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Border Patrol Now Experiencing an Ammunition Shortage
Town Hall ^ | Apr. 5, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 04/05/2013 6:22:08 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Despite the Department of Homeland Security recently putting in orders to purchase billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition for a purpose of what officials say is target practice, training and quarterly qualifications, Border Patrol agents were told yesterday afternoon that they will not be issued any new proficiency ammunition for next quarter.

Due to budget concerns and ammunition availability, we will not be getting issued any proficiency ammunition for next quarter. In addition to these reductions, we are also being limited to qualification ammo only. What this means to you is that you will not receive the normal 150 rounds for practice and we will not have any extra ammunition for a combat course following normal qualifications.

If you have the ammunition available and would like extra practice during your qualification day, the firearms instructors will have a training course available for Indio Station Personnel, keeping in mind basic marksmanship skills as well as tactical training with a limited amount of ammunition. You are not required to bring your own ammunition.

If you do not have extra ammo to bring, you will be given extra time to clean and maintain your issued handgun as well as station long arms.

If you have any questions about this quarters quals please feel free to send me your concerns.

Thanks.

According to information obtained and published by Senator Tom Coburn, Customs and Border Protection [CBP] purchased 36,475,000 rounds of ammunition at a cost of $12,255,040 for fiscal year 2012. CBP plans to purchase more for fiscal year 2013 at a cost of $12,528,146. In total, DHS plans to spend $37,263,698 on ammunition for all sub-agencies this year. As of November, 20, 2012, CBP had 94,404,329 rounds of ammunition in its inventory. DHS had 263,733,362 rounds available.

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KEYWORDS: ammunitionshortage; banglist; borderpatrol; borderpatrolammo; borderwars; dhs
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To: PowderMonkey

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3004449/posts

The article says they will have( just )enough for qual


41 posted on 04/05/2013 7:00:45 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's being stockpiled for when the government really needs it.

Or it's being transferred to the Mexican cartels in exchange for "donations" to the DNC. I lived in Chicago long enough to see this as a distinct possibility.

42 posted on 04/05/2013 7:04:18 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: EXCH54FE

Why does the gov’t need hollow point ammo for target practice and qualifying tests?


43 posted on 04/05/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by TSA-Watch
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To: EXCH54FE

There isn’t a shortage. DHS is simply stocking up and not letting it go.


44 posted on 04/05/2013 7:06:18 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: dblshot
So 150 rounds a month isn't a lot to maintain proficiency.

They were only receiving 150 rounds per quarter not per month. Fortunately most agents maintain their own stockpile in reserve because they know that DHS can't be trusted to have their back.

45 posted on 04/05/2013 7:06:45 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: EXCH54FE

oh this is nothing , we gave a lot of guns and ammo to the cartels and the Govt keeps over a billion and a half for itself and that;s all what counts.

Well OK the white house being closed for Michelle bama and her freeloading family can have their parties, concerts, cocktails and celebrations in our house also counts as priority


46 posted on 04/05/2013 7:15:32 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Mouton

protecting the white house from school kids being allowed in , I mean how dare the public go in our own house which we pay for while the obama’s royal family have their parties you know.


47 posted on 04/05/2013 7:17:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: EXCH54FE
This has been going on for 6 years or better. Maybe a few ammunition company execs need to be hauled before congress to explain why they aren't opening new production facilities.

The answers would be good for all to hear.

48 posted on 04/05/2013 7:18:18 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: TSA-Watch
Why does the gov’t need hollow point ammo for target practice and qualifying tests?

They train with what they duty carry. Back when they caried 357s the DOJ tried to save money by only purchasing 38 wad cutters for quals and proficiency. At then end of the qual they would give you 5 actual 357 rounds to shoot.

Needles to say the performance of the 38 wad cutters vs the 357 was completely different rendering the qualifications useless.

49 posted on 04/05/2013 7:21:35 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: EXCH54FE

Well according to this article Border Patrol has around 94,000,000 rounds. We were burning through about 55 million per month in Iraq in a hot war so unless they are planning on killing a chitload of illegals 94 million rounds should be plenty.


50 posted on 04/05/2013 7:23:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Sooth2222

I was drooling thinking it was all ammo!


51 posted on 04/05/2013 7:39:48 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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52 posted on 04/05/2013 7:47:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: EXCH54FE

Big Sis is hoarding it.


53 posted on 04/05/2013 7:53:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Sooth2222

**They might as well try passing laws against earthquakes and hurricanes. **

I believe they are trying to!


54 posted on 04/05/2013 8:04:40 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Heck, are they even allowed to shoot at BG’s?


55 posted on 04/05/2013 8:10:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EXCH54FE
ammunition shortage? how about we import some from china?
56 posted on 04/05/2013 8:11:36 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: EXCH54FE

DHS won’t let the border patrol shoot at anyone anyway, so why bother with ammo.


57 posted on 04/05/2013 8:12:08 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: EXCH54FE

ammo shortage? haven’t they heard?
all those reports of massive govt buys were false

/eye-rolling-sarcasm


58 posted on 04/05/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Strategerist
DHS hasn't ordered billions of rounds of ammunition and they have no plans to do so.

Of the thousands of articles, blog posts, and FR posts on this, all but basically two of them have been completely wrong. I can't emphasize this enough. The thousands of false articles and posts have created an alternate reality which is impossible to combat.

The replies to this thread alone must be driving you nuts.

59 posted on 04/05/2013 8:18:12 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: EXCH54FE

I believe that the Obama administration is up to something
extremely dastardly. If they can’t disarm the citizens
outright then they intend to limit the supply of arms any
way they can. But for what reason? Are they planing to do
something that the vast majority of the people will not
accept? I think Obama is getting ready to “fundamentally”
change America totally and intentionally against the will
of it’s people. It is looking like he’s baiting Ding Dong Un
into catalyzing the event.


60 posted on 04/05/2013 9:09:55 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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