richard Burr (R-NC, NRA rating=A), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA, NRA rating=A), Tom Coburn (R-OK, NRA rating=A), Susan Collins (R-ME, NRA rating=C+), Bob Corker (R-TN, NRA rating=A), Jeff Flake (R-AZ, NRA rating=A), Lindsey Graham (R-SC, NRA rating=A), Dean Heller (R-NV, NRA rating=A), John Hoeven (R-ND, NRA rating=A), Johnny Isakson (R-GA, NRA rating=A), Mark Kirk (R-IL, NRA rating=F), John McCain (R-AZ, NRA rating=B+), Pat Toomey (R-PA, NRA rating=A) and Roger Wicker (R-MS, NRA rating=A+).
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“21 traitors to the Constitution. I’ll do my part to see that pansy Graham gets defeated here in SC.”
Burr from NC voted to debate. Did he turn to the dark side after his dinner with Obama?
Meanwhile the bipartisan and loving Democrats in the Senate are blocking a vote to honor Margaret Thatcher.
so our house is closed and not a peep from the stupid party, then we pay for this house which is closed to us but they have concerts and then the stupid party lets some of the idiots go to a dinner and now it seems all it takes is a dinner ON OUR DIME to vote for this
THEY ARE
THEY;RE ACTUALLY BLOCKING A VOTE TO HONOR MAGGIE THATCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I frigging hate the SOB and their low info voters, I can’t even talk to these scum bags anymore.
We live in two different countries today but alas we have to put up with this crap because our reps have no balls
The Toomey-Manchin Kill The Bill of Rights Bill.TITLE ONE: GETTING ALL THE NAMES OF PROHIBITED PURCHASERS INTO THE BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM
Summary of Title I: This section improves background checks for firearms by strengthening the instant check system.
- Encourage states to provide all their available records to NICS by restricting federal funds to states who do not comply.
By "all their available records" just what records are they blackmailing states for with that statist bilge water? "All" is a pretty big word when only a very few records are applicable to denying someone their right to keep and bear arms.
- Allow dealers to voluntarily use the NICS database to run background checks on their prospective employees.
Does that means dealers can run NICS checks on prospective employees without their knowledge or consent? I have no idea what the word 'voluntarily' means there. Does it mean dealers will be allowed to not run NICS checks if they prefer not to?
- Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).
Submissions of mental health records? Since when has it been legal to deny any American their rights without due process? Isn't it required that a person be adjudicated mentally deficient by a court of law to do that? Mental health records are entirely irrelevant except to those court proceedings. This bill sounds like Stalinist purge material.
- Provides a legal process for a veteran to contest his/her placement in NICS when there is no basis for barring the right to own a firearm.
Is that an admission that the Bill of Rights doesn't cover veterans or an admission that it doesn't cover anyone anymore?
And just like that “.. shall not be infringed..” is reduced to a bumper sticker slogan..
apparently...he lied earlier...never heard him utter next to anything ever while a senator...probably couldn’t talk an hour if he had to and most likely has a bladder or prostate problem too...so couldn’t do his share in a filibuster...but next vote he is gonna get plenty of time to work on those things...maybe our new gov mccory here in nc will want the job of senator
And the worst part isn’t the background check. REad the section on transportation:
I’m no lawyer, but it seems like this section means that driving across state lines with your side arm holstered would be outlawed. Beyond that, the definition of transportation includes stopping for lodging. So if I stop in Ohio overnight on my way to NC, I can’t load my gun and have it in my room with me. It has to be unloaded, locked, and inaccessible. What does that have to do with shooting kids in a school. But oh, we need this bill to honor the memory of those Newtown kids. What a crock.
And it says that they need probable cause to arrest you for a violation of this law, but most state databases have a list of the CPL holders, so that would probably constitute probable cause for a search. And in any case if pulled over most states require a CPL holder to declare himself as such during a traffic stop, probably also enough to warrant a search.
Look at some of the crap in the senate gun COMPROMISE bill the republicans agreed on:
SEC. 128. INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION.
(a) In General.-Section 926A of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
“926A. Interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition
“(a) Definition.-In this section, the term ‘transport’-
“(1) includes staying in temporary lodging overnight, stopping for food, fuel, vehicle maintenance, an emergency, medical treatment, and any other activity incidental to the transport; and
“(2) does not include transportation-
“(A) with the intent to commit a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year that involves a firearm; or
“(B) with knowledge, or reasonable cause to believe, that a crime described in subparagraph (A) is to be committed in the course of, or arising from, the transportation.
“(b) Authorization.-Notwithstanding any provision of any law (including a rule or regulation) of a State or any political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by this chapter from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm or ammunition shall be entitled to-
“(1) transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the firearm to any other such place if, during the transportation-
“(A) the firearm is unloaded; and
“(B)(i) if the transportation is by motor vehicle-
“(I) the firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the motor vehicle; or
“(II) if the motor vehicle is without a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm is-
“(aa) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
“(bb) secured by a secure gun storage or safety device; or
“(ii) if the transportation is by other means, the firearm is in a locked container or secured by a secure gun storage or safety device; and
“(2) transport ammunition for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the ammunition, to any other such place if, during the transportation-
“(A) the ammunition is not loaded into a firearm; and
“(B)(i) if the transportation is by motor vehicle-
“(I) the ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the motor vehicle; or
“(II) if the motor vehicle is without a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the ammunition is in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
“(ii) if the transportation is by other means, the ammunition is in a locked container.
“(c) Limitation on Arrest Authority.-A person who is transporting a firearm or ammunition may not be-
“(1) arrested for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State, or any political subdivision thereof, relating to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms or ammunition, unless there is probable cause that the transportation is not in accordance with subsection (b); or
“(2) detained for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State, or any political subdivision thereof, relating to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms or ammunition, unless there is reasonable suspicion that the transportation is not in accordance with subsection (b).”.
(b) Technical and Conforming Amendment.-The table of sections for chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the item relating to section 926A and inserting the following:
“926A. Interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition.”.
What will the NRA rate the “sorry 21” after this vote?
Seig heil,! volks, this is the turning point where the FedMob takes complete control.
The figgin’ bill is called ‘Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act’.
That should tell you what Manchin and Toomey think, and where Second Amendment Right is placed.
Moot point—I think the NRA just learned they have absolutely no clout in DC anymore.
I’ve written both the NRA head office and my regional rep to explain to them that if they support any of these treasonous bastards in 2014, I will mail my endowment membership card to them and demand they never send me another communication.
This is a fscking travesty.
seems their power was not as strong as they thought....
these chumps better not be begging me for money because none of these senators will get a dime....
They don’t seem to care much for the 4th, 5th or 10th Amendments either. This opens the door to depriving citizens of all kinds of rights by simply fishing through their medical records. As JTHomes’ post reveals it also creates a legal precedent for significant restrictions on travel which will of course require checkpoints to enforce.
The NRA bootlickers will be along any minute now telling us how great the NRA is in protecting our rights. WRONG.
So will it pass the Senate and does it have a chance in the House?
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