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IRS claims it can read your e-mail without a warrant (Communism is here!)
cnet ^ | 4/10/2013 | by Declan McCullagh

Posted on 04/10/2013 2:29:12 PM PDT by tobyhill

The Internal Revenue Service doesn't believe it needs a search warrant to read your e-mail.

Newly disclosed documents prepared by IRS lawyers says that Americans enjoy "generally no privacy" in their e-mail, Facebook chats, Twitter direct messages, and similar online communications -- meaning that they can be perused without obtaining a search warrant signed by a judge.

That places the IRS at odds with a growing sentiment among many judges and legislators who believe that Americans' e-mail messages should be protected from warrantless search and seizure. They say e-mail should be protected by the same Fourth Amendment privacy standards that require search warrants for hard drives in someone's home, or a physical letter in a filing cabinet.

An IRS 2009 Search Warrant Handbook obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union argues that "emails and other transmissions generally lose their reasonable expectation of privacy and thus their Fourth Amendment protection once they have been sent from an individual's computer." The handbook was prepared by the Office of Chief Counsel for the Criminal Tax Division and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.cnet.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; 4thamendment; bigbrother; communism; email; govtabuse; irs; irsemail; irsfb; irssurveillance; nazistate; policestate; privacy; tyranny; waronliberty
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To: KC_Lion

blasphemer! the cake should smite you or cast you out or something.


41 posted on 04/10/2013 3:09:17 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
You know it to be true :)


42 posted on 04/10/2013 3:11:19 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: tobyhill

Applying the same reasoning to mail means they can just pick up your mail and open it and read it. Bull$h!t. If I send a letter to a friend, I have an expectation of privacy.

We are completely unaware of the depth of the totalitarianism we live in.


43 posted on 04/10/2013 3:11:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: KC_Lion

la la la la la...not listening to KC_Lion...la la la la la!


44 posted on 04/10/2013 3:17:07 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: GeronL

> Time for someone to devise an encrypted mail service.

There are some already out there but they are probably operated by the IRS.


45 posted on 04/10/2013 3:20:32 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Orangedog
Whatever you say >:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIT6irvxiL4


46 posted on 04/10/2013 3:20:40 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: tobyhill

Fine.

“Poisoned Fruit”

Illegally obtained evidence is not admissible in court.


47 posted on 04/10/2013 3:34:20 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: G Larry

I’m sorry but I don’t trust the courts to protect my Constitutional Rights.


48 posted on 04/10/2013 3:40:17 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

“The private life is dead, history has killed it.”


49 posted on 04/10/2013 3:41:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill

They keep being unreasonable.


50 posted on 04/10/2013 3:48:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nachum

Thanks very much for the ping, dearest you, Nachum.

I’ve always conducted my E-mail, as though the IRS were reading it and now I learn I was right all along.


51 posted on 04/10/2013 3:49:27 PM PDT by onyx
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To: tobyhill

Well, what do you expect from a society that does not uphold the laws? You can’t expect due process any longer. The fools that voted for Obama have ‘fundamentally transformed’ this nation.


52 posted on 04/10/2013 3:51:28 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: tobyhill

A public FB post or tweet is not the same as a private email between two parties.


53 posted on 04/10/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by matt04
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To: tobyhill

I would plead the 5th, when asked about content.

I would then point out that they have violated the 4th Ammendment by possessing the information they cite.

Then ask for dismissal.


54 posted on 04/10/2013 4:01:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: tobyhill

All my e-mails from here on out will say FU, and FU.


55 posted on 04/10/2013 4:01:41 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: tobyhill
Read my tag.

At the bottom of each email I send is this statement:

This pisses me off to no end. There's nothing in my emails worth scanning, it's the principle of it. We have certain unalienable rights and we are getting pounded by a bunch of Marxist bullies.
56 posted on 04/10/2013 4:02:50 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: matt04
“An IRS 2009 Search Warrant Handbook obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union argues that “emails and other transmissions generally lose their reasonable expectation of privacy and thus their Fourth Amendment protection once they have been sent from an individual’s computer.”
57 posted on 04/10/2013 4:07:55 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
http://hushmail.com/
58 posted on 04/10/2013 4:11:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: tobyhill

I’m not too hot on the E-Mail end, but FACEBOOK, sure - if some tax cheat is STUPID ENOUGH to brag about it on Facebook, then let them explain it to the “Men in Black”.


59 posted on 04/10/2013 4:22:17 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thank you.


60 posted on 04/10/2013 4:25:24 PM PDT by madison10
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