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In Phoenix, A New Quest For Diverse Public Pool Lifeguards
NPR ^ | 3/28/2013

Posted on 04/06/2013 11:58:37 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

After noticing that most of the lifeguards at the public pools used by Latino and African-American kids were white, the Phoenix aquatics department decided to try to recruit minorities.

More than 90 percent of the students at Alhambra High are black, Latino or Asian. On a recruiting effort there over the winter, the city's Melissa Boyle tells students she's not looking for strong swimmers. Like many under-resourced schools, Alhambra doesn't have a swim team.

"We will work with you in your swimming abilities," Boyle says.

Boyle's colleague Kelly Martinez takes on the delicate task of explaining the scenario the city is trying to correct.

"The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white," she says, "and we don't like that. The kids don't relate; there's language issues."

Martinez turns to a Latina student to her. "Do you speak Spanish?" she asks. "We need more lifeguards who can speak Spanish."

Competitive swimming still has a reputation as a white sport. And a national study released in 2010 found African-Americans and Latinos reported much lower swimming proficiency compared to whites.

"It's that catch-22," says Becky Hulett, who oversees Phoenix's public pools. "If the kids don't learn how to swim, as adults they are not going to swim, [and] they aren't going to take their own kids to swim."

So two years ago, Hulett began rethinking lifeguard . Traditionally, Phoenix's 500 lifeguards came from more affluent parts of town, most of which are farther from the public pools.

"It really populated from schools that had swim teams, and so that was our feeder into our lifeguarding programs," she says.

To help diversify its lifeguard ranks, the city raised about $15,000 over the past two years in scholarships to offset the cost of lifeguard-certification . Recruits who pass a swim test at the end can apply to be city lifeguards.

As the teens swim laps at Alhambra, it's clear many haven't had much formal training. But the coaches of the course aren't fazed and are prepared to put in the time to teach.

"Honestly, I have a little bit a fear of the water, and I wanted to overcome that fear," says high school junior Jesus Jimenez. He didn't grow up going to pools with his family but likes the idea of lifeguarding.

"It is nice to have the satisfaction of knowing that if somebody is in trouble you can save them at any time," he says.

If he is selected to be a lifeguard, other pool staff will work with him on his swimming skills all summer.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; arizona; beckyhulett; kellymartinez; melissaboyle; mexico; phoenix; quotas
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the city's Melissa Boyle tells students she's not looking for strong swimmers

Why would you want lifeguards to be strong swimmers? That is so old school...

1 posted on 04/06/2013 11:58:37 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.
I guess a drowning Hispanic kid in a pool would rather have a poor-swimming Spanish speaker coming to rescue him than a strong-swimming Anglo.

Serious, you can't make this crap up.

2 posted on 04/06/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Altura Ct.

¡Peligro!


3 posted on 04/06/2013 12:03:53 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Altura Ct.

The jackasses in this country just can’t get over their goofy obsession with skin color and sexual disorientation. Personally, I don’t care what color a lifeguard is. I prefer that they are capable and qualified. Their skin color isn’t much help when some one is drowning and I don’t think many people have a preference as to the lifeguard’s skin color when they are drowning. It’s time for the taxpayers to start kickin’ the asses of some of these goofy public servants. They’re all morons.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 12:03:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: dirtboy

In the mean time all the white pools will be adequately staffed.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:01 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Altura Ct.

So now we can look at black *lifeguards* with the same “is he/she really qualified or is this an affirmative action hire?” thought that occurs when most of see a black doctor,lawyer,President,cop,etc,etc.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: dirtboy

When this article was posted a few days ago, I posted Kelly Martinez’s email addy at Parks and Recreation. I wonder if anybody ever got a reply?


7 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:33 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Altura Ct.

The white lifeguards should quit in mass, due to the overt racism.

Imagine noticing most of the lifeguards at a ‘white pool’ were black/latino, and then starting a program to correct that, even if it meant dangerously lowering the standards.

When the white lifeguards quit (before they are replaced), those minority pools will be forced to close.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:52 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Altura Ct.

This same logic would require handicapped lifeguards for handicapped swimmers....blind lifeguards for blind swimmers....and obese lifeguards for hefty XXL lifeguards for big-boy swimmers.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:58 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Altura Ct.

White kids take martial arts from non-whites all the time, even though the instructor does not speak good English. They watch the moves, learn the main words, and go for it.
Why can’t hispanic kids do that? They do it in baseball and elsewhere.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 12:05:49 PM PDT by married21
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To: Altura Ct.

Does this city have a Risk Management Department to advise them on the possible financial consequences of having incompetent life guards on duty?


11 posted on 04/06/2013 12:09:24 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Hey, at least if someone Hispanic drowns, they will die in peace knowing it was a Hispanic trying to save them.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 12:10:16 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Altura Ct.

This will be coming to the military too.

“We don’t care if you can shoot and have any leadership ability or tactical sense or are able to carry large loads. We need our services to resemble the country they will fail to defend.”

San Francisco, a few years ago, celebrated the first “all female firehouse.” I asked my 6’5” 300 pound friend (no, he is not fat) how thrilled he’d be to see that engine comapny pull up in front of a burning building he was trapped in.

These folks are so nutso.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 12:10:17 PM PDT by rey
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To: John Semmens
and i thought you were making it up...
14 posted on 04/06/2013 12:11:01 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Altura Ct.

life guard certification requires both written and practical examination. If they no longer require certification then liability will become a major issue.


15 posted on 04/06/2013 12:11:03 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Have they gone through whistle blowing school? “Hey You! Get Outta Da Pool!”


16 posted on 04/06/2013 12:13:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: dirtboy

Apparently Kelly Martinez would “like that” better. She doesn’t seem to like white people very much.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Altura Ct.

The first drowning at one of those pools ought to draw quite an interesting lawsuit in response.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 12:21:33 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
She speaks of "lifeguard-certification" then in the next breath speaks of "recruits who pass a swim test". She's clearly learning to be a Democrat racist liar.

Yes, the white lifeguards should quit, due to the overt racism and lowered safety standards brought to their pools by their administrators.

If a kid should drown--God forbid--I'm sure the city administration will happily pay the kid's family millions extracted from the wealthiest in their community. Won't that be fair and poetic? /sarc

HF

19 posted on 04/06/2013 12:23:15 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Altura Ct.

In another article she said that the pool is filled with black and hispanic kids, but all the lifeguards were white, and WE DON’T LIKE THAT.

Imagine if it was the other way round, her racism would put her out of a job. Here her racism is regarded as liberal brilliance.

Racism is only bad if liberal enemies can be accused of it. When liberals actually are racist, it’s celebrated as brilliance.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 12:24:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: dirtboy
That jumped out right away didn't it? LOL!

We would rather have a poorly trained spanish speaking doctor operate on your heart rather than a superbly trained anglo doctor.

21 posted on 04/06/2013 12:28:26 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Altura Ct. The POSes at NPR report:
On a recruiting effort there over the winter, the city's Melissa Boyle tells students she's not looking for strong swimmers.

22 posted on 04/06/2013 12:35:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Twotone

Appearance and quotas are obviously more important than competence and ability to liberals.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 12:36:00 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: elpadre
life guard certification requires both written and practical examination. If they no longer require certification then liability will become a major issue.

Notice they never say that they have to pass the lifeguard cert. They only have to pass a "swim test" to apply to be a lifeguard. Then the city will "work with them" on their swimming all summer.

Right. The first time someone dies because the city has in-place lifeguards with no lifeguard cert I hope they get their ass sued off.

24 posted on 04/06/2013 12:43:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Personally, I don’t care what color a lifeguard is.

You make an excellent point here. If the best lifeguards are Indians, I want them. If they're Koreans, I want them. I don't give a d@mn about what they look like - I want the guy that will save me from drowning.

25 posted on 04/06/2013 12:46:26 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Altura Ct.

I want to see how a lifeguard swims in a burqa.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 12:46:44 PM PDT by moovova
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To: married21

Even when the instructor is white, it didn’t matter. Whites, blacks, Mexicans galore, instructions were given in Korean!


27 posted on 04/06/2013 12:52:54 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: pepsionice
blind lifeguards for blind swimmers

Marco!

Polo!

Marco!

gub, gub, g...

Marco?

28 posted on 04/06/2013 12:54:22 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Altura Ct.

Maybe they should take a page from former Dodger GM Campanis’s commentary about black atheletes and their inability to swim due to buoyency issues?


29 posted on 04/06/2013 12:57:25 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Twotone
"Does this city have a Risk Management Department to advise them on the possible financial consequences of having incompetent life guards on duty?"

Doesn't matter. It is only taxpayer dollars. The left believes that there is an endless supply of money to support their world view.

30 posted on 04/06/2013 1:02:20 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Altura Ct.
After noticing that most of the lifeguards at the public pools used by Latino and African-American kids were white,

And why were these racists noticing skin color?

31 posted on 04/06/2013 1:10:10 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Altura Ct.

Documentation File on the negative impact of the Counterculture of Obamanation on America.


32 posted on 04/06/2013 1:11:13 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: dirtboy

Good to know the life guard can somewhat accurately say:

“Esse! Tu estas ahogando! Que triste!”

(Dude! You are drowning! Bummer!)


33 posted on 04/06/2013 1:12:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: Mouton

Aaa, brings back to me my experience at Bloom Township HS over 50 years ago. Just about all the black kids were really great at most sports . . . until it came to swimming. Then it was time for everybody else to shine, since they mostly sank.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 1:13:12 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Altura Ct.

At least the drowned child’s body can be removed from the pool by someone to whom they could have related.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 1:14:11 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Altura Ct.
will work with him on his swimming skills all summer

I always thought the Rio Grande was the final test for illegals........

36 posted on 04/06/2013 1:14:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Altura Ct.

Bflr


37 posted on 04/06/2013 1:15:49 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: libstripper

That was the point Camperis was trying to make but once he hit the third rail of ethnic differences, he had to pay and he did, good bye Al.

That was exactly my experience. I used to line up against one of the best defensive tackles in the Metro NY Area. He used to kill me, well, he would knock me down not hurt me. Later we would sometimes match up during water polo. I made sure I stayed at the deep end as he could not swim well. We used to laugh about it because he would say you will not have that smirk on your face if we get down the shallow end! He towered over me a good six inches so there was no chance I would consider doing that!


38 posted on 04/06/2013 1:19:05 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Mouton
Take a look at the US Olympic swim team

I only notice one black guy and one black woman on the team. And I'm safe in assuming they went through EVERY effort to find non-white team members.

Meanwhile, look at the running teams and count the black vs white faces.

39 posted on 04/06/2013 1:30:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Or put another way:

Anglo lifeguards have put in a lot of time and effort to become proficient and certified lifeguards and WE DON'T LIKE THAT!

40 posted on 04/06/2013 1:34:36 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Altura Ct.
More than 90 percent of the students at Alhambra High are black, Latino or Asian. On a recruiting effort there over the winter, the city's Melissa Boyle tells students she's not looking for strong swimmers. Like many under-resourced schools, Alhambra doesn't have a swim team.

Notice the 'pity party' excuse?

It's not that their parents didn't give a damn about raising their kids - it's because their schools didn't have 'swim teams'...

IS THERE ANYONE here who learned to swim at school? Anyone? There are public pools in every city.... maybe the parents should get off their behinds and take their kids to free swim lessons or teach them themselves.

When the first child dies at one of these public pools attempting to be 'oh so inclusive' how will guilty white liberal idiots find a way to blame white people?

41 posted on 04/06/2013 1:35:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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"The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white," she says, "and we don't like that. The kids don't relate; there's language issues."

She has a point there. Water doesn't speak spanish.

42 posted on 04/06/2013 1:36:45 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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"More than 90 percent of the students at Alhambra High are black, Latino or Asian."

That means that 90 per cent of the parents are lazy, stupid, and are too apathetic to have their kids get swimming lessons. Maybe THAT is why anglo kids are life guards?

43 posted on 04/06/2013 1:41:45 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Mouton

Long ago I lived in Chicago and would go biking along the lake on th near north side. Being a pretty good swimmer, I went through mental scenarios based on being way laid by Amish thugs. I decided the best thing to do would be to jump into the lake where it was over my head and challenge them to follow on the belief that I could robably drown any one of them who did. No, I didn’t ever have to do it.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 1:44:48 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: dirtboy

“I guess a drowning Hispanic kid in a pool would rather have a poor-swimming Spanish speaker coming to rescue him than a strong-swimming Anglo.”

This will spread to every aspect of our economy (it really is ALL ABOUT MONEY), until it is outright illegal to hire a white guy. It is close enough now, with “diversity lawsuits” forcing companies to take unqualified tokens on the payroll and simply keeping them out of the way of productive, smart people who get the real work done.


45 posted on 04/06/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Altura Ct.
If he is selected to be a lifeguard, other pool staff will work with him on his swimming skills all summer.

what???? he gets to be a lifeguard BEFORE he actually has the skills? i see where this is going...

46 posted on 04/06/2013 2:05:57 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Altura Ct.
"The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white," she says, "and we don't like that. The kids don't relate; there's language issues."

then the kids should learn to speak ENGLISH!

47 posted on 04/06/2013 2:07:04 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep. This same crap went on when women started trying to get into fire fighting. Who wants a 130 lb 5’ 4” PERSON to be the one to carry them out of a burning building? Really disgusting thinking.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 2:40:51 PM PDT by Pigsley (nan)
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To: Altura Ct.

Check out the comments at the source (NPR of all places!). Maybe there is yet hope for us?


49 posted on 04/06/2013 2:49:45 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Altura Ct.

If I were the pool authority, the first place I would look is t5he latino ski patrol


50 posted on 04/06/2013 2:54:32 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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