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Creationist stakes $10,000 on contest between Bible and evolution
The Guardian ^ | March 25, 2013 | Amanda Holpuch

Posted on 03/27/2013 11:15:00 AM PDT by EveningStar

A California creationist is offering a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove in front of a judge that science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

Dr Joseph Mastropaolo, who says he has set up the contest, the Literal Genesis Trial ...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; evolution; josephmastropaolo; literalgenesistrial; religion; science; stars; verminman
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To: EveningStar

IMHO it has always been the same story, just from two different frames of reference.


21 posted on 03/27/2013 11:42:45 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: MrB

Doesn’t take much interpretation to think that it took 100,000 years for light to reach us from an object 100000 light years away. But it takes a lot of lame excuses and hand waving to make it conform to the answer anywhere close to where the creationist already knows a priori that it just has to be!


22 posted on 03/27/2013 11:43:43 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: varmintman

That’s enough proof to me that it evolved from Rosie odonnel.


23 posted on 03/27/2013 11:44:10 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Moonman62
Magnetic striping of the oceans, and the lengthier ice cores should do it.

A good additional one will be the Gaia spacecraft launching this year, which will be able to measure the distance to stars up to 30,000 light-years away through straightforward parallax trigonometry, thus adding yet another proof the galaxy, at least, is older than 6,000 years.

It will be amusing to watch the young-earth creationists contort themselves into trying to disprove those results - probably through some silly claims the speed of light has radically changed in the last 6,000 years.

24 posted on 03/27/2013 11:44:47 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: editor-surveyor
If there were any, but that’s the hitch; its all imagination.

Well I'm not a geologist but I'm pretty sure they're on pretty solid ground when they point to evidence that indicates the earth is millions if not billions of years old rather than only a few thousand. Nothing imaginary in that.

25 posted on 03/27/2013 11:46:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: allmendream

We’re also seeing light from stars further out than the atheists’ estimation of the age of creation.


26 posted on 03/27/2013 11:47:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Strategerist

Interestingly enough, there are “young stars and Galaxy’s” that we shouldn’t be able to see.


27 posted on 03/27/2013 11:49:12 AM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: EveningStar

These threads are always so much fun to read.


28 posted on 03/27/2013 11:50:07 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: MrB
By “atheists” do you mean “Astronomers”?

Hilarious that you cannot even attempt to make an argument against scientific evidence without making it an argument against atheism.

“Cuz like only dem atheists cud belives in sompin dat is agins what I think da Bible tells me!”

29 posted on 03/27/2013 11:51:05 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DoodleDawg
Presenting evidence that the Earth is older than 6,000 years should win it I would think.

No, because no one would be able to prove the Bible states the Earth is only 6000 years old.

30 posted on 03/27/2013 11:56:45 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: The KG9 Kid
"This is nothing more than someone saying 'Look at Meeeeee!', but the left wing UK Guardian believes this is 'news'. "

Bingo!

31 posted on 03/27/2013 11:57:08 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Strategerist
There are at least 30 well documented different ways demonstrating it's obvious the Earth is older than 6,000 years.

And this relates to the Bible how.....?

32 posted on 03/27/2013 11:59:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: EveningStar

33 posted on 03/27/2013 11:59:57 AM PDT by stormer
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To: allmendream
Doesn’t take much interpretation to think that it took 100,000 years for light to reach us from an object 100000 light years away.

Always the a priori assumptions that fowl the argument ...

The Genesis text says the stars were created to mark times and seasons ... if the photon stream from the stars to the earth were not part of the creation then the light from the stars couldn't be used to mark times and seasons.

34 posted on 03/27/2013 12:00:19 PM PDT by dartuser (My firearm is not illegal ... its undocumented.)
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To: ifinnegan
No, because no one would be able to prove the Bible states the Earth is only 6000 years old.

That would come as a pretty big surprise to Bishop Ussher and young Earth creationists the world over.

35 posted on 03/27/2013 12:01:57 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: EveningStar; GiovannaNicoletta; F15Eagle; .45 Long Colt; Buddygirl; Former Fetus; Bockscar; ...

Baptist ping


36 posted on 03/27/2013 12:02:01 PM PDT by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: EveningStar

Any debate needs a few rules and definitions. First order of business: agree on a definition of time that isn’t circular or self-serving. That should prove to be pretty challenging.


37 posted on 03/27/2013 12:02:13 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: editor-surveyor

Creationism is imagination. The half life decay of atoms and the speed of light are demonstrable real life events which are observable.


38 posted on 03/27/2013 12:03:20 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: dartuser
Last Thursdayism.

How about light from stars that have not even existed within the last six thousand years? Just a stream of light where a dying star would be if it had ever actually existed? Fake evidence of an object that never existed is one messed up theological apologetics work around to arrive at the a priori assumption.

39 posted on 03/27/2013 12:04:06 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DoodleDawg
Presenting evidence that the Earth is older than 6,000 years should win it I would think.

Where in the book of Genesis does it state the Earth is 6000 years old?

40 posted on 03/27/2013 12:05:53 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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