Posted on 04/01/2013 6:12:17 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
At a joint press conference with NASA earlier today, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said the company will try a water landing of its Falcon 9 first stage later year.
The landing will be the start of a series of flight tests that could culminate with an attempted propulsive landing of a first stage back at its launch site in the middle of 2014, Musk said.
During the initial test, the first stage will continue on a ballistic arc and execute a velocity reduction burn to cushion its re-entry into the atmosphere, the SpaceX chief said. Just before splashdown, the rocket will light up its engines again.
Musk said he expected to lose first stages during the initial recovery attempts. The company is looking to gain the experience and data needed to bring a first stage back to the launch site next year for a propulsive landing using retractable legs. He said that attempt could occur in mid-2014.
SpaceX also plans to unveil upgraded versions of the Falcon 9 and its Dragon freighter later this year. The improved rocket includes more powerful engines, longer fuel tanks and a number of significant upgrades that will improve its capability by 60 to 70 percent, Musk said.
Dragon version 2 will be able to carry more cargo and include larger windows for use in later crewed versions of the vehicle. The upgraded Dragon also will feature powerful, side-mounted thruster pods as well as retractable landing legs that will allow for propulsive touchdowns on land.
Musk expects that water landings will become a thing of the past, and that touching down on land will allow the company to conduct missions at a more rapid pace. He did not give any timetable for the first ground landing attempt.
The SpaceX CEO made his remarks during a post-mission press conference for the recently completed Dragon resupply mission to the International Space Station. Joining Musk at the event were SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, and International Space Station Program Scientist Julie Robinson.
A full synopsis of the press conference is below.
Opening Remarks
Bolden: •We’re really pleased at working together that SpaceX and NASA teams were able to berth at station and return safely
•Importance of the commercial cargo program and how critical it is for the ISS program
•Orbital Sciences is other COTS partner – set for a test flight of Antares rocket in April
Shotwell:
•Three successful missions in three months –
•First operational mission with Dragon trunk – grapple bars
•A number of technological demonstrations on this mission
•Dragon back in port in Long Beach last night at about 7 p.m.
•All systems remain powered and NASA received all critical cargo
•Returned 3,256 lbs. of cargo – 200 lbs. more than originally planned
Musk:
•Had an issue with Dragon spacecraft briefly
•Slight issue with propellant test valve
•Fixed within four or five hours
•No further issues after that point
•We don’t expect to see that issue again
Robinson:
•Over 200 scientific investigations ongoing on ISS
•Variety of different types of experiments
•300 tubes of blood – studying interaction between nutrition and bone loss — applications for osteoporosis treatment
•Experiment looking at alloy mixtures – launched on Dragon and returned
•Agriculture education, commercial activities
•Samples are on the ground, researchers are beginning to look at them
Q&A Session
Q. When is next CRS launch?
Shotwell: CRS 3 launch late this fall. A number of upgrades to the Dragon configuration that will enable better critical cargo to be sent and returned.
Musk: Will include upgraded Falcon 9. Could increase the useful payload of Dragon by several tons. As much as you could pack into Dragon.
Will attempt to recover the first stage.
“As I said before, I think it will take us several flights before we are successful in that.”
Q. Fairing test status at NASA Plum Brook?
Musk: NASA Plum Brook is an “really, epic super cool” facility
Prepping to do separate tests. Will be releasing information on it in the next few weeks.
Q. Are you optimistic about Orbital Sciences tests going on as scheduled?
Bolden: “Yes”
Q. When will Dragon be ready for human spaceflight and are they still on track for 2015?
Musk: “Things seem to be going very well.” Hitting milestones and hope to do pad abort tests later this year. “It’s coming along really well.” Partnership with NASA is going very well.
Bolden: All of our partners are making very good progress and making their milestones under CCiCAP agreements. The partners are also involved in developing certification process and showing they meet the requirements that are laid out.
NASA is the long pole in the tent. Hope to put out an RFP next spring with down select for providers in Fall 2014. Depends upon how generous Congress is with funding the program.
Q. What was the problem with the thrusters on Dragon?
Musk: There was a “very tiny change” to three of the check valves on the oxidizer tank. Different from the previous ones that flew, and they got stuck. Was able to write some new software in real time that was uploaded with Dragon to increase pressure upstream from check valve and release it. The spacecraft version of the Heimlich maneuver. Once they got unstuck, they worked very well.
Had difficulty communicating with the spacecraft because it was drifting. Worked with the Air Force to get higher powered dishes to communicate with Dragon and upload the software.
Q. How will sequestration affect commercial crew?
Bolden: As we projected, sequestration has a detrimental impact on the commercial crew program by reducing the amount of money available for partners. Don’t see an impact for the rest of this fiscal year (ends September 30), but it will have an impact down the road unless NASA gets more funding.
Q. What is long-term solution for Dragon thruster problem?
Musk: The software uploaded was to get the valve unstuck. We need to fix this tiny little issue with the valve, reverting it to was it used to be. Will do some checks to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Q. What is strategy on booster recover?
Musk: Initial recovery test will be a water landing. First stage continue in ballistic arc and execute a velocity reduction burn before it enters atmosphere to lessen impact. Right before splashdown, will light up the engine again. Emphasizes that we don’t expect success in the first several attempts. Hopefully next year with more experience and data, we should be able to return the first stage to the launch site and do a propulsion landing on land using legs.
Q. Is there a flight identified for return to launch site of the booster?
Musk: No. Will probably be the middle of next year.
Q. What are long term effects of sequestration?
Bolden: We don’t see an impact for the rest of 2013 calendar year because we ended up with more money than expected in commercial crew. Already discussing delays in commercial crew milestones with partners. Sequestration is a 10-year program that was never supposed to be executed.
Q. What was Bolden’s reaction to SpaceX’s solution to the propulsion problem?
Bolden: Incredible to watch their young, energetic team work through the propulsion anomaly.
Musk: SpaceX and NASA teams are deeply integrated and working closely with each other. It’s great to work with NASA. NASA was so cool, I was far more anxious than NASA was. We have one cool customer.
Q. On the check valve problem, you characterized it as a tiny issue. Was it a manufacturing or a configuration question?
Musk: It was a tiny design revision change from the supplier. The supplier made some mistakes and we didn’t catch those mistakes. Ran system through low pressurization tests, but didn’t run them through the high presssurization functionality tests. Didn’t get stuck in the low pressurization functionality tests. Make sure we don’t repeat that in the future. Need a magnifying glass to see the difference.
Q. How is upgraded Falcon 9 different from the current version?
Musk: Next version is a meaningful upgrade. Has 60 to 70 percent more capability. Improved redundancy, structure, engines, avionics, etc. This version is designed to allow first stage to land propulsively back at the landing site. Will take at least a year to get that right.
Shotwell: Performance changes are more than rocket changes, but translate into an improvement for scientific community. Can bring up more powered cargo, refrigerators, etc.
Musk: Dragon version 2 will be a significant upgrade, with the capability to land propulsively on land. Water landings will become a thing of the past. Will allow for missions at a faster tempo.
Q. Can you provide more details on Dragon Version 2?
Musk: Significant upgrades, powerful side mounted thruster pods. Quite big windows for astronauts to see outside. Landing legs that pop out of the bottom. It look like kind of a real alien spaceship. Started with landing on water because it was the easiest thing to do and we didn’t really know what we were doing. Didn’t want to take any unnecessary risks. Now want to push the envelope on the technology.
Plan to unveil Dragon Version 2 later this year.
Final Comments
Shotwell: Thanks all the SpaceXers for all the hard work they put in. Thanks NASA as both a partner and customer, extraordinary relationship with them. Thanks the Air Force, FAA and FCC.
Robinson: A real consolidation between commercial transport and the use of ISS for commercial research. All these things are going hand in hand, and they’re bringing results back to the U.S. economy.
This is exciting.
It also opens up private ventures in asteroid mining. If AM could be commercialized, that would honestly eliminate resource shortages in all areas.
And they can start by mining the asteroids that are coming AT us!
You mean like this on....
How about a flight where the engines work correctly or they at least reach the planned orbit on schedule before they start touting to be the best.
Compared to nasa I think they are doing great.
No better way to figure out what doesn't work than to break things.
Beats heck out of the US military procurement fix-then-fly with everchanging specs that cost trillions.
/johnny
Privatized space exploration has done more in the last 5 years than NASA has done since it last landed on the moon.
Oh yeah, Nasa doesn't actually have a way to orbit with something that can be man-rated anymore. They spent all their money on theoretical studies instead of hardware.
/johnny
NASA was doing what they’re doing 40 years ago.
The landing model they are talking about is a copy of what NASA was doing 20 yrs ago and the craft looks almost identical so they were probably given a lot of data.
Sure glad our tax dollars are paying for this politically connected company.
Yeah they barely made their orbit the last trip. Quite a triumph.
Yes NASA doesnt have a way to put a man into orbit, neither does SpaceX. Despite Obama taking all the NASA money and giving it to SPACEX.
Have they had any failures as bad as these yet?
NASA has basically stalled in space exploration. At least the privateers are making steady progress at a faster clip, than what NASA has been doing.
Your criticism will only be considered valid, if they don’t move beyond what NASA has done.
Yeah imagine that, rockets were just being invented and things went wrong. WOW
60 years later they can’t make their orbits.
Why do you guys celebrate this Obama bundler getting these sweet deals?
Not hard to move beyond something that was stopped when their budget was pulled. Oh and they are forced to help you and to accommodate you.
Amazing how that works.
Perhaps NASA should have considered commercializing their services sooner, eh?
That way they wouldn’t be held hostage to government funding.
Its not commercial (aka free market) when the govt pays for it.
The landing model they are talking about is a copy of what NASA was doing 20 yrs ago and the craft looks almost identical so they were probably given a lot of data.
Sure glad our tax dollars are paying for this politically connected company.
From my understanding, they investigated and settled on designs that NASA rejected decades ago. NASA was not doing this 20 years ago, they were choosing not to do this, and went with the ultimately more expensive shuttle design. SpaceX has taken the design and is making a lot of progress in a short amount of time. Would you prefer that the cheapest access to space be from Chinese rockets?
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