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Arctic Going Green from Warming, Study Finds
Yahoo ^ | 4/3/13 | Tia Ghose, LiveScience

Posted on 04/04/2013 11:42:05 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Large swaths of the Arctic tundra will be warm enough to support lush vegetation and trees by 2050, suggests a new study.

Higher temperatures will lessen snow cover, according to the study, which is detailed in the March 31 issue of the journal Nature Climate Change. That, in turn, will decrease the sunlight reflected back into the atmosphere and increase warming. About half the areas will see vegetation change, and areas currently populated by shrubs may find woody trees taking their place.

"Substitute the snowy surface with the darker surface of a coniferous tree, and the darker surface stores more heat," said study co-author Pieter Beck, a vegetative ecologist at the Woods Hole Research Center in Massachusetts. "It's going to exacerbate warming."

Warming Arctic

The Arctic climate affects the world: Changes in sea ice affect ocean circulation, which, in turn, affects atmospheric circulation that then impacts the globe, said Bruce Forbes, a geographer at the Arctic Center at the University of Lapland in Finland, who was not involved in the study.

(Excerpt) Read more at weather.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: arctic; climatechange; globalwarming; green; study; warming
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To: Ramius

Yeah, you and your stinkn’ science. What has science got to do with global warming?


21 posted on 04/04/2013 12:16:44 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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22 posted on 04/04/2013 12:16:50 PM PDT by tomkat
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23 posted on 04/04/2013 12:17:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NormsRevenge

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24 posted on 04/04/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by lurk
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To: NormsRevenge

Global warming will cause longer growing seasons and more land to become arable as the permafrost belt retreats, resulting in increased food production. But count on the liberal/leftists to argue that increased food production will lead to more obesity.


25 posted on 04/04/2013 12:39:17 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, it will happen in 2050, in fact it will happen every year leading up to 2050. Up here in Alaska, we call it spring.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 12:53:12 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Once that nasty old ice is gone they can dig into the ground and reveal the fossilized remains of the tropical plants that once grew there.

They date from even before Fred and Barney were driving around in their SUV’s made of logs and Stone.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 1:17:30 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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The vast boreal forests bordering the tundra are already lush and green. If they were to advance northward it would be a beneficial development for the environment as a whole. Too bad it is highly unlikely to happen. This ridiculous screed is, as usual, based on a “computer” model, custom made to deliver the desired outcome. It is not based on any data at all.


28 posted on 04/04/2013 1:19:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NormsRevenge

Come 2050, the heat mongers will move the date up to 2080, ad infinitum.


29 posted on 04/04/2013 1:29:29 PM PDT by pallis
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I was kind of under the impression that the tundra was made up of tons of dead plant matter (kind of like a frozen bog). If it is bad and unprecedented, then how did all of that plant matter get there in the first place?


30 posted on 04/04/2013 1:30:56 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: alancarp
Love how they concentrate on the small differences in the northern hemisphere.

The heck with the southern hemisphere. I visit Mt. Shasta here in California a lot, almost annually. The snowpack is growing. Mt. Shasta glaciers are growing in California. Two Mt. Shasta glaciers have doubled in size since 1950 (Hotlum and Wintun). Glaciers are also growing in Alaska and Washington state. Those evil lib global warmer liars conveniently ignore the big differences happening in our own back yards.

31 posted on 04/04/2013 2:03:48 PM PDT by roadcat
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32 posted on 04/04/2013 7:09:22 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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33 posted on 04/04/2013 7:14:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, they did grow crops in Greenland, during the MWP (medieval warm period).
I do not recall any reports of the earth drowning then.
The MWP, however, was replaced by the LIA (little ice age).


34 posted on 04/04/2013 7:25:12 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: alancarp
Sea ice in the southern hemisphere is ahead of the multi-year averages... by a larger margin than the northern `deficiency.' In other words, globally speaking (and the enviros all want us to `think globally'), we've got more sea ice than normal.

No. See first chart at http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

35 posted on 04/05/2013 7:07:48 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: hinckley buzzard
This ridiculous screed is, as usual, based on a "computer" model, custom made to deliver the desired outcome. It is not based on any data at all.

That is correct. More likely the increase in open water (caused by ocean warmth, not air warmth) will result in increased snowfall which will not melt but instead push the forests further south.

36 posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:06 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer
Actually, yes: on that same website (which was my source also), see these charts:

Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly: currently .435 million sq. km below normal
Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly: currently .919 million sq. km above normal.

Since .919 > .435, we are indeed above normal. I believe that the red trace on the chart you cited indicates the same point.

37 posted on 04/05/2013 7:49:27 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp
Ok, the plot does show we are a bit above normal. But the trend of that curve (the one in red) http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg is down.
38 posted on 04/05/2013 9:51:14 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer
Only for the past ~ten years - and my point is that we're still at/near normal levels. Were the "findings" of that study valid, you'd expect continually receding levels year over year (i.e., you gotta keep the ice out of the same land areas for multiple years to support "forests"). That's clearly not happening, as the data shows.... at least for the ocean ice.
39 posted on 04/05/2013 10:46:11 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
study co-author Pieter Beck, a vegetative ecologist at the Woods Hole Research Center in Massachusetts.

Don't know about now, but way back when I was selling them instrumentation, these guys would do or say anything for grant money.

40 posted on 04/05/2013 10:52:09 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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