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NRA Fires Back: Gun rights group to oppose Manchin, Toomey background check bill
Washington Free Beacon ^ | April 10, 2013 | CJ Ciaramella

Posted on 04/10/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by xzins

The National Rifle Association will oppose the background check bill introduced by Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) and Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) Wednesday, the pro-Second Amendment group told the Free Beacon.

Manchin and Toomey held a press conference Wednesday morning announcing a bipartisan bill that would expand background checks for all commercial firearm sales, including gun shows and Internet sales.

The bill is the latest effort by the Senate to introduce background check legislation, after negotiations between Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) and Democrats broke down earlier this year.

Manchin’s office told BuzzFeed Wednesday that the senators had been talking with the NRA, but the Second Amendment group had thus far remained “neutral.”

“The NRA has not said either way,” Katie Longo, Manchin’s press secretary, told BuzzFeed. “The senators have been talking to the NRA, but they’re still neutral.”

A spokesman for the NRA said the report was “wrong.”

The NRA reiterated its opposition to expanded background checks in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon.

“Expanding background checks at gun shows will not prevent the next shooting, will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools,” the NRA said. “While the overwhelming rejection of President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg’s ‘universal’ background check agenda is a positive development, we have a broken mental health system that is not going to be fixed with more background checks at gun shows.

“The sad truth is that no background check would have prevented the tragedy in Newtown, Aurora or Tucson,” the NRA’s statement continued. “We need a serious and meaningful solution that addresses crime in cities like Chicago, addresses mental health deficiencies, while at the same time protecting the rights of those of us who are not a danger to anyone. President Obama should be as committed to dealing with the gang problem that is tormenting honest people in his hometown as he is to blaming law-abiding gun owners for the acts of psychopathic murderers.”


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“Expanding background checks at gun shows will not prevent the next shooting, will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools,” the NRA said.
1 posted on 04/10/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

MEMO to the NRA: In the past, you’ve ignorantly supported “pro gun” Democrats (as if such a thing were possible) like Reid and Manchin. So, are you ready to admit that this was a stoooopid flaccid attempt at faux bipartisanship now?

(crickets)


2 posted on 04/10/2013 10:39:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: xzins

So the NRA is going to oppose the bill, huh?

Are they also going to oppose Manchin and Toomey (and Reid, among others they’ve given money to) from here on out?


3 posted on 04/10/2013 10:39:25 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The NRA’s support 2 cycles ago of Harry Reid was insane, and we all knew it was insane.

That doesn’t mean, however, that they can’t acquire big boy pants and finally figure out what’s going on.

They are right about this.

No amount of background checks will keep creeps, demons, and ne’er-do-wells from injuring lives with various kinds of weapon.

Witness the knifings yesterday.


4 posted on 04/10/2013 10:43:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

News flash: King Obama’s communists empire is action, NRA is talk and hope. Getting real pissed that the only group winning is the communists Democrats.


5 posted on 04/10/2013 10:45:40 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Arm_Bears

Let’s hope they’ve learned their lesson. Despite that recent history, they still are right about this legislation and this compromise.

And for those of us conservatives who fought for Toomey, one who was so “staunchly conservative”, we again have our eyes opened about a GOP politician.


6 posted on 04/10/2013 10:46:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Hey NRA! You endorsed Rat Bastard Manchin. Twice. You gave Rat Bastard Manchin an "A" rating. Twice.

Got any comments on that?

Hmmmm?

7 posted on 04/10/2013 10:47:32 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: xzins
I hate to seem ignorant, but . . .
I'm as distrustful of government as anyone, but I am not clear on what makes these background checks dangerous.
I'm even willing to concede the point that it may not prevent any future havoc, "will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools," as the NRA puts it. Still, even if it's ineffective,what's the concern about it?
8 posted on 04/10/2013 10:47:45 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: xzins

Pat Toomey rode the TEA party coattail to come up with this legislation with Manchin (D-WV). That’s the real crime.


9 posted on 04/10/2013 10:47:59 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Logical me

The NRA is about action.

I think they’re regaining their edge.

They have done a stellar job in the battle for gun rights since the Sandy Hook incident became a means of manipulation by the socialists.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 10:48:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Excellent statement! In fact,, the NRA compromised with the socialist to pass the first mandatory background checks on firearms and provided support for the 1994 assault weapons ban through “compromising” with the socialist! The NRA’s support of the 1994 assault weapons ban brought about numerous other 2nd amendment protection organizations to counter the NRA’s sellout to the socialist.
11 posted on 04/10/2013 10:48:14 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Nevermore
Registration, confiscation.
12 posted on 04/10/2013 10:49:20 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Nevermore
Still, even if it's ineffective,what's the concern about it?

1) Where, in the Constitution, is the Congress authorized to require a background check prior to purchasing a firearm?

2) Where, in the Constitution, is the Congress authorized to keep records of who has purchased what firearms and when the purchases occurred?

3) Leftists keeping records of firearm purchases inevitable leads to leftists attempting to steal those firearms.

4) What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

13 posted on 04/10/2013 10:50:41 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: xzins

“The NRA’s support 2 cycles ago of Harry Reid was insane, and we all knew it was insane.”

Quid pro quo for a multimillion dollar shooting range on Federal land.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Nevermore

So, you aren’t arguing that pointless legislation is something we should just allow.

Therefore, it’s the matter of danger that you’re failing to see.

Checks require submitting names.

Submitted names can be compiled into a list.

The US Government wants a list of every gun owner in the nation.

Why?


15 posted on 04/10/2013 10:51:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Nevermore

Because it opens the door to gun registration is why...


16 posted on 04/10/2013 10:52:01 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: xzins
I just called 3 of toomey's offices and no one answers.

What a COWARD.

17 posted on 04/10/2013 10:53:33 AM PDT by Post5203 (Please name me a sucessfull city or country run by a "person of color".)
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To: xzins

Why doesn’t Speaker Bohener nip this in the bud and say that any gun control bill is DOA in the House, like Reid has done numerous time with budget bills ?


18 posted on 04/10/2013 10:54:55 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Got any comments on that?”

Like they say in the investments business, “Past performance does not guarantee future performance.”

The NRA’s ratings are given based on how legislators voted in the past. Manchin has a good history on gun rights, thus the A ratings. I fully expect his future rating to suffer from this.


19 posted on 04/10/2013 10:55:25 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: xzins
I keep hearing about the demand for gun control to prevent “felons” from acquiring firearms! Can someone please tell me which “felon” committed the tragedies in Newtown, Aurora or Tucson?

It does appear the socialist always use “felons” as a fall back push for more gun control because most gullible Americans will always support keeping firearms out of the hands of so called “felons” when in fact, the socialist are pushing legislation to prevent ownership, possession, and collection and eventual confiscation all firearms from “law abiding” Americans!!!!

Wake up America, they are coming for YOUR firearms, the use of “felons” has NOTHING to do with the latest gun control push and “Universal firearm Registry and Background checks” since “felons” cannot possess a firearm under current federal law!

20 posted on 04/10/2013 10:55:27 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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