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Police: Shootings of Brunswick mother, son were random (update)
news4jax.com ^ | 3/27/2013

Posted on 03/27/2013 12:29:29 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

The shootings of a Brunswick mother and her 1-year-old son last week in which the boy was killed were random, Glynn County Police Chief Matt Doering said at a news conference Wednesday.

De'Marquise Elkins, 17, and Dominique Lang, 15, were each indicted Wednesday on a count of first-degree murder in the killing of 13-month-old Antonio Santiago.

Doering said it had been a judgment call about releasing the information that the location and victims of the shootings were random, but he said investigators are now comfortable in revealing that.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: antoniosantiago; babykilling; murder; race; random
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1 posted on 03/27/2013 12:29:29 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Thank goodness it was random and not a hate crime.


2 posted on 03/27/2013 12:31:12 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Farrakhan and 0bama have been trying to foment race war. The perps were black, the victims were white. If it were reversed, Jesse Jackson and every other professional race baiter would be there trying to stir up riots.


3 posted on 03/27/2013 12:32:15 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Its always “random” when two black youths kill a white baby..but had it been the other way around, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have demanded the suspects be charged with a hate crime


4 posted on 03/27/2013 12:33:03 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dblshot

5 posted on 03/27/2013 12:33:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: RoosterRedux
The gun did it.
6 posted on 03/27/2013 12:34:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: RoosterRedux

With great sadness am on this thread.


7 posted on 03/27/2013 12:34:59 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RoosterRedux

I doubt it would have made any difference if the child were black. The perps are animals plain and simple.


8 posted on 03/27/2013 12:35:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RoosterRedux
YUP! No hate crime here

 photo 395113-baby-antonio-santiago-and-de-039-marquise-elkins_zps5b712cba.jpg

9 posted on 03/27/2013 12:35:43 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: RoosterRedux
Random?

 

Suuuurre.


10 posted on 03/27/2013 12:36:53 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dblshot
IIRC, a hate crime can be random.

I think the point here is that there was no relationship between West [the mother] and the killers which would lead one to believe that the death was premeditated.

As you may remember from earlier stories, the daughter of West had implicated the mother obliquely by saying she brought up the subject of insurance on the baby's life. This charge seems to dismiss any such notion.

11 posted on 03/27/2013 12:36:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen creek!


12 posted on 03/27/2013 12:37:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cripplecreek
Certainly possible. There's enough black-on-black crime to suggest that for people like this, it really doesn't matter... although I haven't heard too many black-on-white cases where the authorities actually admit it was racial.
13 posted on 03/27/2013 12:38:05 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Responsibility2nd
Random?

 

Suuuurre.


14 posted on 03/27/2013 12:38:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dblshot

of course it was random. Both defendants combined don’t have the IQ to conspire and/or plan any kind of crime. They just went out looking for trouble. And found it, big time.


15 posted on 03/27/2013 12:38:42 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Uncle Miltie

Pioneer black Einsatzgruppen. In 10 years they will be released and receive the Iron Cross.


16 posted on 03/27/2013 12:39:00 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Oh man, looks like the doll out of Toy Story! EEEEwwwwww!


17 posted on 03/27/2013 12:40:21 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Black kids pick out and kill white baby.

Yea, “random” sums that up I guess.

Is there anyone, anywhere, that honestly believes that this wouldn’t be getting “HATE CRIME OF THE CENTURY” treatment if the races were reversed?


18 posted on 03/27/2013 12:40:21 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: RoosterRedux

They just happened to be the first random white people these guys could find.

How stupid do these people think we are?


19 posted on 03/27/2013 12:40:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Yep. Great sadness.

But this is what Obama and Holder's war on whitey has produced. There will be more.

When King Samir Shabazz said "kill cracka babies"...he wasn't just blowing smoke.

20 posted on 03/27/2013 12:42:20 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

From the comments at the link;

“The mom just acts a little different from what I would expect; granted, I have never lost a child, nor have I witnessed a murder. It just seemed that the mother was just too eager to speak with the news...over and over again. She packed up and donated the child’s clothes the day after the murder. Hew own daughter stated that the mother asked the day after the killing “How long till I get the insurance check”.


21 posted on 03/27/2013 12:42:20 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The PD released the information because conspiracy nuts, including too many on these threads, believe the mother was involved.

Stipulating even that the mother was not Donna Reed or June Cleaver, and may in fact be pure white trash, does not lead to the automatic conclusion of several FReepers and others that she colluded with these two geniuses to have her child shot in the face.


22 posted on 03/27/2013 12:43:19 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: RoosterRedux

The Chief of Police made some kind of odd comments:

“Doering still refused to answer the key question, whether West and the suspects know each other, saying it would harm the investigation. He would not say how long the suspects have known each other.”

Lang’s family has said Lang did not know Elkins.

Doering closed the news conference saying, “A truth will come to light at the proper time, just not now.”


23 posted on 03/27/2013 12:43:38 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“King” Malik Shabazz says if you want true freedom you have to kill some cracker babies.


24 posted on 03/27/2013 12:44:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RoosterRedux

yep, said things get understood when leaders say them. Regrettable for those Men and Women doing the right things.


25 posted on 03/27/2013 12:44:57 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Worth looking at if this exchange can be verified.
26 posted on 03/27/2013 12:46:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: P-Marlowe
How stupid do these people think we are?

I don't think they think about it at all.

What we have learned since Obama arrived on the scene is that some pulpits have preached hatred of whitey for so long and with such fervency that war (declared by the haters...same as in Islam) is unavoidable.

27 posted on 03/27/2013 12:46:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; RoosterRedux; dblshot; The Sons of Liberty; Roccus; E. Pluribus Unum; ...

In an August 13, 2012 New Black Pan­ther Party online radio broad­cast, the group’s National Field Mar­shal from Philadel­phia King Samir Shabazz, went off on an vicious tirade about bomb­ing white churches and killing white babies. “If Blacks want to be free,” Shabazz explained, “you’re going to have to kill some of these babies, just born three sec­onds ago. You’re going to have to go into the God damn nurs­ery and just throw a damn bomb in the damn nurs­ery and just kill every­thing white in sight.”


28 posted on 03/27/2013 12:49:40 PM PDT by LucyT
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.

Jesse Jackson once famously said that “when he walked down the street and heard footsteps behind him, he was relieved to turn around and find a white person behind him.”


29 posted on 03/27/2013 12:54:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Uncle Miltie

D E A D  eyes


If only there'd been a law !

30 posted on 03/27/2013 12:55:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: LucyT

It was crap like this after The War Between the States that was the impetus for the KKK being founded.


31 posted on 03/27/2013 12:56:34 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: no-to-illegals

Its too bad so many FReepers have chosen to play the no win game. Even getting it labeled a hate crime is a loss, maybe an even bigger loss.


32 posted on 03/27/2013 12:56:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Great point creek. War with ourselves is not a game I wish on any of us.


33 posted on 03/27/2013 12:58:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dblshot

Yup. Nothing hateful about shooting an 18 month old. Must have “dissed” them or something huh? But since it was random, no harm, no foul and his mom and auntee should be released too. I mean, isn’t it all about equal justice? “If I had a son.................”


34 posted on 03/27/2013 1:05:42 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: cripplecreek

It might not have, to them, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the media and the race hustlers would have made sure that it was charged as one. They proved that they could and would do so in the Zimmerman case, which was weeks old when the media looked for just such a case in which the “cold-blooded killer” appeared to be a southern white good old boy, while the deceased could be portrayed as a youthful “honuh stoo-dint”. They didn’t bother to check the details, they knew they didn’t need to-they control the narrative.


35 posted on 03/27/2013 1:11:22 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If I had a son.....


36 posted on 03/27/2013 1:21:29 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: rktman

Little Antonio Santiago, being a ‘white hispanic’ baby, deserved it on the basis of “justice for Trayvon.”


37 posted on 03/27/2013 1:23:19 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

Uh, ouch.


38 posted on 03/27/2013 1:24:27 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Uncle Miltie

Looking at the pictures - I can tell these two were follow any gun control law put down. So the solution? Obviously more gun control. /s


39 posted on 03/27/2013 1:26:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: SampleMan

Yes it would be different if it was a black baby murdered by a white perp ....Half of Brunswick would have been burned down by a now


40 posted on 03/27/2013 1:27:07 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: cripplecreek; no-to-illegals

Anytime anyone shoots a baby in the face, it is a hate crime. Nothing to do with pigmentation.


41 posted on 03/27/2013 1:31:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: EDINVA

So because some are/were suspicious of the mother, they are “conspiracy nuts”.

Seems nutty to me to not even at least look at her and say “something is amiss here”

If someone could look at all she’s done and still say nothing is strange, then they are the nutcases, not people who actually try to look at ALL the angles
of the case.


42 posted on 03/27/2013 1:32:45 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: cripplecreek

It was initially a robbery. Black Momma’s got no money, maybe an EBT card....But even if she did hand over some money, the kid gets shot either way.


43 posted on 03/27/2013 1:33:56 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Uh oh. Didn’t know that, but I smelled it after I saw a video of her.


44 posted on 03/27/2013 1:37:53 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: LucyT

(imho) any crime no matter the pigmentation of the skin of the perp; that perp who accentuated or perpetrated a crime committed a crime. All crime (imho) is founded in hate of one sort or another. Always thought hate crime laws were laws which failed to address the criminal activity of the perp perpetrating the crime rather was an excuse and utilized by defense attorneys to explain toward an exoneration rather than conviction by placing forward an excuse. The law itself, as having been applied, has spoken of its initial purpose (imho). Legislators and legislation enacted by legislators normally has a negative result rather than a positive result. Some of the negative results are by design, it does appear. Prime example will be and is obamacare.


45 posted on 03/27/2013 1:39:29 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: EDINVA

Well, she may have colluded with someone else who sent the shooters.


46 posted on 03/27/2013 1:39:51 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: GOPJ

Look at the caption.

He publicly posts his intent to murder someone in the street, then does it.


47 posted on 03/27/2013 1:45:44 PM PDT by IChing
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To: dblshot
Thank goodness it was random and not a hate crime.

Yes, because IF there were any justice, we would have to fry him twice.

48 posted on 03/27/2013 2:15:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Commies out of DC!" --Raoul Deming, 1954-2013)
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To: cripplecreek
Its too bad so many FReepers have chosen to play the no win game. Even getting it labeled a hate crime is a loss, maybe an even bigger loss.

I don't think they really want hate-crime legislation; I think they resent the obvious hypocrisy when a crime is black-on-white but is never found to be a hate crime.

49 posted on 03/27/2013 2:19:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Commies out of DC!" --Raoul Deming, 1954-2013)
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To: LucyT
...New Black Pan­ther Party online radio broad­cast, the group’s National Field Mar­shal from Philadel­phia King Samir Shabazz, went off on an vicious tirade about bomb­ing white churches and killing white babies. “If Blacks want to be free,” Shabazz explained, “you’re going to have to kill some of these babies, just born three sec­onds ago. You’re going to have to go into the God damn nurs­ery and just throw a damn bomb in the damn nurs­ery and just kill every­thing white in sight.”

Odd how they're sooooooo brave about shooting up babies ... yeah, we're soooooo impressed.

50 posted on 03/27/2013 2:32:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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