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University Bows to National Outrage, Won’t Punish Student Who Refused to Stomp Jesus
Townhall.com ^ | March 26, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 03/26/2013 9:20:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: IrishBrigade
...if it can be shown that retaliation against the student was for bringing a gratuitous complaint against the instructor, that’s one thing...

I don't think the complaint was gratuitous. The student was deeply offended by the instructor's choice of using the name of Jesus as the symbol to be desecrated.

I don't think that the lesson plan called for that specific word to be written; it was the instructor's choice to do so. He could have been more culturally sensitive in picking a symbol than using a religious hot-button that has been traditionally off-limits in the schools by Democrats for decades.

As I wrote earlier, the instructor could have chosen a copy of the American flag, which the Supreme Court has already ruled as being a legitimate form of speech to desecrate, to make his lesson point.

It was the professor's poor judgment that was being questioned by the student, and validly so.

-PJ

101 posted on 03/26/2013 12:32:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: esoxmagnum
Some animals are more equal than others.

I should have known.

102 posted on 03/26/2013 12:39:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: NRA1995

My guess is he would have stomped or spit on whatever as it was part of his little exercise. What’s cool about having it involve mohammad is that muslims would have taken care of him.


103 posted on 03/26/2013 12:48:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Kaslin
My guess is that a professor would never order his students to do this:


104 posted on 03/26/2013 1:07:52 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: freedomlover
A perfect example of why:

We should have picked our own cotton!

105 posted on 03/26/2013 1:09:57 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: oldbrowser

I always thought the best way to respond to offensive remarks was either a right cross to the chin, or a left hook to the jaw or a kick in the nads but I’m ‘’old school’’.


106 posted on 03/26/2013 1:15:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
I always thought the best way to respond to offensive remarks was either a right cross to the chin, or a left hook to the jaw or a kick in the nads but I’m ‘’old school’’.

I have always felt the same way. Why go to the trouble of trying to defuse a situation when a backhand will leave a more lasting impression.

107 posted on 03/26/2013 1:35:45 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Kaslin

Good. Now let’s hope he files a massive, massive lawsuit for putting him through all the bullsh*t in utter violation of the First Amendment and even the most basic standards of ethical behavior by the college administrators.


108 posted on 03/26/2013 1:44:45 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hydrazine
If I was that student I would have taken another piece of paper and written, “Barack Obama” on it.

Modifying my earlier post on this, I would have written "MOHAMMED" on it and then show all the Muslim students the sheet and tell them that the prof ordered said student to stomp on it but he refused, but thought his Muslim classmates should know about it - and let nature take its course. (They fight dirty, we fight dirtier.)

A milder diversion would be to show the prof the Mohammed sheet and ask him if it was OK to stomp on that - then watch as the prof - literally - go white.

You see, they feel safe in doing this to Christians because they will do nothing but complain, while the Muslims will just kill you. Along this thought, I always wanted to go to one of those art exhibitions where the artist was present and say, LOUDLY, "I thought your (crucifix in urine, dung on the Virgin Mary) was daring - I understand you are going to do the same to an image of Mohammed" - and watch him soil himself in public.

I'd like to see some kind of counter-attack along those lines become widespread. I suspect this kind of propaganda would cesase fairly quickly.

BTW, I'm not a Christian nor a Muslim.

109 posted on 03/26/2013 1:51:59 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Your comment reminded me very much of an experience many years ago when I was in my first semester of college. I was taking an elective course titled something like ‘contemporary literature and notable writers’. The prof had a subtle reputation of being a socialist/communist. Among assigned reading we read from writings by world known politicians including Hitler, Lenin and the likes of ‘right wing’ editorial writers. On the final exam there was question/topic to “define propaganda’. I felt this was a better be right gotcha situation. My written answer/response was that propaganda was what we had been experiencing in that class. I got an A on the final and for the course. To this day I think that whatever the prof was politically he had to be fair minded.


110 posted on 03/26/2013 1:55:20 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

If he leans Left he certainly was one of the exceptions and not the rule at least by today’s measuring stick.


111 posted on 03/26/2013 2:15:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, IÂ’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oatka

LOL! I would be surprised if the prof took the challenge.

BTW, I don’t fall into either of those two camps myself!


112 posted on 03/26/2013 2:18:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, IÂ’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Ripliancum
There's a clique here on FR that goes to great lengths to demean all things Mormon.

Flying Inmen of varying ilk...




113 posted on 03/26/2013 7:28:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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114 posted on 03/26/2013 7:28:59 PM PDT by narses
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To: PGR88; Kaslin
On America's college campuses it has diminished freedom of speech,
warped curricula, politicized grading and replaced intellectual integrity
with vapid sloganeering. In classroom after classroom, professors offer an
ideological rant, which students are compelled to regurgitate to get a grade:
the vomit returns to the dog. These places--and they are many--are no
longer universities, but small, ivy-covered North Koreas.

~ William S. Lind

115 posted on 03/26/2013 9:08:15 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain.)
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To: Oatka; Jack Hydrazine
BTW, I'm not a Christian nor a Muslim.

There's still time!

I can kinda understand why folks aren't Muslim; but not being a Christian baffles me.

When I came to admit that I was a poor example of a human being; and to realize that there was an end looming in my future, and that I was not able to do anything about it under my own power; I listened to the claims made by - and about - Jesus and then I made a judgement call to believe and accept what I'd heard and read.

116 posted on 03/27/2013 3:34:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ripliancum

I would suggest they write Martin Luther King on a piece of paper
and stomp on it.


117 posted on 03/27/2013 4:18:32 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Palio di Siena
I would suggest they write Martin Luther King on a piece of paper and stomp on it.

Just don't write Joseph Smith, or Brigham Young, or ANY of the other leaders of MORMONism!


 



 
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the 'prophets, seers, and revelators' of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostacy..."
(Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)
 
 
 
Reinforced here......
 

MP3 File

This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:

"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."
 

 
Don't criticize?

 
 
 
 
And here:
 

Temple Recommend Questions:

 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

 5 Do you live the law of chastity?

 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

     Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

     Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 
 
 
 


Oh, they can say that their leaders were NOT speaking for GOD when they said    WHATEVER    but that's NOT the same as criticizing!


 
( Remember fellow Christians:  the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )



118 posted on 03/27/2013 5:34:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
HMMMmmm... I wonder what the student's response would have been if Jerald Tanner had been written on the paper???
119 posted on 03/27/2013 5:36:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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