Skip to comments.5 Strange Cultural Facts About North Korea
Posted on 04/06/2013 10:24:06 AM PDT by Kartographer
1. Isolation nation 2. Mythical leaders 3. National prison 4. Daily life in North Korea 5. Difficult adjustments
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
"Education in North Korea is useless for life in South Korea," Gwak Jong-moon, principal of a boarding school for North Korean refugees, told Blaine Harden, the author of "Escape from Camp 14." "When you are too hungry, you don't go to learn and teachers don't go to teach. Many of our students have been hiding in China for years with no access to schools. As young children in North Korea, they grew up eating bark off trees and thinking it was normal."
North Korea insist on isolation BECAUSE if the people there knew they were the laughing stock of the world - off allowing themselves to be treated like dogs (or worse) they might rebel.
And their ‘leaders’? They push the mythical stuff to keep their boot squarely on the face of their citizens. It has NOTHING to do with them believing it. Totalitarian tool... period.
They get nothing but propaganda in NK schools, like ours are becoming
It was the same in East Germany, and the East still hasn’t completely caught up 20 years after reunification.
I wonder how many NK peeps really think we Americans are the poorest and most starving country on Earth with people desperate to be more like them?
Trying to integrate NK into SK would need a 10-20 year transition, if it all happens at once, Korea would be impoverished again for a couple of generations. It is a much bigger difference than east and west Germany.
and remember East and West Germany never fought a war against each other.
But the Eat German’s knew that what they lived in was not the way. These people don’t know any other and most likely wouldn’t believe you if told them so.
It would take a heck of a lot longer than 20 years. It would be like trying to take someone suffering from profound mental retardation and putting them into MENSA. The damage done by the Kims to their people has virtually no equal in the past century, and the disconnect from their Southern brothers and sisters equally as vast.
You would be amazed how many Osties are deeply nostalgic for the GDR...
I once read a book about the Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko, who defected to Japan in his MiG-29. When he was brought to the US and driven around Northern Virginia, he thought that everything he was seeing was a made-up Potemkin Village for his benefit.
It boggled his mind that people could just walk into Safeway and choose from a dozen different kinds of canned beans and walk out again with a full shopping cart for so little money.
I can’t imagine taking a North Korean defector into an ordinary American supermarket with no period of Western acclimation.
We don’t really know the true population of North Korea. It may be way less than published.
The numbers to be integrated may not be severe
6. Extortion as a way of life
If they could not extort money from the U.S. with threats of aggression, their government would collapse.
Everyone on this site needs to read this article and get a glimpse of hell on earth.
Then you need to resolve never to give up your guns. When the day comes that the govt steps across the line and comes after us - and that day will come - you need to remember that if you give up and lay down that this is the fate that awaits you.
There are some things worse than death.
I’d rather go down fighting along side my family than live in a world like this. I will take as many of the SOB’s as I can with me, and no prisoners will be taken. Make sure that anyone illegally siding with the govt against the citizens goes down brutally, and goes down hard.
When that day comes be ready, lock and load and kill ‘em all.
You actually hit upon a good point because many millions of N. Koreans likely suffer from various levels of mental retardation as a result of long term malnutrition.
I escorted a group of visiting Georgian teens to a local mall in the 90’s, not really great by big city standards. They were nonchalant....... the availability of so much stuff and the apparent wealth of the ordinary folks was difficult to comprehend.
They were embarrassed at their own (Georgian) inadequacy. They brought along a puppet show to put on performances to earn their way. No one came to the heavily publicized shows. It was a fiasco and big financial problem for the American sponsors.
One of the kids showed up in my office seeking asylum. Big headache. The State Department sent an officer and asylum was ultimately denied.
30-40 at least.
People imagine the Norkies hate their leaders and are ambivalent about their country —that they’d welcome us as liberators.
They are socialized from birth that they owe everything to the unselfishness of their wise and indefatigable leaders; the outside world is cold dangerous and bad, NK is warm safe and good.
They have NO competing information at all.
They’d each fight like honey-badgers to the bitter end. The war would make Tarawa seem like it had been defended by bi-curious hair-dressers.
By nature pan-Korea is passionate and tough. Culturally South Korea is Japan 50 years ago, North Korea is Japan 100 years ago —kamikazes ‘cept with a few nukes, maybe.
Expect NONE to throw down their arms.
Can’t we do literature drops or something? I had a former CIA agent as a teacher in college, who mentioned things like leaving Sears catalogs lying around in Russia, so people could see what was available in America. Could we drop the equivalent of a Harry Potter “Howler” letter, that yells information about the real world when opened?
Is anybody making any creative attempts to do anything? Because, if not, when it finally blows open, it will be a lot worse than if there had been some sort of gradual awakening.
“Trying to integrate NK into SK would need a 10-20 year transition, if it all happens at once, Korea would be impoverished again for a couple of generations. It is a much bigger difference than east and west Germany.
and remember East and West Germany never fought a war against each other.”
You don’t think citizens in East Germany were not subjected to propaganda?
It was called the “cold war” and the majority of easterners complied and became believers, instead of (dead-imprisoned) rebels.
The temporary transition problems are offset by long term benefits.
I think the conditions are so different in the north and south of Korea, that the citizens would want what the south has.
Then we nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure
The only way the country can change is to get to the generals. They either need to overthrow Kim or be killed so the army cannot function.
In the 70s and 80s I worked as an instructor of students in ‘centrally controlled economies’ for a petroleum-related company.
The students would come to this country for their training. As the instructor, I would be tasked with setting them up in apartments and filling their refrigerators.
I took some Rumanian students to the supermarket and got a basket. They ran to the meat counter and immediately filled the basket with everything that would fit in the basket. I said, “Your freezer is not big enough to fit all of that. Why are you doing that?” Their response was that they had to get all of the meat before it was all gone.
I explained to them that it would be ok because the meat section would be restocked overnight.
They looked at me in disbelief so that I had to take them back to the supermarket the next day to show them. They were absolutely amazed! The poor souls had lived a life of hell. Many of them defected to this country after getting back to Rumania.
My mother and her friends took out their 19 year old neighbor/friend for a farewell dinner when he was off to South Korea back in the 50’s and came home in a coffin..and she is always right in stating we should have nuked Mecca after 9/11 instead of invading Iraq and also we should just go ahead and nuke NK.
But at least in the end, the Romanians did take matters into their own hands.
Did you notice much of their paintings etc. are so cartoonish.....I think this is on purpose....it keeps them looking at themselves as brainless....it’s all pretty colors, singing, and playing instuments....or war. There’s nothing else..”grown-Up” apart from Kim’s photos in their homes.
What they “want” may even be questionable... if they know what that is aside from basics...they have endured “want” for basics theywould be completely overwhelmed by life in the south.
Those who have escaped explain later, after a hard adjustment...how shocking it is to their entire system when they see how the rest of the world lives...and distressed greatly when they realize all the Kim’s have done .
Their adjustment takes allot of work and time....Sometimes wanting to go back to N.Korea before their adjustment is completed. Which that tells us how difficult it is.
How does one become “responsible” when they don’t know what that means....or what choice is.....and to be flooded with so many things to choose from?
It would be worth all who have interest to view the many videos on line from those who have escaped.....you can see some are still oveerwhlmed when they speak of life there...and because they are proud it’’s embarrassing for them.
I’ll die on my fee with my guns blazing, than live on my knees with my hands bound and tied.
fee = feet.
I don't know. I remember watching all the North Korean people crying and tearing their hair out when Kim Jong Il died, and thinking that I'd never seen so many bs crocodile tears in all my life. You could tell by watching the commoners carrying on. They were acting to save their lives. Literally.
I've also read a lot about all those trying to escape that prison country. Those people aren't so brain washed that they think chronic hunger, fear, and want is normal. Tell me that the starving proles don't look at the well fed people in the military and come to the obvious conclusion. I think they do.
Given a chance, I believe a significant percentage of North Koreans would gladly plunge a knife into the backs of their oppressors.
Imagine the miseries suffered by North Koreans being ushered into America by our own contemporary social pathologies implemented in policies and laws. Have you seen those miseries being added to our lives, little by little, for decades? Squalor is the step just ahead for many more.
You are being extremely optimistic. Taiwan was a poor backwater province when the KMT retreated there at the end of the Chinese Civil War, it took till the 80's for them to make the uncomfortable transition to a modern democratic country. SK was a very poor country ruled by a military dictatorship in 1954, they made their transition to a modern democratic country ~1990.
“socialized from birth...”
Are there any dissidents at all?? That fact alone is scary stuff. Can a nation be completely brainwashed?
Ouch Vulcan Very scary - do you think it will happen?
“equivalent of Harry Potter..”
I like your idea, Harry Potter though? Surely we can do better than that ....
Yep and we need take no aggressive, provocative, or initiative actions whatsoever, because the govt will eventually come right at us to our very doorsteps. The globalists have a timetable and they will do whatever it takes to meet it.
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