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'Gang of Eight' to Oppose Any Amendments to Their 1,500-Page Amnesty Bill
Stand With Arizona ^ | 04-09-2013 | John Hill

Posted on 04/08/2013 8:53:31 PM PDT by montag813

Gang-of-8

Above: The Gang of Seven plus their mascot Marco Rubio, yucking it up as they announce their amnesty plan in January.

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by John Hill
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Just when you thought the Senate push for amnesty couldn't get any more shameful...it sets a fresh low

All the members of the “Gang of Eight” pushing so-called 'immigration reform' in the U.S. Senate will band together to block any efforts by other senators to offer amendments to their legislation once it is introduced, the Washington Post reported on Sunday.

In addition, the Post's David Nakamura reported that the forthcoming immigration bill "is expected to be around 1,500 pages long", and that the Gang of Eight “is trying to strike a deal in which all the members agree to oppose any amendments to the core provisions, even if they might agree with the amendments, people familiar with the talks said.”

“The group is concerned that if one provision is amended, the entire bill will fall apart because the deal is predicated on a comprehensive plan composed of carefully negotiated pieces,” Nakamura wrote.

So no public hearings, no amendments, and no transparency on a massive bill - another bill we have to "pass so we can find out what's in it". Sound familiar?

Meanwhile, Breitbart's Matthew Boyle reports that Sen. Marco Rubio is disputing WaPo's account:

In response to Nakamura’s article on Monday, Gang of Eight member Sen. Marco Rubio’s spokesman Alex Conant said that his description of the process being worked on is not correct. “The legislation that the eight senators are working on is only the start of the process; we expect several committee hearings, a full debate, and an open process for other senators to offer amendments.”
But as Stand With Arizona previously reported, Chairman Leahy will have none of it, and wants to rush through a bill as fast as he can once the bill is presented, betting that when push comes to shove, Rubio will get on board, lest he sees obstruction as jeopardizing his prospects for the 2016 Republican Presidential nomination.

SWA believes that the strategy of Senate Democrats is to muscle the bill through, and then put pressure on House Speaker John Boehner to permit a controversial floor vote on the bill - which could then pass with all Democrats voting for it and only a handful of Republicans - violating a longstanding precedent that Boehner has already tossed in the trash several times this year.

And Rubio looks more like a useful idiot for amnesty with each passing day.

Rubio spent all of January and February making the rounds of conservative talk shows and assuring grassroots activists that the "Gang of Eight" bill would contain "enforcement triggers" and "border security first" provisions, before any "path to citizenship" would be offered to illegal aliens.

But as soon as Rubio's assurances were uttered, his "Gang" ally, the slimy Chuck Schumer (D-NY), was dispelling them, first proclaiming that "we’re not using border security as an excuse or block to the path of citizenship"; and on Sunday pulling away Rubio's last fig leaf, declaring that "first, people will be legalized....Then, we will make sure the border is secure.”

In other words, this is an amnesty bill, plain and simple. And pay no attention to our stooge Marco Rubio, who we know will just fall in line rather than be left behind as we rush it through without any amendments or public hearings.

So it is all exposed, all the lies and deceptions. There is nothing left except one question, to Marco Rubio: "Why are you still in the 'Gang of Eight' and when will you be leaving?"

Rubio, Rubio wherefore art thou, Rubio?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bill; border; flake; gangof8; graham; illegals; immigration; jobs; johnhill; leahy; mccain; menendez; reform; rubio; schumer; security; senate; sessions; standwitharizonacom

1 posted on 04/08/2013 8:53:31 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

samefull.

Washington is broken and un-repairable. I fear it may take the blood of many country men to set it straight again.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 9:01:27 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: montag813
“And Rubio looks more like a useful idiot for amnesty with each passing day.”

As Florida's governor, Rubio blocked every GOP attempt to pass Arizona-style immigration enforcement laws.

Before Rubio arrived in the Senate, his chief-of-staff made at least two public speeches basically endorsing Obama’s Amnesty plan.

3 posted on 04/08/2013 9:05:19 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Rubio was not Florida’s governor.

That being said, I’ve no use for this man, and I do not trust him at all.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 9:10:22 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: zeestephen
Big Goof!

Rubio was never governor.

He was Speaker of the Florida House.

I was thinking about that doofuss Charlie Crist, who ran against Rubio for Senator.

5 posted on 04/08/2013 9:12:26 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: montag813

1500 pages. I suppose they’ll have to pass it in order to find out what’s in it.


6 posted on 04/08/2013 9:12:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: montag813

I don’t know who that grinning white haired guy is, but he sure looks happy reaching across the aisle there.


7 posted on 04/08/2013 9:12:44 PM PDT by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: zeestephen
As Florida's governor

When was that?

8 posted on 04/08/2013 9:13:09 PM PDT by digger48
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To: montag813

Looks like the ‘Gang of Eight’ are following Commie Obama’s fear of working with Congress.

The Congressional Bypass Commie ‘Deal’ by the ‘Gang of Eight” puts an indelible stain on The US Congress Regular Order.

The basic problem with ANY Immigration Bill, is that the US Federal Government has since 1986 refused to enforce the Federal laws that are already on the books.

Thus, the ‘Gang of Eight” are putting together a bill that will fail to stop the illegal aliens invading America.

What will not fail is the increased hostility of Americans toward illegal aliens who have invaded our Country from 1986 on.

“Amnesty, No!
Hostility, YE$$$$$$$$$$$$!”


9 posted on 04/08/2013 9:13:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: montag813
The gang rape of eight can go screw themselves, including M. Rubio for having anything to do with these slight of hand idiots behind closed doors and out site of the public at large in the first place!

Combine this socialist wet dream with the gun control wet dream and all hell will break out in 2014, let's hope we can hold the door to all this socialist legislation until the elections!

America cannot count on the RINO’s, our only hope is the filibuster from Cruz, Lee, and Paul!! Like it or not, these are the only true Americans who are willing to take a stand to protect and defend the American people's Constitution!! If this was such a great idea, why is it being constructed and written behind closed doors just like the social health care bill (obangocare) was? Because the gang rape of eight knows the American people by and large, are not buying any of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 posted on 04/08/2013 9:13:43 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: zeestephen
As Florida's governor, Rubio blocked every GOP attempt to pass Arizona-style immigration enforcement laws.

Rubio was Speaker of the FL House, not Governor. And he did indeed block E-Verify and advocated for in-state tuition for illegal aliens - just what one would expect from a Jeb bush acolyte.

11 posted on 04/08/2013 9:17:37 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
I've written everyone of them to ask that they include an amendment that all background checks done for "pathway" applications include cross checking voter registration roles.

While they are willing to forgive illegal entry, they should not allow a second crime of felony vote fraud to go unchecked.

None will acknowledge the idea - not even Rubio.

12 posted on 04/08/2013 9:20:39 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: PotatoChop

Rubio is the scariest of all. Always was to me. He might be ignorant and naïve, but whatever he’s selling, I am not buying. I can’t listen to him nor can I read what he has to say.

The worst part is that so many conservatives have or had an infatuation with him it was like tenth grader mentality. Frightening.


13 posted on 04/08/2013 9:20:43 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Baynative

I expect no representation from him. He has no credentials.


14 posted on 04/08/2013 9:22:12 PM PDT by stanne
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To: cableguymn

1-202-224-3121
Congressional Switchboard.
Time to Melt it again.


15 posted on 04/08/2013 9:25:16 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: montag813
1500 pages!

The buffoons are getting ready to stick it to us again. Big winners? Mexican nationals.

Hold on to your wallet. BOHICA!

16 posted on 04/08/2013 9:25:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: montag813

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Before it’s too late!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


17 posted on 04/08/2013 9:27:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: montag813

STAND WITH ARIZONA is slamming Rubio, and you can’t spell Rubio without RI(n)O, but why not slam their own senator?


18 posted on 04/08/2013 9:27:17 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: montag813
"And Rubio looks more like a useful idiot for amnesty with each passing day."

But, but how can this be?
Rubio is one Hannity's favorite "conservative" Senators.
(I guess blood is thicker than ideology and politics?)

19 posted on 04/08/2013 9:29:09 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Big winners? Mexican nationals.”

Presently pushing Texans around like they are the rulers. Shopkeepers, Church leaders, city officials all apologizing for not speaking Spanish.

Red state? Try red and green, before it goes blue


20 posted on 04/08/2013 9:29:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: zeestephen

All good, mistakes happen.

I have no use for or trust in any Florida republican, outside of LtCol West of course.

They seem to be a particularly slimy breed.


21 posted on 04/08/2013 9:32:20 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: StormEye

He’s Cuban. He has no allegiances. Not any apparent. He loves Durbin. He fibs to Levin et al about legalization v citizenship. What are his credentials?

Conservatives like him because he’s willing to say he’s conservative and run on the GOP ticket and he’s latino?

It’s going to take a whole lit more intelligence than that. Most don’t even know Cubans and Mexicans hate each other.

Angel pusses better wise up.


22 posted on 04/08/2013 9:33:13 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Oh, not that Cubans have no allegiances.

Geeze. Ted Cruz is Cuban. No, he’s American. He loves this country.


23 posted on 04/08/2013 9:34:51 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

The eight gangbangers are selling us out. Makes me wonder how much each one of them stands to make by shoving this down our throats. I’ll bet there are some big bucks changing hands here.


24 posted on 04/08/2013 9:37:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s a mystery how people can regard money so highly.

Well, it’s all through Shakespeare and he got it from the ancients. Their wives are either complicit and greedy, totally neglected and ignored or silly, but they sure are not doing their jobs advising them well in morality and ethics.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 9:42:44 PM PDT by stanne
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To: montag813

Maybe somehow this is a good thing. It gives sideliners an excuse to toss the bill outright. If we make as much noise as the last amnesty bill, sideliners will be forced to listen.


26 posted on 04/08/2013 9:52:15 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: montag813
All the members of the “Gang of Eight” pushing so-called 'immigration reform' in the U.S. Senate will band together to block any efforts by other senators to offer amendments to their legislation once it is introduced, the Washington Post reported on Sunday.

So no public hearings, no amendments, and no transparency on a massive bill - another bill we have to "pass so we can find out what's in it". Sound familiar?

So they're telling the "World's Greatest Deliberative Body" (more like the "Greatest Show on Earth") to STFU.

27 posted on 04/08/2013 9:53:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: montag813

Shouldn’t these 8 gangbangers be doing something about jobs and the economy for AMERICANS and stop spending so much time working on legislation for MEXICAN NATIONALS?


28 posted on 04/08/2013 10:08:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: montag813

The American Chamber of Commerce and public service unions:
“Our money is good. Pass it just the way we gave it to you!’


29 posted on 04/08/2013 10:40:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: cableguymn
Washington is broken and un-repairable.

It truly is a sad day when it seems like a nuke hitting D.C. would be the best thing that could happen for the survival of our nation as a society of free people.

30 posted on 04/08/2013 11:11:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: tumblindice

Our turn at internecine politburo feuds. These are Trotsky’s guys, who are much more fair and reasonable than Stalin’s guys.


31 posted on 04/08/2013 11:13:52 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: montag813

It takes 1,500 pages of fluff to crap an amnesty bill????

Kall me kuhrayzee....


32 posted on 04/09/2013 12:09:48 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: zeestephen

Awlright. I’ll defend you.

It’s easy to get confrused.

Crist, Crap or whatever his pretend Jesus name is, does have a better tan than Rubio...


33 posted on 04/09/2013 12:12:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: montag813

Who are the members of this “Gang of Eight?”


34 posted on 04/09/2013 12:55:41 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: montag813

Say goodnight, Marco.


35 posted on 04/09/2013 1:09:47 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: montag813

Rubio is no longer a viable presidential candidate for 2016 (not that I was ever a big fan).


36 posted on 04/09/2013 2:43:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: montag813

Any law that is longer than what can be read and understood by the average educated citizen in five minutes or less is an attempt to hide provisions detrimental to the public.


37 posted on 04/09/2013 4:55:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: montag813; Tennessee Nana; Liz; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...

I can just picture these fools in 10 years :”The Democrats lied to us, we never got enforcement” and you will get a bunch here repeating it.

By then illegals will be voting.

I dont see anyone in GOP threatening to filibuster ‘path to more Dem voters’, yet anyway.


38 posted on 04/09/2013 5:09:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: montag813

Great pic of Rubio with his buddies.


39 posted on 04/09/2013 5:10:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: montag813

Selling out Americans is funny business.....ay Rubio?


40 posted on 04/09/2013 5:12:19 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: MNDude
Hint.....he's got the yellowest teeth in Washington and they're indicative of the rot inside his head.
41 posted on 04/09/2013 5:14:12 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: montag813

Screw these people.

Gang of eight my ever expanding backside.

I will not comply.


42 posted on 04/09/2013 5:16:27 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: BuffaloJack
Any law that is longer than what can be read and understood by the average educated citizen in five minutes or less is an attempt to hide provisions detrimental to the public.

Well, not exactly, the SUMMARY at the end of the bill is what needs to be simple, reflective and concise.

I assume you are referring to a bill itself, an act...the actual pages of legislative language...

I would posit that every bill ever considered would not fit your parameters, for if it changes a word or adds a definition, or refers to an existing statute(s) it may change the language of ten or twenty pieces of text of the existing law-books. All of those "revisions" are required to be in the bill, making it many pages longer than the actual intent.

If you go to the back page of the bill and read the summary first (hopefully in less than five minutes) it should be fairly easy to understand. Then, if you want to pull your hair out, go back and dig into the actual confusing nuts and bolts of the bill.

Almost without fail, you will see "old language" struck-out much like happens here on FR, and the "new language" underlined. Pages and pages and pages of it.

43 posted on 04/09/2013 5:18:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: eccentric
Who are the members of this “Gang of Eight?”

Rubio (R) FL
McCain (R) - AZ
Lindsey Graham (R) - SC
Jeff Flake (R) - AZ...

With two AZ Republicans in the "gang", it's hard to see why they aren't making it more like the Arizona Immigration plan.

From the Dem side, it's Schumer - NY, Menendez - NJ, Durbin - ILL, and Bennett - CO

44 posted on 04/09/2013 5:19:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: cableguymn
it may take the blood of many country men to set it straight again.

I was thinking the city-men would be losing the most blood.

45 posted on 04/09/2013 5:21:40 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: sickoflibs

“’Gang of Eight’ to Oppose Any Amendments to Their 1,500-Page Amnesty Bill”

1,500 pages??? ‘You’ll have to pass it to find out what’s in it!’


46 posted on 04/09/2013 7:13:54 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: sickoflibs

What I find interesting is all the open border rino backers of FR who pushed McCain and trashed J.D. Hayworth along with all freepers who opposed McCain. Blood is on their hands.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2576232/posts


47 posted on 04/09/2013 7:21:53 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: montag813

1500 pages of DOA Amnesty.

it is dream act amnesty.
green card amnesty.
get out of line amnesty.
lines are for suckers amnesty
serial 30 plus family members too amnesty.

in short “we think voters are this stupid” illegal alien amnesty


48 posted on 04/09/2013 7:32:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stanne

I think it goes deeper than that. There is something going on that makes republicans uninterested in widespread vote fraud and the future ability to control elections that democrats will secure with amnesty.


49 posted on 04/09/2013 9:03:18 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Well yes, we in the country do have all the guns don’t we? ;)

15 years ago I moved 15 miles out of the city. 10 years ago I moved 10 miles past that, 5 years ago 10 more miles, last year 10 more..

The city and it’s BS keep creeping my way. Soon, I’ll just pack up and leave the state.


50 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:30 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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