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Jews and guns
jewishjournal.com ^ | 8 August, 2012 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 04/02/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by marktwain

It is a given among liberal and progressive Jews that gun ownership among the general population is a bad thing. The ideal is near-universal disarmament with only a handful of individual exceptions and, of course, the police.

The majority of Americans have the opposite view. They believe that gun ownership is a fundamental American right, and that the more law-abiding Americans who own guns, the safer the society. This view is so widely held — even among many Democrats — that few Democratic politicians take anti-gun positions.

Like the great majority of American Jews I grew up in a home with no guns, no hunting, no target shooting or any other use of guns. Moreover, no one I knew had a gun or even knew how to use one. Diaspora Jewish culture is almost pacifist. And the general Jewish view is that non-Jews play with guns, not us Jews. A home with guns is as foreign to a Jewish liberal as gefilte fish is to a Mississippi Baptist.

Over the course of my lifetime I have come to side with the majority of Americans. I would hope that Jews are open to rethinking what has become, like most liberal beliefs, an essentially religious position.

I support gun ownership for two reasons — one American and the other Jewish.

First, I have come to admire the American value of the armed citizen. It is part of the great American value of independence and self-reliance. If I am armed, I can better protect myself, my loved ones and my neighbors.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; holocaust; jews; secondamendment
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Dennis Prager does a very good job with this article. It deserves a wider readership.
1 posted on 04/02/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 04/02/2013 7:54:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
While it may be true that in liberal progressive Jewish families Guns are thought to be the enemy, I suspect that is true of all liberal progressive homes.

I also suspect that in conservative Jewish homes, Guns in the hands of only the political parties are viewed as enabling the Holocaust. Just like in gentile conservative homes. Some people read history books...

A couple of hand guns did rather well in the Warsaw Ghetto's. Quite a few Nazi's did not live for another day of Jew hunting. And because of the delays in their master plan, some Jews escaped alive.

3 posted on 04/02/2013 8:02:11 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SJackson

Thought you might appreciate Prager’s article.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 8:02:21 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: marktwain

It’s unfortunate that the Jews of pre-WWII Europe didn’t have an American-style “gun culture,” complete with gun clubs and advocacy groups, gun shows, target ranges, periodicals geared to shooters and gun collectors, and so forth.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 8:17:42 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ
Sorry for repeating, but...

NAZI GUN-CONTROL MADE THE HOLOCAUST POSSIBLE.

If American Christians and Jews want to be shot and fall into the graves they just dug, gun-control is a good way to insure that future. There are 8 million witnesses — may they rest in peace.

6 posted on 04/02/2013 8:20:15 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: marktwain

American liberals think like Nazis, but they are, individually and in groups, psychologically incapable of carrying out the murderous goals of the Nazis. They are weak, effiminate, campy sheep who will run at the first sign of a fight.

This is why, IMO, they are sucking up to the Muslim murderers. They need a surrogate army to carry out the attempted genocide of conservatives and patriots that they themselves don’t have the guts to do themselves.

And they completely lack the intellect to see the danger of giving murderous Muslims the power of life and death over them. Their last emotion as they are led to the Islam chopping block for beheading will be one of utter shock that they were wrong.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 8:26:45 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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I disagree. Give them the safety of numbers, the identity protection of a uniform, and the power of law and they would be just as murderous as any liberal group in history.

The would do it for the children, they would do it for the unempowered, they would do it for the fun of watching thier enemies suffer. But like all tyrants, the will only do it if they don’t feel their personal safety in endangered, thus the Second Amendment.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 8:35:58 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Taft in '52

They had guns, but not the will to use them. Do we have the will?


9 posted on 04/02/2013 8:38:01 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: dangerdoc

Yep. Americans in uniform are capable. Not our military necessarily, but those with new uniforms like those worn by DHS might fit the bill.


10 posted on 04/02/2013 8:42:21 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: American in Israel
Unfortunately, the liberal progressives occupy key positions in government. This from Wikipedia on arguably the most rabid anti-gun member of congress, Tomas Peter Lantos. A Hungarian Jew in Budapest at the time of the Nazi occupation:

"Lantos remembered this period and a newspaper headline he read when he was only 10, "Hitler Marches into Austria." Even at a young age, he understood the significance of this invasion: "I sensed that this historic moment would have a tremendous impact on the lives of Hungarian Jews, my family, and myself." Six years later, in March 1944, the German military invaded Hungary and occupied Budapest, its capital. Lantos, then 16, was arrested because he was Jewish and sent to a forced labor camp outside of Budapest. He escaped but was soon caught by the Germans and beaten severely, to be returned to the labor camp. He again escaped but this time made his way back to Budapest, 40 miles away. There, he hid with an aunt in a safe house set up by Raoul Wallenberg, a Swedish diplomat."

Incredibly, despite his virulently anti Second Amendment position, I saw him interviewed on the History Channel as he recounted his days under Nazi occupation, and declared "The Nazis had all the guns. We had nothing. We could do nothing." Some people never learn.

11 posted on 04/02/2013 9:03:51 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Speaking of Jews with guns, howzabout some pics of those Israeli reservist girls in bikinis with their M-4s?


12 posted on 04/02/2013 9:18:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Speaking of Jews with guns, howzabout some pics of those Israeli reservist girls in bikinis with their M-4s?


13 posted on 04/02/2013 9:19:38 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

Oopsie....


14 posted on 04/02/2013 9:20:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: marktwain

Good read - there are more than a few of us Jewish gun owners out there...


15 posted on 04/02/2013 9:28:13 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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16 posted on 04/02/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: dangerdoc

You’re confusing a mob with a disciplined military unit.

American liberals are not even close to the German liberals of the 1930s in any manner or form. Those Germans had a martial philosophy and upbringing since youth. American liberals have a background in hating guns, wearing mascara and wimpering servitude to feminists.

America’s warrior class is found in the military and gun culture. You won’t find it in a womyn’s study professor. Giving a sniveling, crawling maggot a uniform doesn’t make him a warrior.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 9:36:23 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: andy58-in-nh

A little underexposed. Check your f/ stop.

;^)


18 posted on 04/02/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: PowderMonkey
Some people never learn...

Oh he learned alright. He moved into a position of Government so he could be the Nazi this time and control other people guns. You don't see him advocating gun control for Government do you.

19 posted on 04/02/2013 12:26:50 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: sergeantdave

Picture south african mobs putting someones head in a tire and burning it.

It doesn’t take a martial bearing, it takes hate and a lack of respect for human life. They have that in spades.


20 posted on 04/02/2013 12:27:31 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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