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Turning Gun Owners into Felons (New bill would make it a crime to “transfer” your gun to a spouse)
National Review ^ | 04/05/2013 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 04/06/2013 10:35:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Public-opinion polls about “universal background checks” for gun sales show widespread support. While President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg talk about “gun sales,” the actual legislation moving through Congress aims to regulate far more than sales. It would turn almost every gun owner into a felon. The trick is that the language under consideration applies not only to sales but also to “transfers,” which are defined to include innocent activities such as letting your spouse borrow your gun for a few hours.

Consider, for example, Senate bill S.649, which the Senate will soon take up for debate. The background-check portion of the bill, Charles Schumer’s “Fix Gun Checks Act,” is based on model language that the Bloomberg gun-control lobby is pushing all over the country.

To see how the Bloomberg bill makes felons of people who do not sell guns, consider a woman who buys a rifle when she is 25 years old. She keeps the rifle her entire life. Yet over her lifetime, she — like most gun owners — engages in dozens of firearms “transfers.” She brings the unloaded rifle to a friend’s house, for instance, because the friend is thinking of buying a gun and wants to learn more about guns. The friend handles the rifle for a few minutes before handing it back. Another time, the woman lends the gun to her niece, who takes it on a camping trip for the weekend.

While the woman is out of town on a business trip for two weeks, she gives the gun to her husband or her sister. If the woman lives on a farm, she allows all her relatives to take the rifle into the fields for pest and predator control — and sometimes, when friends are visiting, she takes them to a safe place on the farm where they spend an hour or two target shooting, passing her gun back and forth. At other times, she and her friends go target shooting in open spaces of land owned by the National Forest Service or the Bureau of Land Management.

Or perhaps the woman is in a same-sex civil union, and she allows her partner to take her gun to a target range one afternoon. Another time, she allows her cousin to borrow the gun for an afternoon of target shooting. If the woman is in the Army Reserve and she is called up for an overseas deployment, she gives the gun to her sister for temporary safekeeping.

One time, she learns that her neighbor is being threatened by an abusive ex-boyfriend, and she lets this woman borrow a gun for several days until she can buy her own gun. And if the woman becomes a firearms-safety instructor, she regularly teaches classes at office parks, in school buildings at nights and on weekends, at gun stores, and so on. Following the standard curriculum of gun-safety classes (such as NRA safety courses), the woman will bring some unloaded guns to the classroom, and under her supervision, students will learn the first steps in how to handle the guns, including how to load and unload them (using dummy ammunition). During the class, the firearms will be “transferred” dozens of times, since students must practice how to hand a gun to someone else safely. As a Boy Scout den mother or 4-H leader, the woman may also transfer her gun to young people dozens of times while instructing them in gun safety.

Under S. 649, every one of the above activities would be a federal felony, subject to precisely the same punishment a person would receive if he had knowingly sold a firearm to a convicted violent felon. S. 649, like other Bloomberg-model bills, has a few exceptions to the ban on transfers, but none of them apply to the situations described above.

You can make a “bona fide gift” (but not a three-hour loan) to certain close family members, not including aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws, or civil-union partners.

You can let someone else borrow your gun for up to seven days, but only within your home or its curtilage (e.g., the porch or deck).

You cannot lend your gun to someone on any open space you own. And even your husband can’t borrow your gun for more than seven days.

You can share a gun at a shooting range, but only if the shooting range is owned by a corporation — not if it’s on public lands or on your own property.

You can share a gun while out hunting in the field. But back at the hunting camp, you can’t clean someone else’s gun.

This is not “gun control” in the constitutionally legitimate sense: reasonable laws that protect public safety without interfering with the responsible ownership and use of firearms.

— Dave Kopel is an adjunct professor of advanced constitutional law at Denver University, Sturm College of Law, and also research director at the Independence Institute, in Denver.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunlaws; obama; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: SeekAndFind

From CCDL:

This is just another inconsistency in Public Act 13-3 (formerly SB1160). A CCDL member sent this to Governor Malloy, who thinks he’ll get a reply?

Governor Malloy,

I have been shooting bullseye competition pistol for almost 15 years in Connecticut. This sport involves shooting paper targets with a .22lr target pistol. For those not familiar with the .22lr cartridge, it is a tiny weak cartridge designed to put small holes in paper and tin cans.

SB1160 clarifies that .22lr rifles would not be classified as assault weapons under the single feature rule (most likely recognizing the intent and extreme limitations of this cartridge), but there was no similar language for .22lr pistols.

With this bill my .22lr target pistol I shot in competitions (see below photo) will be considered an assault weapon simply because the magazine is inserted forward of the grip. All high end .22lr competition target pistols have the magazine located forward of the grip to enhance balance. This bill will effectively destroy competitive bullseye pistol shooting in CT.

My wife is an up and coming competitive target shooter and will now not be allowed to upgrade to this next level of pistol as her skills improve.

Please explain to me how classifying my .22lr target pistol as an “assault weapon” helps protect the people of Connecticut.

Please explain to me why there are provisions for .22lr rifles to not fall under the single feature rule yet no provisions to prevent .22lr target pistols from falling under the same rule.

If this makes no sense to you as well, what can be done to revise SB1160 to keep these pistols designed and used only for target shooting from being incorrectly classified as “assault weapons”?

I eagerly await your reply.


41 posted on 04/08/2013 4:06:03 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: SeekAndFind

universal background checks CODE registration

(for those in rio linda, confiscation.)


42 posted on 04/08/2013 10:28:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

“civil union partners”?!!!!

the state is already determinine what is or is not “a family unit”!


43 posted on 04/08/2013 11:02:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

NOT INCLUDING aunts, uncles, neices, nephews......

Just how CLOSE is defined as being “CLISE”???

For those of us who are unmarried or who had no children, we are discriminated against giving anything to a niece or nephew.

Chuck You Schumer is so out of control.

Someone needs to stop him....now.


44 posted on 04/08/2013 5:01:45 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Progressives or liberals are just socialists. They always come up with different labels for themselves when the current one gets stale or becomes the object of derision. But, no matter what label they brand themselves they are first and foremost socialists.


45 posted on 04/08/2013 5:03:00 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ridesthemiles

“CLISE”???”””

CLOSE-—sorry


46 posted on 04/08/2013 5:05:04 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pallis; All

Kinda throws the whole idea of “community property” presidence out the window...

I guess they didn’t think about that aspect of the situation...


47 posted on 04/08/2013 6:18:42 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Vinnie
How would the gov. know you transfered a gun to someone unless they knew you had it in the first place? AKA registration. !!!!

That's what this bill is all about, defacto gun registration by expanding the scope of the currently required background checks to include checks on all gun transfers by and to all individuals no matter how temporary or nominal the transfer may be. The current background check law doesn't require the gun's serial number or description but as I understand it the proposed new law does. Once Big Bro knows the gun's serial number and who received it, it will be defacto registered to that person along with his/her address so that Big Bro's goons will know where to come for it when the order is given that Senator Feinstein says she wants to hear. Of course that order she wants to hear is "Ok Mr. & Mrs. America, turn 'em all in".

48 posted on 04/08/2013 11:45:26 PM PDT by epow (Keep the faith Christians, but don't keep it from those who don't have it)
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