Skip to comments.Full war declaration statement from DPRK (via KCNA):
Posted on 03/29/2013 10:05:56 PM PDT by Kartographer
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Survival kit contents check. In them youll find:
- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.
Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
I could never figure out how the Russian phrase book would be helpful in Vegas, especially then...the other stuff...maybe!
There have been American and South Korean kiss ups, negotiations and aid or trade deals with the Norks for years.
The old style Nixon-Kissinger detente is the wrong answer to them.
The communist economy of NK can’t survive unless it is propped up by other countries.
I hope real sanctions are finally kicking in on them because the Nork system may slowly be forced into collapse just like the USSR was.
North Korea’s government is crazy, they’ve used assassination squads, bombs, kidnapping whatever to advance their agenda.
We’ll have to wait and see.
The Korean War in 1950 started early on a Sunday morning (4AM). That was Saturday afternoon our time.
He has correctly determined that the US, with this degenerate CINC calling the shots and doing everything possible to weaken the US military, won't defend South Korea.
This was predictable from the second the Kenyan was reelected by the retarded American electorate, and is just the beginning of multiple incursions against the USA by enemies foreign and domestic.
It's the reason why the Founders didn't put a right to vote in the Constitution and specifically stated only NBC could be POTUS.
This is the beginning of the end.
Yes, the family member was on duty at that air base. Actually there were two family members there and one was in charge of the base. If there is war, that air base is in trouble and some of our guys will likely die and surely will if a nuclear bomb is dropped.
This is no laughing matter. And, what will Hussein do? He probably doesn't know about this declaration of war if it just came out because he is asleep - again.
At least in this declaration, I didn't see Austin, Texas, mentioned as a target like it was earlier today.
“If they drop a nuclear bomb on South Korea, seems to me it would destroy North Korea, too, if only by fallout.”
The effects of nuclear fallouts are way over exaggerated. Sure, you don’t want to breath the stuff in, but it doesn’t last forever like in the doomsday movies.
You should maybe go with me to Las Vegas in the wintertime when the wind is strong and the dust is harsh.
I would take you to good places where girls speak good Russian... and get you there cheap... you can ride in my cab...
Dude... The only thing I ask when I hit a town is who owns it... I'll figure out the culture and the language.
Or which one I want to deal with.
Hell, my grandchildren are Cambodian. Try learning a tonal language after you go deef.
We won't nuke them and we are not prepared to lose our kids to defend the South Koreans against North Korean communists when we are pretty much communist ourselves due to the imposition of Universal Suffrage.
Warnings have been going out on this forum for years.
Chickens are coming home to roost.
I think that it’s worrisome that this weekend is Easter Sunday. Think Yom Kippur. They may think that we will all be in church (unfortunately, very mistaken). It’s fairly close to a full moon, they have no good night vision stuff (at least not in any quantity), and we do. So, it’s actually a more even playing field for a low-tech aggressor to have the moon.
Also, sadly, I think the troops we have on that border are somewhat sacrificial, a trip wire, and they know this.
This has got to be the toughest assignment in the military.
I wonder where the Chinese are on this. Their boy is getting a little out of control. I’m sure that he was amusing for a while...now...not so funny.
But we are not talking about two separate countries - the only dividing line is basically a line in the sand. One side N. Korea, one side S. Korea.
“But we are not talking about two separate countries - the only dividing line is basically a line in the sand. One side N. Korea, one side S. Korea.”
If a nuke landed right on top of your house and you were safe underground in an appropriate shelter, you’d be able to walk out, probably for short periods of time, within the first week or two. I forget how long it takes until it is totally safe, but it isn’t very long. So maybe you’ll get cancer in 30 years. Boo Hoo! You’re not in a hole forever, and you probably would have gotten it anyway. Man up!
Sorry, that is just hyperbole. To see how absurd your assertion is, check the dead stats for the workers at Chernobyl.
OK, YOU go over there and let the guys over there now come home. Won’t be a problem for you, dodge the bullets, regular bombs, and eat the nuclear bomb.
Me, I’ll pray for the guys over there.
Secretary of state John Kerry will visit the region in a week or so for meetings with Japan, China and South Korea, the State Department said.
Sounds like the USSA intends to send a couple of battalions of homosexuals and bull dykes against the NK's and then blame the GOP when the south falls.
Lt Col Catherine Wilkinson and John Kerry, talk about lightweights.
If you think I am lying, just look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima today.
Hmmmm....maybe I could take a speed boat over to NK and provoke them with a good ... full ... MOON!!!??? :)
You just signed up here last month, newbie. You are expendable, so yes, you man up and go to S. Korea and face down the bullets, and regular bombs, and nuclear bomb.
“All I know is that all the cities they threatened to target are bastions of liberalism.”
No, this declaration of war reads entirely differently than the list of targets that came out earlier today - that was reporting but this is a written declaration of war and those cities are not on there. They may be targets but they aren’t listed on this declaration of war. Some countries are listed in this document.
“Sorry, that is just hyperbole. To see how absurd your assertion is, check the dead stats for the workers at Chernobyl.”
It is NOT hyperbole. The fact that it is so deadly if you are directly exposed to it is because of the fact it is breaking down at such a high speed. But the fact is you’re already exposed to “dangerous” radiation in the environment 24/7:
“But before we shed too many tears for the poor fellow who was struck by one of these particles of radiation, it should be pointed out that every person in the world is struck by about 15,000 of these particles of radiation every second of his or her life,2 and this is true for every person who has ever lived and for every person who ever will live. These particles, totalling 500 billion per year, or 40 trillion in a lifetime, are from natural sources. In addition, our technology has introduced new sources of radiation like medical X-rays a typical X-ray bombards us with over a trillion particles of radiation.
Your body can handle a certain level of radiation exposure everyday before getting sick. As long as you remain below it, you’re fine, though there are bad side-effects for the future, well, the same side-effects you can expect at any time.
FYI, lots of survivors of the A-BOMB attack in Japan, and you would expect them to all be dead and the place uninhabitable. I think they have a monument built right on the crater now.
The No-Nukes crowd really pulled a number on a lot of people.
Sorry to do this to you... but I need to let the supervisor watching you know that you screwed up the plural of fallout.
Singular is 'fallout'. Plural is 'fallout'.
No 's' at the end is required.
I hope your supervisors don't execute you.
I'd feel bad.
For a minute.
I noticed that, too, but he's a newbie so what can you expect.
Oh, get serious. You’ve been taken in by No-Nukes propaganda and are not making me the bad guy because I know for a fact that even if a Nuke landed in your freakin yard, as long as you were within appropriate cover (the walls have to be a certain level of thickness to impede the radiation passing through), within a couple of weeks you’ll be walking around. Within a few months, the only “fallout” that will be around will be the fallout of the damage done to city.
No such thing as an eternal wasteland destroying countries forever and ever.
Sure, it ain’t pretty, and cancer later in life isn’t fun, assuming you were heavily exposed, and even in places like Colorado where the freakin soil has Uranium in it, the cancer rate is actually below average there.
It’s not healthy, but it’s not doomsday.
And one more bit for the grist: whatever turned the Twin Towers to dust in midair so that they did not fall as more than a million tons of debris on the bathtub holding the Hudson River out of the Manhattan real estate is likely poised to be used if NK even tries to launch a nuclear strike across the ocean or the North Polar route.
I don't see you packing your bag yet and running over there so our guys can come home. It would only take one of you to face down what's coming at our guys. And, newbie, I'm old enough to be two of you and know twice as much as both of you.
You're invited Johnny, to reply to this newbie who apparently loves “the bomb”.
Another more literate one will be along in a bit, if they keep working to the plan.
Not that I've seen this before or anything.
And I'm really not trying to be grumpy. I'm trying to be pleasant. For certain values of nice.
There’s a difference between a nuclear STRIKE that ejects a lot of material into the atmosphere that disperses and dissipates in danger over time, and something like Chernobyl where you have a huge concentration of it just producing more and more. But I’ve read studies that have shown that animals live in the area just fine, with no apparent zombie apocalypse.
Sure, maybe in the HOLE, you don’t want to sit in it. But even the crater itself will eventually be safe to build your house on it and dance all day and night.
“The mixture of radioactive elements formed in a nuclear explosion is so
complex, with both short- and long-lasting isotopes, that radioactive decay
can only be estimated. During the first hour after a nuclear explosion,
radioactivity levels drop precipitously. Radioactivity levels are further reduced by about 90% after
another 7 hours and by about 99% after 2 days.”
I’ve read that it is actually more than 2 days, for all the other particles that take a bit longer to decrease, as the timeline is usually about a week, and at that only going above ground for a few hours at a time. It’s best to wait it out for a couple of weeks, and the full effects, admittedly, might take months or even a year or so, but quite frankly you could get the same dosages of radiation just traveling around the country experiencing all the Earth has to offer.
Have any “Black” left? Pardon, while I get an adult beverage to match your Black - I’m not sleepy.
It is less than ten minutes to three AM here. I think I’ll just go to bed and leave you to yopur magic thinking/propagandizing ways. Have nice day
So everyone, get ready!
Sh!t is about to get real.
And he would watch it like this. Smoking.
“I don’t see you packing your bag yet and running over there so our guys can come home. “
Hey butthead, I wasn’t even talking about our military men. I was talking about a nuclear strike on North Korea and the fact it is not going to make life uninhabitable in South Korea, even if the bloody cloud comes right into SK. The fallout is dangerous only temporarily, it is limited only to within the path of the cloud, and those within it easily solve it by taking cover, even if it is not a full scale underground shelter. Just about anything that covers you from the outside world is going to lower your exposure. Stay inside, wait for it to pass, South Korea will be there the next day, and the next year, and forever after.
But you guys want to make me a bad guy just because you’re all lost in antiquated No-Nuke propaganda.
It is a little-known piece of trivia that the dialogue you quote from Slim Pickens in Stangelove originally was: “Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff. Then the Kennedy assassination happened about the time the film was to be released, and they dubbed “Vegas” over Slim Pickens’ original “Dallas,” so as not to offend the populace.
If you watch the film when he says this, you can see that his lips are saying “Dallas”, but the sound was overdubbed to “Vegas”.
In a nuclear detonation all the energy is released in a fraction of a second and most of the harsher radiation is gone after 1-2 years.
There you go again with a culturally incorrect phrase.
The US isn't the UK. I can swear effectively in the Queen's English, as well as American English. NCOs (real ones) and cooks can do that.
But dude, you aren't helping yourself with your supervisors who have to be watching by now.
Thanks for your input. So, Puny Humans, who called me a “Butthead”, would be in serious radiation immediately and radiation will be his buddy for one to two years. That sounds good, so when is newbie Punny Humans leaving for this healthy climate he will be in if a nuclear bomb blows up?
Slim Pickens was a favorite of mine. Especially in 'Blazing Saddles' I'm not sure he said anything politically correct outside of "I think you boys have had enough".
I heard a report today that we will be moving some/all? of our troops out of Okinawa. Less reason for NK to bomb Japan??
I love to meet other folks who love trivia as much as I do! Strangelove has lots of good stuff.
I was trying to think of the name, “Dr. Strangelove” early on in this thread. Great minds think alike.
“Thanks for your input. So, Puny Humans, who called me a Butthead, would be in serious radiation immediately and radiation will be his buddy for one to two years. That sounds good, so when is newbie Punny Humans leaving for this healthy climate he will be in if a nuclear bomb blows up?”
Guess what! You live with radiation EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE. And radiation from a nuclear attack is NOT going to kill you after waiting things out for a certain amount of time.
“Radioactive fallout from a nuclear explosion, though very dangerous initially, loses its intensity quickly because it is giving off so much energy. For example, fallout emitting gamma ray radiation at a rate over 500 R/hr (fatal with one hour of exposure) shortly after an explosion, weakens to only 1/10th as strong 7 hours later. Two days later, it’s only 1/100th as strong, or as deadly, as it was initially.”
And please stop insulting me as if I am inviting a nuclear attack on the United States. My reply was to concerns that nuking North Korea would destroy the South.
You are such a handsome “young” man. I was teaching elementary school when I heard about JFK, then, after school, went to and IRS audit. The IRS guy and I were both subdued and neither one was interested in the reason he came there. Was something about the way a rent house I had was dealt with on that return. I got info. from a Realtor before I did that return, so that's why it was that way. I don't remember what happened about that because it wasn't that important.
His peons are probably thinking, “please kill us and put us out of our misery”.
You need glasses.
“And please stop insulting me as if I am inviting a nuclear attack on the United States”
I have not said that anywhere. However, you did say if a nuke landed on top of my house... and my house is in the USA. I said nothing about a bomb in the US. Newbies tend to get mixed up as well as call people names like “Butthead”. Names like that will come back to bite you. You need to have some respect for your elders.
“I heard a report today that we will be moving some/all? of our troops out of Okinawa.”
That declaration of war lists Guam as a target. I wonder what Japan is thinking?
There are three main types of radiation you need to worry about in a nuclear accident, alpha and beta radiation can be stopped by almost any solid material and the risk here is from breathing in radioactive dust. The next is gamma and the majority of this disappears in 100 days.
singular is “fallout” plerual is “fallout”
Pastpluperfect is “fellout”
“I have not said that anywhere. However, you did say if a nuke landed on top of my house...”
So you deny you’re making the accusation, and then you straight out make it again. I used it as an example that even on the point of impact, you’re not going to be doomed for all eternity. And then consider the way the fallout actually disperses! If even the initial strike area is going to be OK (except if you happened to be standing outside when it struck and not in a shelter) over time, and even within the next couple of weeks, then it stands to follow that fallout for places even nearby will be manageable and not the end of the world.
I’m not sure why you guys got so hostile to begin with. Maybe I shouldn’t have made lite of the long term effects, which, by the way, you are susceptible to even just walking around (we are bombarded by radiation constantly. In fact, I’ve even known friends who freaked out that a dirty bomb went off because they detected a big spike in radiation.) minding your own business. But, you guys must actually believe those old propaganda movies where the nukes are making everybody’s hair fall off even when they were probably hundreds of miles away from the actual blast and fallout, or that after all is said and done you’re going to have mutants walking around and that you can’t live in those places ever again.
A nuclear war is certainly survivable, and if we nuke North Korea, the South is going to be just fine.
You should have respect for those with some knowledge on the topic and not getting offended just because you disagree, though I am no expert. Just someone who happens to read from time to time. That’s why I supported my statements with no less than 3 links all saying the same thing as me.
3 dozen CT scans and 100s of x-rays?
What line of work are you in or, if not due to work, that’s a lot of CT scans. ???