Posted on 04/10/2013 2:27:24 PM PDT by NYer
The Supreme Court is directly responsible for the killing of over forty million human lives. Its very doubtful that these people will be much troubled by a traditional definition of marriage.
No, marriage has never been “redefined” - however, the meaning of the term HAS been grossly perverted and horribly stained by America’s homosexuals.
Marriage is a union to protect procreation where the two become one. Procreation requires male and female complementary reproductive systems. Gay marriage is a fraud.
THAT’S GAYCIST!
All the appeals, pleas, rallies, demonstrations, exhortations, law review articles, amicus briefs, etc., calling on the Supreme Court not to redefine marriage, need not be considered at all, but can simply be by-passed and left aside. Marriage already has been redefined in nine states and the District of Columbia. The court does not even have to address all the other issues that has been raised. All that needs to be done is to extend the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex unions in those nine states and the District of Coumbia by invalidating the part of DOMA that currently excludes them from those benefits. Presumably the part of DOMA that guarantees that other states need not recognize same-sex unions defined as marriages by other states could even be left in place. If states truly have the authority to define marriage under the Constitution, then the states that have redefined it have acted in accordance with the authority they have, and nothing more needs to be said or done about it.
The unfortunate fact is that the States themselves have been compromised by liberals putting forth arguments that use "fairness" as a basis to extend marital rights and privileges to gays. Trying to counter that with substitution of Marriage with Civil Union, a area specifically assigned to government and not the church has failed in these states. The only way to save the institution of marriage is to remove it from government and that has not even been tried or lobbied for.
So........it's lost, because the institution of marriage was never defined properly in the first place when government began to regulate it, and government has since distorted and redefined it for their purposes, starting with the first marriage performed by a notary at some city hall. Which was really a civil union, but nobody ever made that argument or complained about the process. We should have, and Churches should have complained and differentiated the government civil union from the marriage performed by a Church, But it never happened or was never a argument that was acted on because of a lack of public support.
What Rush is saying, and this author is saying, is that in their view it is to late to do something that should have been done many, many decades ago. The fairness argument is now winning and it really has nothing to do with the institution of marriage and everything to do with government control of it.
I just barely skimmed the article and he's entitled to whatever his opinion is, but I have a hard time trusting the motives of anyone whose job was to spread government propaganda, regardless of which government it is.
The no fault divorce laws and the divorce industry did a lot more damage than you're giving the homosexuals credit for.
DOMA and Prop 8 could go down 8-1.
Why aren’t the supreme court rulings from the 1800s regarding Mormons and plural marriage defining it as one man and one woman being cited in the current gay marriage case?
Abraham and Sarah are BOTH laughing in heaven since God gave them the baby he promised. Even a seventy year old couple are more likely to have a child than two men who get it on.
Pat Robertson on gay marriageIn history there's never been a civilization ever in history that has embraced homosexuality and turned away from traditional fidelity, traditional marriage, traditional child-rearing, and has survived. There isn't one single civilization that has survived that openly embraced homosexuality. So you say, "what's going to happen to America?" Well if history is any guide, the same thing's going to happen to us.
Back in 1969, an Italian immigrant friend of mine, educated in classical history, assessed the American landscape and made an astounding pronoucement. He first noted the rise in the feminist movement. Citing historical records, he pointed to the Ancient civilizations of Rome and Greece, stating that in both instances, once women rose to power, they were soon followed by a rise in the homosexual movement after which they collapsed. He then said that, if this pattern were left unchecked, I would witness the collapse of the US in my lifetime. This was 1969! At the time, I laughed; I stopped laughing years ago as I have watched his pronouncement unfold.
But unfortunately our knowledge of history is not apparently enough to change our destiny as a civilization.
I respect those who refuse to accept this, and as we both know, this political fight is far from over but we are losing the battle. I nearly threw my son out on his butt last week because of this and other things that he has been conditioned to accept as fairness...
I told him....(age 25) that I had failed as a father to prevent the lefties from indoctrinating him. To be fair, I failed with all of them.
With all this nonsense about the fiscal cliff some weeks ago, I commented to my wife that the American society had already fallen over the real cliff. The falling does not hurt and is not seen or felt because we have not hit the bottom yet.
After the fires go out, I don't know what the future will be like....not anymore...all I can do is prepare for the fires. The ones that will be lit when the stuff hits the fan.
It’s because Democracy has a flaw.....It’s because liberals have exploited that flaw in spite of the fact that the country was founded as a republic.
It took a while, but they pulled it off...
You are correct. The homosexuals would not be able to do what they are doing if heterosexuals had not already watered down the meaning of marriage so. Hardly anybody gets married for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer, etc. anymore. And greedy lawyers and biased judges have had a field day. Add to that the Hollywood elite who either shun marriage altogether or make it a serial occurance that only lasts as long as the elaborate reception.
“Justice Kennedy is also the author of the notorious 1992 Planned Parenthood v. Casey Supreme Court decision which ruled that abortion on demand had to remain legal because, after all, people generally wanted it and needed it; and because, in Kennedys words, at the heart of liberty is the right to define ones own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”
Its statements like that which make me question the competent of the Federal Employees in black robes. For in the act of abortion you are not merely defining your own concept of existence and beginning of life. You are defining it for someone else whom you are deeming unworthy of life.
More over in the Federal Government’s intrusting they are depriving our states of the ability to protect people from being murdered. By forcing upon us a definition of life that excludes some of the most helpless among us.
Sexuality has been perverted just as much by heterosexuals who indulge in contraception.
Shorten that up a bit to:Everything is Relative
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