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5 Strange Cultural Facts About North Korea
Yahoo News ^ | 4/6/13 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 04/06/2013 10:24:06 AM PDT by Kartographer

1. Isolation nation 2. Mythical leaders 3. National prison 4. Daily life in North Korea 5. Difficult adjustments

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"Education in North Korea is useless for life in South Korea," Gwak Jong-moon, principal of a boarding school for North Korean refugees, told Blaine Harden, the author of "Escape from Camp 14." "When you are too hungry, you don't go to learn and teachers don't go to teach. Many of our students have been hiding in China for years with no access to schools. As young children in North Korea, they grew up eating bark off trees and thinking it was normal."

1 posted on 04/06/2013 10:24:06 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

North Korea insist on isolation BECAUSE if the people there knew they were the laughing stock of the world - off allowing themselves to be treated like dogs (or worse) they might rebel.

And their ‘leaders’? They push the mythical stuff to keep their boot squarely on the face of their citizens. It has NOTHING to do with them believing it. Totalitarian tool... period.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 10:39:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Kartographer

They get nothing but propaganda in NK schools, like ours are becoming


3 posted on 04/06/2013 10:39:55 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer

It was the same in East Germany, and the East still hasn’t completely caught up 20 years after reunification.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 10:40:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL
"They get nothing but propaganda in NK schools, like ours are becoming"
5 posted on 04/06/2013 10:40:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

bump

I wonder how many NK peeps really think we Americans are the poorest and most starving country on Earth with people desperate to be more like them?


6 posted on 04/06/2013 10:43:50 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dfwgator

Trying to integrate NK into SK would need a 10-20 year transition, if it all happens at once, Korea would be impoverished again for a couple of generations. It is a much bigger difference than east and west Germany.

and remember East and West Germany never fought a war against each other.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 10:45:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dfwgator

But the Eat German’s knew that what they lived in was not the way. These people don’t know any other and most likely wouldn’t believe you if told them so.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 10:48:20 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL

It would take a heck of a lot longer than 20 years. It would be like trying to take someone suffering from profound mental retardation and putting them into MENSA. The damage done by the Kims to their people has virtually no equal in the past century, and the disconnect from their Southern brothers and sisters equally as vast.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 11:01:11 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kartographer

You would be amazed how many Osties are deeply nostalgic for the GDR...


10 posted on 04/06/2013 11:03:17 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kartographer

I once read a book about the Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko, who defected to Japan in his MiG-29. When he was brought to the US and driven around Northern Virginia, he thought that everything he was seeing was a made-up Potemkin Village for his benefit.

It boggled his mind that people could just walk into Safeway and choose from a dozen different kinds of canned beans and walk out again with a full shopping cart for so little money.

I can’t imagine taking a North Korean defector into an ordinary American supermarket with no period of Western acclimation.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 11:08:30 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: GeronL

We don’t really know the true population of North Korea. It may be way less than published.

The numbers to be integrated may not be severe


12 posted on 04/06/2013 11:13:42 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Kartographer

6. Extortion as a way of life

If they could not extort money from the U.S. with threats of aggression, their government would collapse.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 11:14:51 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Kartographer

Everyone on this site needs to read this article and get a glimpse of hell on earth.

Then you need to resolve never to give up your guns. When the day comes that the govt steps across the line and comes after us - and that day will come - you need to remember that if you give up and lay down that this is the fate that awaits you.

There are some things worse than death.

I’d rather go down fighting along side my family than live in a world like this. I will take as many of the SOB’s as I can with me, and no prisoners will be taken. Make sure that anyone illegally siding with the govt against the citizens goes down brutally, and goes down hard.

When that day comes be ready, lock and load and kill ‘em all.


14 posted on 04/06/2013 11:15:02 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
It would be like trying to take someone suffering from profound mental retardation and putting them into MENSA.

You actually hit upon a good point because many millions of N. Koreans likely suffer from various levels of mental retardation as a result of long term malnutrition.

15 posted on 04/06/2013 11:17:54 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Riley

I escorted a group of visiting Georgian teens to a local mall in the 90’s, not really great by big city standards. They were nonchalant....... the availability of so much stuff and the apparent wealth of the ordinary folks was difficult to comprehend.

They were embarrassed at their own (Georgian) inadequacy. They brought along a puppet show to put on performances to earn their way. No one came to the heavily publicized shows. It was a fiasco and big financial problem for the American sponsors.

One of the kids showed up in my office seeking asylum. Big headache. The State Department sent an officer and asylum was ultimately denied.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 11:21:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: GeronL

30-40 at least.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 11:21:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

People imagine the Norkies hate their leaders and are ambivalent about their country —that they’d welcome us as liberators.

COMPLETELY WRONG:

They are socialized from birth that they owe everything to the unselfishness of their wise and indefatigable leaders; the outside world is cold dangerous and bad, NK is warm safe and good.

They have NO competing information at all.

They’d each fight like honey-badgers to the bitter end. The war would make Tarawa seem like it had been defended by bi-curious hair-dressers.

By nature pan-Korea is passionate and tough. Culturally South Korea is Japan 50 years ago, North Korea is Japan 100 years ago —kamikazes ‘cept with a few nukes, maybe.

Expect NONE to throw down their arms.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 11:25:00 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Can’t we do literature drops or something? I had a former CIA agent as a teacher in college, who mentioned things like leaving Sears catalogs lying around in Russia, so people could see what was available in America. Could we drop the equivalent of a Harry Potter “Howler” letter, that yells information about the real world when opened?
Is anybody making any creative attempts to do anything? Because, if not, when it finally blows open, it will be a lot worse than if there had been some sort of gradual awakening.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by married21
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To: GeronL

“Trying to integrate NK into SK would need a 10-20 year transition, if it all happens at once, Korea would be impoverished again for a couple of generations. It is a much bigger difference than east and west Germany.

and remember East and West Germany never fought a war against each other.”

You don’t think citizens in East Germany were not subjected to propaganda?

It was called the “cold war” and the majority of easterners complied and became believers, instead of (dead-imprisoned) rebels.

The temporary transition problems are offset by long term benefits.

I think the conditions are so different in the north and south of Korea, that the citizens would want what the south has.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 12:01:44 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: gaijin
I say we invade from amphibious landing craft and walk to Pyongyang, roasting alive and eating every Korean we encounter. When we get to Kim's palace, we drag him outside and beat in his brains with an iron pipe.

Then we nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure

21 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:53 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: atc23

The only way the country can change is to get to the generals. They either need to overthrow Kim or be killed so the army cannot function.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 12:15:42 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Riley

In the 70s and 80s I worked as an instructor of students in ‘centrally controlled economies’ for a petroleum-related company.

The students would come to this country for their training. As the instructor, I would be tasked with setting them up in apartments and filling their refrigerators.

I took some Rumanian students to the supermarket and got a basket. They ran to the meat counter and immediately filled the basket with everything that would fit in the basket. I said, “Your freezer is not big enough to fit all of that. Why are you doing that?” Their response was that they had to get all of the meat before it was all gone.

I explained to them that it would be ok because the meat section would be restocked overnight.

They looked at me in disbelief so that I had to take them back to the supermarket the next day to show them. They were absolutely amazed! The poor souls had lived a life of hell. Many of them defected to this country after getting back to Rumania.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 12:15:45 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: GeronL

My mother and her friends took out their 19 year old neighbor/friend for a farewell dinner when he was off to South Korea back in the 50’s and came home in a coffin..and she is always right in stating we should have nuked Mecca after 9/11 instead of invading Iraq and also we should just go ahead and nuke NK.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 12:21:56 PM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

But at least in the end, the Romanians did take matters into their own hands.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 12:24:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

Did you notice much of their paintings etc. are so cartoonish.....I think this is on purpose....it keeps them looking at themselves as brainless....it’s all pretty colors, singing, and playing instuments....or war. There’s nothing else..”grown-Up” apart from Kim’s photos in their homes.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 12:28:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: truth_seeker

What they “want” may even be questionable... if they know what that is aside from basics...they have endured “want” for basics theywould be completely overwhelmed by life in the south.

Those who have escaped explain later, after a hard adjustment...how shocking it is to their entire system when they see how the rest of the world lives...and distressed greatly when they realize all the Kim’s have done .

Their adjustment takes allot of work and time....Sometimes wanting to go back to N.Korea before their adjustment is completed. Which that tells us how difficult it is.

How does one become “responsible” when they don’t know what that means....or what choice is.....and to be flooded with so many things to choose from?

It would be worth all who have interest to view the many videos on line from those who have escaped.....you can see some are still oveerwhlmed when they speak of life there...and because they are proud it’’s embarrassing for them.


27 posted on 04/06/2013 12:36:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kartographer

28 posted on 04/06/2013 12:39:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Free Vulcan

I’ll die on my fee with my guns blazing, than live on my knees with my hands bound and tied.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 12:51:43 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: carriage_hill

fee = feet.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 12:58:27 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: gaijin
People imagine the Norkies hate their leaders and are ambivalent about their country —that they’d welcome us as liberators. COMPLETELY WRONG

I don't know. I remember watching all the North Korean people crying and tearing their hair out when Kim Jong Il died, and thinking that I'd never seen so many bs crocodile tears in all my life. You could tell by watching the commoners carrying on. They were acting to save their lives. Literally.

I've also read a lot about all those trying to escape that prison country. Those people aren't so brain washed that they think chronic hunger, fear, and want is normal. Tell me that the starving proles don't look at the well fed people in the military and come to the obvious conclusion. I think they do.

Given a chance, I believe a significant percentage of North Koreans would gladly plunge a knife into the backs of their oppressors.

31 posted on 04/06/2013 2:34:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kartographer

Imagine the miseries suffered by North Koreans being ushered into America by our own contemporary social pathologies implemented in policies and laws. Have you seen those miseries being added to our lives, little by little, for decades? Squalor is the step just ahead for many more.


32 posted on 04/06/2013 3:17:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: GeronL
Trying to integrate NK into SK would need a 10-20 year transition

You are being extremely optimistic. Taiwan was a poor backwater province when the KMT retreated there at the end of the Chinese Civil War, it took till the 80's for them to make the uncomfortable transition to a modern democratic country. SK was a very poor country ruled by a military dictatorship in 1954, they made their transition to a modern democratic country ~1990.

33 posted on 04/06/2013 5:11:49 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: gaijin

“socialized from birth...”

Are there any dissidents at all?? That fact alone is scary stuff. Can a nation be completely brainwashed?


34 posted on 04/06/2013 6:58:08 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Free Vulcan

Ouch Vulcan Very scary - do you think it will happen?


35 posted on 04/06/2013 7:00:58 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: married21

“equivalent of Harry Potter..”

I like your idea, Harry Potter though? Surely we can do better than that ....


36 posted on 04/06/2013 7:05:06 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

Yep and we need take no aggressive, provocative, or initiative actions whatsoever, because the govt will eventually come right at us to our very doorsteps. The globalists have a timetable and they will do whatever it takes to meet it.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 8:18:18 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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