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The Secret Republican Plan to Repeal 'Obamacare'
National Journal ^ | 3/28/13 | Chris Frates

Posted on 03/28/2013 6:10:14 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A few minutes after the Supreme Court issued its landmark decision upholding President Obama’s health care law last summer, a senior adviser to Mitch McConnell walked into the Senate Republican leader’s office to gauge his reaction.

McConnell was clearly disappointed, and for good reason. For many conservatives, the decision was the death knell in a three-year fight to defeat reforms that epitomized everything they thought was wrong with Obama’s governing philosophy. But where some saw finality, McConnell saw opportunity — and still does.

Sitting at his desk a stone’s throw from the Senate chamber, McConnell turned to the aide and, with characteristic directness, said: “This decision is too cute. But I think we got something with this tax issue.”

He was referring to the court’s ruling that the heart of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, the so-called individual mandate that requires everyone in the country to buy health insurance or pay a penalty, was a tax. And while McConnell thought calling the mandate a tax was “a rather creative way” to uphold the law, it also opened a new front in his battle to repeal it.

McConnell, a master of byzantine Senate procedure, immediately realized that, as a tax, the individual mandate would be subject to the budget reconciliation process, which exempted it from the filibuster. In other words, McConnell had just struck upon how to repeal Obamacare with a simple majority vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brilliant; death; deathcare; health; healthcare; life; mandate; mandatetax; mcconnell; nothealthcare; obamacare; romneycare; socializedmedicine; taxmandate
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...when it comes to legislative strategy, McConnell plays long ball. Beginning in 2009, the Republican leader led the push to unify his colleagues against Democrats’ health care plans, an effort that almost derailed Obamacare. In 2010, Republicans, helped in part by public opposition to the law, won back the House and picked up seats in the Senate. Last year, GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s embrace of the individual mandate while Massachusetts governor largely neutralized what had been a potent political issue.

But, in the next two years, Republicans are looking to bring the issue back in a big way. And they’ll start by trying to brand the law as one that costs too much and is not working as promised.

Democrats will be tempted to continue to write off the incoming fire as the empty rhetoric of a party fighting old battles. But that would be a mistake. During the health care debate, the GOP’s coordinated attacks helped turn public opinion against reform. And in the past two years, no more than 45 percent of the public has viewed Obamacare favorably, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s tracking polls. Perhaps even more dangerous for Democrats, now-debunked myths spread by Republicans and conservative media remain lodged in the public consciousness. For instance, 40 percent of the public still believes the law includes “death panels.”

1 posted on 03/28/2013 6:10:14 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

In the next two year????
Why not NOW!!

answer: THE GOP SUPPORTS OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
or they would have passed a bill to kill it yesterday.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 6:14:14 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Several states including California which is mine has insurance carriers saying they are going to raise the hell out of rates due to Obamacare.
Those that are expected to pay nothing will of course love Obamacare and vote Obama and democrats. Those takers and the government union thieves make up that 47%, the rest are going to get pissed as more of the law is enacted IMO.
3 posted on 03/28/2013 6:15:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Shhhhhhhbh it’s a secret!!!


4 posted on 03/28/2013 6:16:02 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Um...the death panels are not a myth. They aren’t called death panels formally, but that is just what they are.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 6:16:32 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Diogenesis

sigh.

They cannot repeal it now. Can. Not.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 6:16:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Why does it have to be a secret?

My secret is that I despise Democrats and Republicans alike. Same critter, different restroom or coat closet.

7 posted on 03/28/2013 6:16:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: fatnotlazy

I agree.


8 posted on 03/28/2013 6:17:18 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

bump


9 posted on 03/28/2013 6:18:07 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Diogenesis

No, the answer is it will take the bad law in some people’s faces draining their wallets before they wake their lazy butts up and vote something other than Democrat.

It is hard to fight a party that buys votes for power using the Treasury.


10 posted on 03/28/2013 6:18:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Oh, Bullsh!t !
The GOP will lie to us in a heartbeat!
But what do we do when our side is full of TRAITORS?
I submit the following for proof.

Check out this link, "Senate Republicans Willfully and Knowingly Lie to Their Constituents (vote to fund Obamacare)".
11 posted on 03/28/2013 6:22:38 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not a big fan of McConnell...but his strategy here seems pretty good given the realities of the Senate.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 6:22:44 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The GOP should
SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN !

We have the power to DO IT !
13 posted on 03/28/2013 6:28:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Diogenesis
Why not NOW!!

How, exactly, would you propose they do that?

The House would vote to repeal it. Then what?

14 posted on 03/28/2013 6:29:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not?

Why NOT try?

Answer: MITT ROMNEY and GOP began ObamaCARE/DeathCARE
and they WILL NEVER GET RID OF IT.

FUGOP


15 posted on 03/28/2013 6:29:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The real deal:


YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY,
THE “SWIMMER” AND THEIR TRAINED (INCARCERTED, TESTIFYING) FELON.


16 posted on 03/28/2013 6:31:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: elkfersupper

It has to be secret because they are using stealth technology. You will never see it coming.


17 posted on 03/28/2013 6:31:32 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How about before we get rid of Obamacare, we bring back US jobs?

Huh?

What is the GOP going to do?

Either back US jobs. Or don’t. But if you don’t back US jobs, then get out of the way as for who pays for healthcare, because it’s not going to work as an employer paid benefit if you do not have a JOB.

Stop getting rid of US jobs. Then we’ll talk.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 6:34:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Diogenesis
The House passed a bill to repeal ObamaKKKare. The Senate is ruled by Democrats ~ no legislation gets sent to the floor without the approval of Harry Reid.

I presume everybody knows how the Constitution works in regard to passage of legislation.

19 posted on 03/28/2013 6:45:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fatnotlazy

They set the standards of care ~ and are very real. If the standard of care for 70 year olds is a pain pill, that’s what you get.


20 posted on 03/28/2013 6:47:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Yosemitest

Did Sen. Ted Cruz vote for or against the Continuing Resolution?


21 posted on 03/28/2013 6:51:12 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Diogenesis

“Why not now?”

Another question ask: why not in the 2012 Senate election? Why not nationalize the election back then, saying “Vote in Republicans and we can and will repeal the tax. Period.”


22 posted on 03/28/2013 6:51:38 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: elkfersupper

It needs to be secret because why would you advertise to the enemy what your plans are before you have the tools to implement your strategy?

Defunding will not be enough...you need to replace it with something like tort reform, tax credits, HSA provisions all of which you will not get with a dem controlled senate. I’d rather win with a longer term strategy than with a Pyrrhic victory just so I can feel good for a day.


23 posted on 03/28/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah

Bill originate in the House and not the White HUT.

When the Republicans (unlikely) get one testicle
between them, they will speak up.
Loudly.
Over and over.

Instead, they lie down as America dies like the frog
in the proverbial boiling pot.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 6:59:54 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You have got to be kidding me.

That is similar to the treasonous concept that USG can pass a bill before they look at it.

The majority of Repubs are not on our side. There _are_ some great congressmen, though.


25 posted on 03/28/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by veracious
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To: ReaganGeneration2

How would you repeal the tax with a president who would veto your bill?


26 posted on 03/28/2013 7:00:54 PM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah

one more point...
THEY DO NOTHING because THEIR OWN FAMILIES
are exempt from ObamaCARE.

BUT FOR THE EXEMPTION from the Law, they might not be mute.


27 posted on 03/28/2013 7:01:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Another question ask: why not in the 2012 Senate election? Why not nationalize the election back then, saying “Vote in Republicans and we can and will repeal the tax. Period.”

Unfortunately, the identity of the nominee foreclosed on that particular campaign strategy...

28 posted on 03/28/2013 7:07:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Graewoulf
This is all I can find, for now...from RedState...

Ted Cruz will not stand alone. He’ll be joined by the Senator from Utah.

Here’s a statement from Senator Lee’s office:

“I will join Senator Cruz in objecting to Senate consideration of any Continuing Resolution without a vote on delaying funding of Obamacare. Defunding Obamacare is essential to restoring economic growth. At this time of fiscal turmoil, Congress shouldn’t borrow more money to pay for something we cannot afford. Although I would prefer a full repeal of Obamacare, we should at minimum delay its implementation until our country is experiencing real, sustained economic growth.”

29 posted on 03/28/2013 7:14:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: A CA Guy

“Those takers and the government union thieves make up that 47%, the rest are going to get pissed as more of the law is enacted IMO.”

What about all of the many unions exepmt from Obamacare by waivers?

That should tell everyone how bad it is before the costs skyrocket out of control, but voters would then have to use truth and logic.


30 posted on 03/28/2013 7:14:29 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Diogenesis
answer: THE GOP SUPPORTS OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE or they would have passed a bill to kill it yesterday.

Never let common sense get in the way of an opportunity to bash the GOP. The law can't be repealed without a majority in both the Senate and House of Representatives as well as a President willing to sign the repeal legislation. That is not possible until January 2017 at the earliest. As a realist, Senator McConnell is trying to create the conditions for action when and if the pieces are ever in place. But never fear, you will have ample opportunity in the intervening time to criticize him for not doing the impossible.

31 posted on 03/28/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by etcb
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To: A CA Guy

Many democrats will “play” conservative, say they made a mistake and say they’re going to repeal obamacare and the suckers will fall for it and re-elect them. Just like republicans.


32 posted on 03/28/2013 7:29:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Great news.

Are they going to employ this strategy before or after they organize their way out of a paper bag?

33 posted on 03/28/2013 7:31:20 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why does this evoke images of Animal House scenes?


34 posted on 03/28/2013 7:32:19 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh yes, it’s very complex, we must pretend to support it to defeat it. /s


35 posted on 03/28/2013 7:39:55 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Graewoulf
I believe Sen Ted Cruz wrote the amendment SA 30, and yes, he voted for it.
On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 933 As Amended ) Sen Ted Cruz voted Nay.

I hope you appreciate the time it took me to find this.
36 posted on 03/28/2013 7:44:03 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; Jane Long

I do indeed! I have asked this question on several FR threads, and nobody seems to know. Thank you!


37 posted on 03/28/2013 7:46:51 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Diogenesis

“Why not NOW!!”

Exactly. We have Obamacare because the elites in both parties wanted it.


38 posted on 03/28/2013 7:51:55 PM PDT by swampfox101 (l)
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To: Yosemitest; Graewoulf

Thanks for the answer. I knew he’d proposed an amendment against it, but couldn’t get to the actual vote. Too late, too tired ;)


39 posted on 03/28/2013 7:52:59 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Yosemitest

Bless you, FRiend, for posting this. I’ve seen it on a couple of threads. Good work :)


40 posted on 03/28/2013 7:53:54 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bullshit!! there is no Republican plan to repeal obamacare, secret or not. That is what the Republican candidates said in 2009 and 2010, “Elect me and I will repeal obamacare” and I do believe that , for the most part, those saying that had the intention to do so. However, when they got to Congress, they were neutralized by the Republican leadership who had absolutely no intention or desire to repeal obamacare. In 2010 I bit on that line, but since I have learned. Learned what? The main difference between the Republican Party and Democrat Party is is the spelling.


41 posted on 03/28/2013 7:54:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: okie01

Don’t fund it....,quite simple really.

Force the thugs, both republicans and democrats, that want this garbage to defend it in public. Then attack...attack....attack...attack...and then attack some more....!


42 posted on 03/28/2013 7:57:53 PM PDT by swampfox101 (l)
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To: muawiyah

All spending and taxation bills begin in the House. Just don’t fund obamacare..!


43 posted on 03/28/2013 8:00:02 PM PDT by swampfox101 (l)
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To: Jane Long
Right mouse click it, then click view source or source.
Find the post in the source, copy and paste it to a notepad,
then save it under a name of your choosing, and repost it when and where you want.
44 posted on 03/28/2013 8:00:35 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: etcb

Not sure what you are smoking, but the GOP has NO INTEREST
in stopping ObamaCARE (because they are not under its
death panels, nor their families, nor their staff).

THE GOP has sold out to Romney and Romney Agendae.


45 posted on 03/28/2013 8:08:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: sport

“Bullshit!! there is no Republican plan to repeal obamacare, secret or not.”

Amen brother...! We have obamacare because the politicians want it..We have a huge deficit because the politicians want it,...We have a huge debt because the politicians want it...We have illegals pouring over the boarder by the millions for one reason and one reason only..., the politicians want it....!

Follow the money.....!!!!


46 posted on 03/28/2013 8:09:20 PM PDT by swampfox101 (l)
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To: swampfox101
Don’t fund it....,quite simple really.

How do they not fund it...if there is no budget?

Obamacare expenditures are built into the Current Services Baseline which, if there is no agreed upon Congressional budget, automatically funds expenditures. > So long as the Senate and the House do not agree upon a budget -- and the appropriation bills are not signed by the President -- Obamacare is on autopilot and there is little the House can do about it.

Other than shut down the government -- which the 'Pubbies are not prepared to do -- because they can't trust the President to manage the money and not default on our debt (or cease writing Social Security checks or cease paying the military their wages, etc.)

The fact that the Democrat Senate has not brought forth a budget for four years is not by accident. They knew they would lose the House in 2010, so they set up a circumstance that essentially chained the Republican House to the status quo ante.

47 posted on 03/28/2013 8:11:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Diogenesis
So, how are they exept from the reach of ObamaKKKare?

Everybody in Congress is covered by the FEHB ~ same agency that arranges medical insurance for all federal employees. I sometimes run into folks from the HIll at Kaiser ~ so what's going on?

48 posted on 03/28/2013 8:12:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Why dont you read it.

Moslems, Amish, and Congress and their staff are exempt.

WTF happened to “EQUAL UNDER THE LAW”.
Answer: It went the way of truth, justice, and transparency.


49 posted on 03/28/2013 8:21:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis
Why not NOW!!

The answer is simple, and Roberts pretty much spelled it out in his appalling ruling.

The American People get the government, and legislation, they deserve.

ObamaCare is just starting to go into effect now. And is going to go fully into effect in 2014. People are feeling the pain, and realizing what really happened with a bill that needed to be passed in order to find out what was actually in it.

The American People NEED to feel the pain of this. It's a hard and bitter pill to swallow, but in electing a Congressional Democrat Majority and then the most extremist Liberal President in US history they got exactly what they deserved.

Its going to be a hail mary pass ... but once the public starts feeling the pain of ObamaCare they're going to be looking for someone to blame. The Republicans are the ones in position to capitalize on it. I think that there's a really good chance that the GOP will pick up seats in the House and take the Senate on this issue in 2014. There's even an outside chance that, combined with gun control, there'll be a political bloodletting on it.

So, in early 2015 (two years from now), the House repeals ObamaCare and sends the repeal to the Senate ... where it's repealed under Reconciliation and sent to Obama to sign or veto.

He's going to have a good number of Dem Senators from purple/red states who are up for reelection in 2016 demanding that he sign. If he chooses not to ... they may just abandon him in droves. Even to the point where we may see a couple/few Party-switchers (as we did after the 1994 election).

A veto also means that the pain persists, even increases, into 2016. It'll doom Biden, Hillary! and Cuomo for sure. It may not be enough, given the demographic shifts underway, to elect a GOP President. But it may be enough to force the Dems to find a nominee who can do what Clinton did in 1992: play Conservative in order to win.

Here's the really delicious part tho. And understand I'm not endorsing or supporting or advocating for gay marriage in saying this. At all - this is just political mechanics. But if the Supreme Court strikes down DOMA and Prop 8, and "marriage equality" is a reality and pretty much off the table as a major political issue, there may be a stampede of homosexuals and "moderates" if not into the GOP, then maybe out of the Dem Party and into Indie/Non-Aligned status where they'd see it in their interests to vote for a GOP Presidential candidate in 2016.

Like I said, it's a hail-mary pass and a long shot. But I think it's the only viable game in town right now.
50 posted on 03/28/2013 8:22:48 PM PDT by tanknetter
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