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Furor Over Colorado Bill to Give Secret Service Agents Police Powers
The New American ^ | 6 APril 2013 | Bob Adelmann

Posted on 04/07/2013 6:48:13 AM PDT by CodeToad

Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper is expected to sign into law a bill that would give the U.S. Secret Service "limited" police power while operating in the state of Colorado. The bill, SB 13-013, which has already been passed by both the Colorado House and Senate, has sparked a firestorm of controversy because of fears that the proposed power could be used by Secret Service agents, acting on behalf of the Obama administration, to arrest sheriffs in Colorado who refuse to enforce unconstitutional federal gun controls.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: ameronazi; banglist; bloodoftyrants; colorado; cwiiping; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; hickenlooper; impeach; liberals; nazistate; policestate; secondamendment; secretservice; sheriff; tyranny
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1 posted on 04/07/2013 6:48:13 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

If they tried that in Alaska they would be arrested.

Alaska recently passed laws that Federal agents can and will be charged with felony charges if they come into Alaska trying to enforce particular federal firearms laws penned by Obama.


2 posted on 04/07/2013 6:51:24 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: MileHi; real saxophonist; coloradan

Sheez, I guess CO has been overrun with California liberals.


3 posted on 04/07/2013 6:55:21 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Pot loving gun grabber socialistic loyal supporting liberals, one must remember to place all the right labels on the idiots.


4 posted on 04/07/2013 6:57:31 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: dirtboy
Sheez, I guess CO has been overrun with California liberals.

You forgot the Chicago thug and his gang.

5 posted on 04/07/2013 6:58:44 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: CodeToad

My jaw dropping just hit and busted the keyboard.


6 posted on 04/07/2013 7:00:26 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: CodeToad

I know I’m not the first to comment on this, but I can’t think of, in all of human history, a greater blend of hubris, hypocrisy, and irony, than this administration’s stance that local LE have no place enforcing federal immigration laws, but threaten those who even suggest they will refuse to enforce federal firearms laws that have yet to be passed.


7 posted on 04/07/2013 7:00:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Eye of Unk

I have to believe this was all deliberate and by design. I know a handful of liberals who quit their jobs and moved to Colorado after the last election. I wonder if there was some super-secret communiqué that went out to American socialists asking that they relocate to Colorado to help collapse that state in the same way they did California.

/tinFoil


8 posted on 04/07/2013 7:00:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: CodeToad
Years ago, I was working my way though college driving taxicab in a mid sized Minnesota college town. Carter had just became president and named the local congresscritter Bob Bergland to be his Secretary of Agriculture so his VP Fritz Mondale was in town to stump for the jackass replacement in the special election. Secret Service was everywhere and it was painfully obvious where they were by the nice clean government cars parked in odd places around the major public streets.

I had a ball honking and waving and shouting "Welcome to Moorhead!" and watching them trying to slink down or even move their cars in reaction as my cab passed. They even called the cab dispatcher once to complain but she just told them we were a friendly town. We all had a good laugh because we knew they had no jurisdiction unless the VP was actually being threatened.

9 posted on 04/07/2013 7:03:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CodeToad

Ohhhh, so sheriffs must enforce federal law or face arrest? Hmmm, so i guess they can start arresting and deporting illegals aliens now too?


10 posted on 04/07/2013 7:06:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: CodeToad
does that mean they can shoot dogs now too???
11 posted on 04/07/2013 7:11:52 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: CodeToad

Sounds unconstitutional on its face.


12 posted on 04/07/2013 7:11:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: dirtboy

That’s mu guess too, Maybe they should change the name to Cholirafornia.


13 posted on 04/07/2013 7:13:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Without question it is unconstitutional and an attack by the liberals in both the State and federal governments. Our local Sheriffs have our total support. The Colorado Sheriffs Association recently put out a position paper against all these gun grabbing laws so their positions on the matter are well known. The liberals think they have the upper hand, which they do in the legislature, but they are facing fierce opposition in the public and with local elected officials.

Should anyone attack our Sheriffs they will find the support those Sheriffs have to be extremely hostile.


14 posted on 04/07/2013 7:15:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“hubris, hypocrisy, and irony, than this administration’s”

That’s them, but they haven’t faced much opposition so they are bolstered in their hubris.


15 posted on 04/07/2013 7:17:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: rarestia

“I wonder if there was some super-secret communiqué that went out to American socialists asking that they relocate to Colorado to help collapse that state in the same way they did California”

In a way that did happen. In about 1996, ACORN and others started a campaign from The People’s Republik of Boulder to start voter fraud to takeover Colorado. They haven’t stopped.


16 posted on 04/07/2013 7:19:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Travis McGee

CWII Ping.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 7:20:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CW2 Ping.

Who needs that pesky old Constitution, or local law enforcement anyway?

Just let the Feral Govt take care of us.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 7:26:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad
CWII Ping.

I guess not that far away.

19 posted on 04/07/2013 7:28:26 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Yep, getting to be a quick response to the ping these days, target dead ahead.


20 posted on 04/07/2013 7:29:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: rarestia

Setting the stage to move Moridoor on the Potomac there. Did they not invest a bunch of money on some super secret digs there. First you have to get the culture and politics to your liking then make the move. The smell must be getting pretty bad in D.C.


21 posted on 04/07/2013 7:38:24 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: Travis McGee

Unless this idiots eye brows are under his eyes he can’t see.


22 posted on 04/07/2013 7:42:58 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: CodeToad
Anybody read the actual bill?

In the first place, the Secret Service does have police powers throughout the U.S. to enforce federal laws, specifically those relating to financial crimes: currency counterfeiting, financial fraud, wire fraud, etc. Any expansion of those powers comes from Congress and not the governor of Colorado. In the second place, the legislation gives them the authority to respond to non-federal crimes committed in their presence, or non-federal crimes that have been committed when a Colorado law enforcement agency requests their assistance. This has nothing to do with arresting local sheriffs. If a local sheriff violates a federal law then the feds don't need permission to arrest them, and it likely wouldn't be the Secret Service who does the arresting.

23 posted on 04/07/2013 7:44:37 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: DeWalt

The Federal Center in Lakewood is the largest federal employee center outside of DC. It houses the alternate locations for Congress and many federal agencies in case DC is a goner. Much of it is underground and “super secret”.

Colorado is home to many federal and DoD facilities, not to mention missile, satellite, and nuclear weapons companies. More than a third of Colorado’s economy is federal money of some kind.


24 posted on 04/07/2013 7:46:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Back around 1985 I saw a bumper sticker in Cortez “Don’t Californicate Colorado”.

Apparently nobody paid attention.


25 posted on 04/07/2013 7:47:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 0.E.O

Um, you just made the point of the article. The ability to make arrests for non-federal crimes like State gun laws. The Governor has no one else to call on to make those arrests so they need a federal agency like the SS to be able to do so.


26 posted on 04/07/2013 7:48:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: DuncanWaring

These pinhead yuppies were too busy building the Stepford Wives never-ending-suburbs like Highlands Ranch to care about politics.


27 posted on 04/07/2013 7:50:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

If you think about it , would it not make sense to centralize so you can get a better grip on those pesky westerners. And it would put them dead in the middle of their FEMA regions. They are building their nest. Just have to get the environment right.


28 posted on 04/07/2013 7:54:27 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: DeWalt

“They are building their nest. Just have to get the environment right.”

Yep, we call it the Goldilocks treatment.


29 posted on 04/07/2013 7:58:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad
Um, you just made my point - people need to read the legislation. They can make an arrest only if they witness it happening or about to happen, or if asked to do so by a Colorado law enforcement official. You would no doubt find similar laws granting similar permissions to FBI agents, BATF agents, and other federal law enforcement officials.

And why wouldn't the Colorado authorities be enforcing state laws?

30 posted on 04/07/2013 8:01:10 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Vigilanteman
Back in the 70’s when the Russian Cosmonauts were in Texas to train for the joint US-USSR space mission, the Ruskies were taken to Bill Daniel's Plantation Ranch to see a Texas ranch.

Next to Plantation Ranch is Big Thicket Camp Park which was developed by a friend on mines family.

He and I got a cooler of beer and went up there to see if we could see the Ruskies.

We were outside the house which is just a few feet away from the fence line of Plantation Ranch.

We could see the whole bunch coming, they were in golf carts.

Right across the fence on the Plantation Ranch we noticed 2 Secret Service snipers had us in their cross-hairs.

My buddy and I were about half looped, so we started jacking around with them holding our beers up pointing at them to shoot the beer out of our hand.

They were starting to laugh so we pushed it a little further and put the beers on our heads.

They really started to laugh with that so I then held my beer in front of my buddies chest.

That did it, we took out the SS snipers. They had to sit down they were laughing so hard.

When the Ruskies came by we yelled to them to come have a beer with us. They wanted to come over but they wouldn't let them.

31 posted on 04/07/2013 8:02:56 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: All

Democrat Representative Claire Levy
Democrat Representative Rhonda Fields
Democrat Senator Morgan Carroll
Democrat Senator Evie Hudak
Democrat Representative Beth McCann
Democrat Senator Lois Tochtrop
Democrat Representative Jenise May
Democrat Representative Lois Court
Democrat Senator Rollie Heath
Democrat Senator Mary Hodge
Democrat Senator John Morse
Democrat Senator Jessie Ulibarri
Democrat Senator Irene Aguilar
Democrat Senator Lucia Guzman
Democrat Senator Angela Giron
Democrat Senator Gail Schwartz
Democrat Senator John Kefalas
Democrat Senator Jeanne Nicholson
Democrat Senator Matt Jones
Democrat Senator Cheri Jahn
Democrat Senator Andy Kerr
Democrat Senator Linda Newell
Democrat Senator Nancy Todd
Democrat Senator Pat Steadman
Democrat Senator Michael Johnston

Boot them ALL out!


32 posted on 04/07/2013 8:03:57 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: IMR 4350

LOL!! I could see that happening back then.
These days, however....


33 posted on 04/07/2013 8:06:03 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks CodeToad.
The bill, SB 13-013, which has already been passed by both the Colorado House and Senate, has sparked a firestorm of controversy because of fears that the proposed power could be used by Secret Service agents, acting on behalf of the Obama administration, to arrest sheriffs in Colorado who refuse to enforce unconstitutional federal gun controls.
Hollywood Limo Libs have bought this.


34 posted on 04/07/2013 8:07:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Eye of Unk

BVut Alaska does not have the underground complex for the oligarchs which is under the Denver Airport.


35 posted on 04/07/2013 8:12:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CodeToad

You might know the take over is close when they start busing in the ghetto trash for a buffer.


36 posted on 04/07/2013 8:13:55 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: DuncanWaring

In 1986 I saw a bumper sticker:

“Would the last American leaving California please bring the flag?”

Twenty-seven years ago I saw it.


37 posted on 04/07/2013 8:14:33 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Travis McGee
They Aren't Called the S.S. for nothing!

Or maybe at least the Praetorian Guard!!!

38 posted on 04/07/2013 8:19:17 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: IMR 4350

Great story.


39 posted on 04/07/2013 8:29:04 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: RandallFlagg

Different times.

What we did then would get you thrown in jail today.

Today the Secret service wouldn’t even allow them to go along a fence line of another property that hadn’t been secured.

In fact we were surprised they did it then, but Bill Daniels was driving the golf cart the Ruskies was in and probably didn’t tell anyone where he was going. He was just showing them around like he would anyone else.

When we yelled at the Ruskies to come have a beer, B Daniels stopped the golf cart and the Ruskies were climbing out looking for a way to get around the lake and come over. As far as B Daniels was concerned it was just “Welcome to Texas”. It was a bunch of other guys in suites that stopped them.


40 posted on 04/07/2013 8:29:34 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: elcid1970
In 1986 I saw a bumper sticker: “Would the last American leaving California please bring the flag?”

Damn. That's one helluva long exodus. I ripped my family and business out of there in 2005.

Funny thing is, I wasn't even aware of the conservative exodus out of California until I started getting the idea to relocate myself. One by one, friends of mine had begun selling their homes and packing off to other states, and it puzzled me.

I thought it was ridiculous, until a good buddy planted a for sale sign in his front yard. I asked him why on earth he would leave our home state, and he just looked at me as if to say, "Seriously?" After a few minutes talking about it, he said, "It's all over, bud. Our California is gone."

It was only then that I really pulled the veil off my eyes, and gave the real condition of my home state a good hard look. Once I did that, there was no turning back. We had to go.

41 posted on 04/07/2013 8:38:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: IMR 4350
Both stories are funny. But mine is true. If you had really taken out a couple of SS agents, you'd be lucky to be still living and breathing in a maximum security pen.

To be sure, I wouldn't do the same thing if I had the opportunity today. I've not only gown older and wiser with family responsibilities, but our government has grown more fascistic.

42 posted on 04/07/2013 8:48:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dirtboy

I mean California has lots of farm land and timber land and grazing land and hunting land and you mean to tell me that there isn’t any resistance to this crap?


43 posted on 04/07/2013 8:49:22 AM PDT by cherry
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To: CodeToad

One more reason for rational people to move to Texas...


44 posted on 04/07/2013 8:52:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Windflier

Heh, heh, the exodus was somebody else’s. Should have pointed out I live in South Carolina & that 1986 sticker was on a 1970’s station wagon with California tags! I’m certain the car’s owner has not regretted his choice.

Our state does do stupid things like elect Flimsey Grahamnesty, but otherwise it is so full of gun toting rednecks that the local Muslims keep their mouths shut. Liberals are mostly confined to the main U of SC campus. Cars with Obama stickers usually have a Coexist! sticker as well and are driven by bespectacled geeks with goofy teeth.

I’ve passed through California several times but the last time was in 1971 on my way to Vietnam. It’s the northern rural areas I remember best. The mild temps & fantastically blue skies were to die for.


45 posted on 04/07/2013 8:52:38 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Windflier

but where do we go now?....our America is gone...


46 posted on 04/07/2013 8:52:40 AM PDT by cherry
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To: IMR 4350
What we did then would get you thrown in jail today

Nah - 2008, maybe.

Today - two in the hat, no questions asked.

47 posted on 04/07/2013 8:59:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: cherry
but where do we go now?....our America is gone...

Mexico has much less government. That's where the Romney family went in search of more liberty just a few generations ago.

The difference between Mexico and the United States, particularly in the area of government regulation, is not subtle. Within minutes of crossing the Mexican border, you will be welcomed by vendors, entrepreneurs and small businesses on every sidewalk and even in the streets. If you want to open a small business, you can do so tomorrow without any of the crippling red tape that plagues small businesses here in the U.S.

48 posted on 04/07/2013 9:02:26 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Vigilanteman

You don’t go to prison for making Secret Service agents laugh.

Not today, not then.

Get over your “I’m so much wiser than you” complex.


49 posted on 04/07/2013 9:08:33 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 0.E.O

“And why wouldn’t the Colorado authorities be enforcing state laws? “

Why must they enforce every law passed? You should read up on “checks and balances” and the history of the United states and the US Constitution. We are not a legislative dictatorship.


50 posted on 04/07/2013 9:16:55 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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