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Obama to offer Social Security cuts in new budget in exchange for tax hikes
Hotair ^ | 04/05/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/05/2013 9:22:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: JCBreckenridge

My extended family is Catholic and for generations the majority of them have voted Republican. Most of them live in the New York area. My late uncle, a Catholic, was a Republican party official on Long Island, NY many years ago.

My first cousin....she’s an elementary school teacher on Long Island, and a Catholic, told me in late October that she couldn’t wait to go the polls and vote for Romney. She said she wished she could vote for him twice. When I asked her about damage from Superstorm Sandy, she told me she would swim to the polls if she had to.

I also have relatives who have lived their entire lives in Massachusetts and they are staunch conservatives, as well as Catholic. So, there’s hope.

The Catholic vote is skewed because, unfortunately, vast numbers of Mexican and Puerto Rican Catholics vote for the dems.


41 posted on 04/05/2013 12:16:48 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: manc
What do you think happened to California?

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42 posted on 04/05/2013 12:54:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The thing is that the Catholic vote has always been democrat, there are only about five exceptions in our history, Catholics immigrating from the most Catholic nations are not really changing anything, they are just keeping it normal.


43 posted on 04/05/2013 12:56:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He simply “filled the order” required. Doubt any thought put into it as he knows it won’t fly. But he can say he did it, and that’s about the it of it....next!


44 posted on 04/05/2013 1:02:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: Vigilanteman
they can make up the shortfall with AARP’s superb insurance programs.
Actually, they're not AARP's insurance programs.
AARP just supports and/or advocates for the ones that give them the biggest kickbacks.
45 posted on 04/05/2013 1:05:25 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting that he is willing to cut the one thing that Americans are forced to pay into and actually have skin in that game.


46 posted on 04/05/2013 1:12:14 PM PDT by kempster
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

And that, precisely, is my thesis. Thank you. It’s not about Catholicism. It’s about race.


47 posted on 04/05/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12

The last time Republicans won is when they won the Catholic vote.

Perhaps Republicans should be waking up to that fact.


48 posted on 04/05/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You are saying that democrats do win because of the Catholic vote, and the reason the republicans won the popular vote in 2004 is because when Protestants can get 50 or 51% of the Catholics to vote pro-life conservative, then the democrats lose.

I think that is what the point is, the fact that the Catholic vote is what the democrats depend on and pin their hopes on, and they pray for more Catholics and atheists.


49 posted on 04/05/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
The last time Republicans won is when they won the Catholic vote.
Perhaps Republicans should be waking up to that fact.

Can you explain your promotion of the democrat party and their agenda? Your claim is that the democrat party is naturally the home of Catholics because the republicans have the wrong politics in comparison, that their pro-abortion democrat vote is appropriate for Catholics.

50 posted on 04/05/2013 1:44:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is stuck on stupid. No social security cuts. No tax increases.

Scrap obamacare, quit looting social security, privitize a portion of social security, cut taxes and stimulate growth. That will get people working and bring in more revenue


51 posted on 04/05/2013 1:49:15 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ansel12

Feel free to cite a post where I defend abortion or gay marriage.

I will call out pro abortion and pro sodomy republicans, and protestants rather then give them cover.

Why should conservative Catholics support a party that supports homosexuality and abortion?


52 posted on 04/05/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind
Look for ZERO negotiations with ZERO during the next 15-18 months. EVERYTHING HE DOES GOING FORWARD WILL BE WITH ONE END GOAL - TO PLACE BLAME FOR EVERYTHING WRONG IN AMERICA ON THE REPUBLICANS AND THUS TO WIN BACK THE HOUSE IN 2014.

No deals forthcoming even if the GOP stumbles over itself to forge a deal - ZERO will scuttle any such deal and then blame the GOP. The propagandist media dutifully reports the lie and the "low information voter" sheeple of America dutifully lap it up.
53 posted on 04/05/2013 2:19:37 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ansel12

I am saying precisely the opposite.

The numbers indicate that the Democrats do not require the Catholic vote while the Republicans do.

If you remove the entire Catholic electorate - Obama still wins in both 2008, and in 2012.

If you remove the entire Catholic electorate in 2004, Bush loses.

Ergo, I conclude that the Republican party now requires the support of Catholics in order to win. The Democrat party does not.


54 posted on 04/05/2013 2:19:51 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: manc

true but the north east with all of it’s Catholics should be the most conservative and it isn’t because they call themselves Catholic but vote against their faith

I have never understood this. How can you call yourself Catholic or any other Christian, and vote for abortion? The Hispanic population has always stumped me with this also, since they are generally very family oriented and religious people as a whole.


55 posted on 04/05/2013 2:23:05 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (When will the rest of America's citizens wake up to the Obamanation?)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Why should conservative Catholics support a party that supports homosexuality and abortion?

Why indeed, why do Catholics vote majority democrat?

56 posted on 04/05/2013 2:23:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now he can tell all those who get their SS cut, the Republicans made him do it.

The Republicans will fall for anything.


57 posted on 04/05/2013 2:28:35 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Wisconsinlady
true but the north east with all of it’s Catholics should be the most conservative

The Catholic vote has always been know to lean left, big city democrat machines and unions depended on it.

The Catholic vote has never been known as conservative or right wing.

58 posted on 04/05/2013 2:43:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Crazy that obamma has racked up an additional $6 trillion in debt in less than 5 years and now he wants to talk debt reduction? Very crazy indeed!


59 posted on 04/05/2013 2:51:35 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

The cuts to Social Security are cuts in the rate of growth of Social Security, something the democrats in Congress racked Bush over the coals about when he suggested it.

obamma gets a pass because he is a Democrat.


60 posted on 04/05/2013 2:54:00 PM PDT by rawhide
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