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It's Not Cool To Cherry Pick Scripture
Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/29/2013 11:19:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

With Easter approaching and the Astroturf groundswell for same-sex marriage at its apex, I thought I'd put in a plug for the Bible, whose integrity and timeless principles are under increasing assault in our culture.

In fact, what sparked this column was a warning by a nationally prominent Republican to his party that it ought not go "Old Testament" and oppose same-sex marriage.

I don't want to turn this column into a rant about same-sex marriage, but I cite this example to illustrate a common tendency to bifurcate the Old Testament and the New Testament and to paint Jesus Christ as a figure of unqualified, open-armed tolerance and non-judgmentalism.

The more one studies the Bible with an open heart and a receptive mind the more he realizes it is a fully integrated and divinely inspired work.

First, let's dispense with the myth that one's belief in or rejection of the Bible is a matter of intelligence, as opposed to his worldview, heart and attitude. There are millions of brilliant believers throughout the world.

Let's also recognize that Christian "faith" does not require us to suspend our rational faculties or ignore evidence. To the contrary, our faith is based on an abundance of credible, compelling evidence. Yes, faith is absolutely indispensible to Christianity, but it is wholly compatible with our God-given critical capacities.

People decry and ridicule the Bible as full of superstition, bigotry and incredible supernaturalism, yet eagerly embrace their own superstitions that often require more faith to believe than biblical truths. Their God-void entices them to spiritualize and idolize environmentalism, full-blown Darwinism, astrology, pagan mysticism and any number of other politically correct beliefs, while scoffing at biblical Christianity.

The same type of person who will sit enraptured by stories of Nostradamus allegedly prophesying about (Adolf) "Hister" seems unaware of or unreceptive to far more impressive detailed prophesy in the Old Testament that has been fulfilled in history.

Others don't reject the Bible in toto, but cherry pick scripture out of innocence or for purposes of political expedience. Especially prevalent are efforts to ridicule the Old Testament, as with the above-cited example, and to recast Jesus as one who was open to all ideas and who rejected the supposed harshness of the Old Testament.

Unlike certain cultural icons today, Jesus didn't preach what people's itching ears wanted to hear. He didn't cater his sermons to curry favor with the popular culture. He articulated a higher standard of morality than even the Old Testament did.

More importantly, He did not reject but wholeheartedly endorsed the Old Testament generally and specifically. He didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. He said that "until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished," "the scriptures cannot be broken," and, "I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob."

Jesus also affirmed the historicity of many important events recorded in the Old Testament, which many today dismiss as mere allegory or pure fiction, such as the creation of Adam and Eve, the flood, Jonah and the whale, the miracles of Elijah, and the miracles of Moses in the wilderness.

His sinless life and His teachings, crucifixion and resurrection didn't render the Old Testament irrelevant but affirmed it as pointing to Him.

New Testament writers also affirmed the authority of the Old Testament. The Apostle Paul said, "All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Both Old Testament and New Testament writers asserted they were speaking on God's behalf and that what they were recording was factually and historically true.

Moses said his writings were from God, and the Old Testament prophets claimed to be speaking the words of the Lord.

Luke said, "Since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught."

Peter said, "We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty."

Paul said, "I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ."

It's bad enough that some people are caving to cultural pressure to dismantle traditional values, but could we please not throw the Bible overboard in this frantic stampede to be loved by the culture?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: christianity; easter; faithandfamily; pseudomarriage; secularists

1 posted on 03/29/2013 11:19:56 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

B U M P


2 posted on 03/29/2013 11:23:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Kaslin; Charles Henrickson

Doesn’t David spend some time down the road a piece from you? Have you been visiting?

:-)


3 posted on 03/29/2013 11:28:02 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Kaslin

This is what Bible believing Christians, and I count myself as one of them, have been saying! Christ loves the world, but hates the sin! He never accepted sin. This is separating the wheat from the chaff stuff folks!


4 posted on 03/29/2013 11:28:18 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: vpintheak

I believe the whole homosexual “rights” movement is the primary contemporary winnowing fork separating those who are loyal to God from those that love the world.


5 posted on 03/29/2013 11:29:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I agree.


6 posted on 03/29/2013 11:32:59 AM PDT by dragonblustar (2 Peter 3:18)
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To: Kaslin

Everything you need to know about how Jesus would treat homosexuals is in John 8:1-11. The only difference is that the adulterous woman admitted she had sinned. The homos, not so much. I don’t think that would have set well with the Savior.


7 posted on 03/29/2013 11:38:53 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Kaslin

Kosher? People I know have their finger on the concordance button at first hint there is a chance to show off.


8 posted on 03/29/2013 11:41:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: henkster
I think you need to read your Bible a little closer.

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.
9 posted on 03/29/2013 11:52:37 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

Every time in the past that God has become angry with human behavior he has wreaked havoc upon the world. Sodom and Gomorrah for example. The "Flood" for another.

10 posted on 03/29/2013 12:02:25 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: MrB
I believe the whole homosexual “rights” movement is the primary contemporary winnowing fork separating those who are loyal to God from those that love the world.

1 Thess 4:1-8 confirms this.

11 posted on 03/29/2013 12:08:46 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: vpintheak

true.

“go...and sin no more”

not “go and continue what you’re doing”


12 posted on 03/29/2013 12:25:28 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

:-)


13 posted on 03/29/2013 12:26:06 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Don Corleone
Sodom and Gomorrah are an excellent example.
Remember: And again, remember:
14 posted on 03/29/2013 12:26:34 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Kaslin

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

No Christian can get around this language - pretty specific!


15 posted on 03/29/2013 12:31:57 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Don Corleone
Take a read from Judges 19 (it starts around verse 22, but read from verse 1), thru Judges 20, and Judges 21, for more on where homosexuality leads.
16 posted on 03/29/2013 12:41:20 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Don't forget Romans 1:16-32, and especially verse 32 last half.
17 posted on 03/29/2013 12:43:55 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Kaslin

David Limbaugh bump to read later


18 posted on 03/29/2013 1:07:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Kaslin

Jesus came to fulfill the Old Testament not to do away with it.

And don’t forget this classic trope by Barrack:

“We are our brother’s keeper”

Not sure who is the more arrogant dick.

The smart alec murderer or the deceiving conniver, who is so self possessed by a philosophy that is the world’s historical leader for causing more deaths in the least amount time and who will recast scritpure, bastardizing the context and meaning, to his own end and implore man to act irresponsibly and amorally, collectively, in direct contravention to God.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 1:18:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kaslin

Bump.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 2:09:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Kaslin

Some on FR would complain about cherry picking even if an entire chapter is posted!!

ANYthing that shows THEIR ‘interpretation’ is wrong is considered to be cherry-picking.


21 posted on 03/29/2013 2:58:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: henkster
Everything you need to know about how Jesus would treat homosexuals is in John 8:1-11.

Oh??

Let's just see:

 

John 8:1-11 (NIV)
 
 
1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
 
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
 
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
 
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
 
11 “No one, sir,” she said.
 
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

22 posted on 03/29/2013 3:02:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: henkster
Let's just see:

Looks good; but the key verse is the LAST one:

“Go now and leave your life of sin.”

If one does NOT do that; then all bets are off.


Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 

23 posted on 03/29/2013 3:03:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert
People I know have their finger on the concordance button at first hint there is a chance to show off.

While others know the Book like the back of their hand.

24 posted on 03/29/2013 3:04:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Don Corleone
Every time in the past that God has become angry with human behavior he has wreaked havoc upon the world. Sodom and Gomorrah for example.

Belief leads to behavior

25 posted on 03/29/2013 3:05:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aimhigh

1 Thess 4:1-8

1 Finally, then, brothers, we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, just as you are doing, that you do so more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. 7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. 8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 3:07:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: henkster
Have you ignored John 1:1-18 with your focus on John 8:1-11 ?

Let's examine this. Now,
Was it not "the WORD", or as we know Him, Jesus Christ ?
27 posted on 03/30/2013 3:09:40 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Resurrection bump


28 posted on 03/31/2013 4:32:56 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Elsie; boatbums; metmom; smvoice; CynicalBear; daniel1212
"Belief leads to behavior"

Well now that would depend on how you defined 'belief'.If you defined it as something along the lines of mere mental assent you probably wouldn't agree that it effects behaviour that much.Hence the label...'easy-believism'.Many seem to think exactly that and that the work of God is altering your behaviour.It's not necessarily what you say you believe or even what you think you believe that will determine what you actually believe.It's what you do that will tell others and yourself what you really do believe.

A long,hard,brutally honest look at the wretched man in the mirror will quickly reveal why the "work of God" is to believe.

29 posted on 03/31/2013 5:05:35 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Don Corleone

God allows us to sink under the weight of our sins. All we have to do is refuse the outstretched hand he offered to Peter.


30 posted on 03/31/2013 7:34:03 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

Nice. Hadn’t thought of it in those terms.


31 posted on 03/31/2013 7:39:47 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

The story of Christ walking on the waters is a perfect illustration of the doctrine of Infallibility. Since Paul Vi, the pope have progressively divested themselves of imperial trappings. Benedict reverted to the central role of a bishop, which is to reach the faith. I remember with amusement a story about Augustine. The congregation loudly demanded that he take his place and teach them. He was pissed, but did it anyway.


32 posted on 03/31/2013 8:02:42 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: mitch5501

Faith is perfect trust in God. Easy to define, hard to live to live up to that.

Our attitude is not. They will be done, but “MY will be done.” Hey, Santa God, I expect that bike for Xmas!”


33 posted on 03/31/2013 8:05:35 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: mitch5501

Well said.

Thanks for the ping


34 posted on 03/31/2013 9:49:10 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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