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Does Your Water Need More Ions? The latest health fad is even more ridiculous than most health fads.
Slate ^ | March 22, 2013 | Kent Sepkowitz

Posted on 03/23/2013 8:49:17 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Which just shows ‘highly edumacated’ people can still be pretty stoopid, too.


51 posted on 03/24/2013 7:29:50 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot; All
Um, by the way, I can sell you Homeopathy Water with a great discount, since ya’ll are my great FReeper friends.
52 posted on 03/24/2013 7:35:49 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: bigbob
"Oh noes, Ionic Change!"

Its due to "climate cooling", "climate warming" or "climate change".

Bank on it.

53 posted on 03/24/2013 8:24:48 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: Myrddin
"I get very sick from gluten exposure. The initial reaction (minutes) is a gurgling in my lungs that initiates throat clearing, gagging and coughing. The hours to days follow-on changes to the inside surfaces of my GI tract is something akin to a skinned knee oozing serum with lots of bleeding."

I know exactly what you mean. We are just not made for gluten or cows' milk!

My doctor said to try gluten and cows' milk free and see what happens. It hasn't been a week yet but I don't blow up like a beach ball after eating like I do regular food with gluten or milk.

Mr. hummingbird could eat a gluten sandwich with cows' milk with a beer or two and not think anything at all about it because it doesn't bother him. hummingbird, here, is like a hot-house flower. If I followed Mr. hummingbird's diet, I'd probably be in a state of painful perpetual bloat all the time.

I'll give gluten free a chance. Maybe okay for me, maybe not. We'll see!

Best of luck to you, friend, let's keep in touch!

54 posted on 03/24/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: Grams A
"But God says when we get to Heaven it will all make sense."

Yes.....

55 posted on 03/24/2013 8:54:56 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: Mark17
"There are many scams out there. About the only one I know, that really works, is that shrinking garden water hose. Much to my amazement, it really does work. "

I got one of those from the "As Seen on TV" aisle at Walgreens and it works for me. Very lightweight and curls up well so you don't have trip-able hoses all over the place.

I like it and I like Walgreens "As seen on TV" aisle!

56 posted on 03/24/2013 8:58:49 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: exDemMom

It sounds like she has orthorexia.”

Actually what’s wrong with her is that she is a very, very liberal psychologist.

She continually complains because her insurance rates are going up but wants the state to pay her more for seeing people who have Medicaid insurance. Thinks she should be able to deduct the cost of stockings she wears to professional meetings as a business expense because otherwise she wouldn’t buy them.

If she has a pain or discomfort she goes on the internet and finds an exotic disease that fits those symptoms.

I could write volumes but you get the idea.


57 posted on 03/24/2013 9:14:02 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Thank you for the kind thoughts.

I am doing OK, no complaints. It is what it is.

Another one of my Late Mother’s sayings was, There will always be someone better off than you, and there will always be someone worse off than you, that’s Life.

Once you accept that premise there is no envy. Too bad Democrats don’t think that way, huh? All they exist to do is blame others for their circumstances and to use Envy as a road to gaining power over Men. That is why I will never Vote for a Democrat, ever.

Oh yeah, one from my Father. “Nobody owes you a living, so get back to work”. I heard that one when I was a whining 12 year old working at my Dad’s Gas Station to make some money.

My Parents didn’t believe in giving their kids an “ALLOWANCE”. If you needed money, you asked for it. Then there was a Grand Bargain, money for labor. I spent my youth negotiating for wages. I should have run a Union.


58 posted on 03/24/2013 10:42:42 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Glad you’re at least doing okay. Yes, it is what it is.

My daddy always used to tell me that I was worth what someone would pay me. Seems like our parents had a lot of wise sayings.

Be well my FR friend. Prayers up for you.


59 posted on 03/24/2013 10:53:01 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Fzob
If you wants some serious levels of ions in your water drink pond water.

When I was a kid, I tagged along with a neighbor friend to stay a week at his relative's farm in the countryside. We had great fun playing at a nearby pond, where frogs were jumping around. The drinking water from their kitchen tap was cloudy and discolored, but I didn't care and drank up. Then one time a tadpole spilled into my glass from the tap. "Where is the water from?". My friend said "It's pumped from the pond!". Being a kid, I said "Cool!". Yup, serious levels of ions there.

60 posted on 03/24/2013 12:18:14 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Grams A

Good story - thanks for sharing.


61 posted on 03/24/2013 12:34:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Grams A

Sounds like an excuse to frequent a Bavarian biergarten: nothin’ but barley, hops, water & yeast as in accordance with the world’s oldest food purity laws. Heck, monks lived on nothing but for centuries.


62 posted on 03/24/2013 12:40:07 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I was diagnosed with Stage Three Leukemia at age 52. I did Chemo, was in remission for a little over two years, then back to Chemo. My numbers are slipping again after four years, so we’ll see.

You may want to check these links.

Engineered immune cells battle acute leukaemia - Modified T cells seek out and destroy blood cancer.

HIV Vector Licks Leukemia

http://clinicaltrials.gov/

63 posted on 03/24/2013 1:13:30 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: hummingbird
It's a matter of perpetual vigilance. I'll take a boring diet that doesn't make me sick. Chili's "Caribbean salad with grilled chicken" is a good gluten free choice.

If you like hot cereal, the baking section of Walmart has a nice gluten free brown rice cereal. My preferred mix is: 1/2 cup of the dry cereal, 1 1/2 cups of water, a dash of cinnamon, a squeeze of real honey, a handful of chopped walnuts, a handful of raisins. Cook in the microwave for 3 minutes. Stir and let set for a couple minutes. Another 45 seconds in the microwave to finish. I top it with some Silk Soy milk to thin it. No gluten. No lactose. Tasty.

My stock breakfast is built around the Cytosport Whey Isolate (chocolate flavored) from Costco. 8 oz of Silk Soy milk. A tablespoon of freeze dried Nescafe French roast coffee. A tablespoon of Yerba Prima "Colon Care" and a scoop of the when protein. I use a Hamilton Beach drink mixer to combine the ingredients. That avoids clumping of the powdered ingredients. The "Colon Care" is tasteless. It gives the mix a thick body like an ice cream shake.

The chocolate/almond/raisin "Zone" bars have been a safe item to carry for lunch. Walmart has them at a good price.

It takes a few days to shake off the effects of an unintended gluten exposure. It happens. Stick with a reliable diet and the problems go away in time.

64 posted on 03/24/2013 1:38:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Kickass Conservative
I didn't get an allowance either. What I did get was permission to use the garden tools to work for the neighbors. Mowing lawns, raking leaves, washing cars and shoveling snow were common ways to earn money. While living in Federal Way, WA, I earned some money splitting logs for the seniors on the street. Not much opportunity to do that in San Diego.
65 posted on 03/24/2013 1:42:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: acapesket
I noticed changes within two days after getting iodine at reasonable levels back into my diet. I've been holding at 25 mg daily to catch up from being so depleted.

You need to supplement with selenium as well. Brownstein's book explains why.

66 posted on 03/24/2013 1:46:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

Thanks, my Wife mentioned those trials. I have Chronic Leukemia, and that the first group they tried it out on.

A second trial is even working for people with Acute Leukemia, something they thought would be impossible.

Right now I’m half way to the “estimated” expiration date I was given when Diagnosed. My Oncologist used the phrase, “with today’s treatment options”, and that was over seven years ago.

You never know, I might end up getting hit by an Asteroid that NASA missed. My Heirs can blame my death on the Sequester and sue the Government.


67 posted on 03/24/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Grams A
It sounds like she has orthorexia.

Actually what’s wrong with her is that she is a very, very liberal psychologist.

She continually complains because her insurance rates are going up but wants the state to pay her more for seeing people who have Medicaid insurance. Thinks she should be able to deduct the cost of stockings she wears to professional meetings as a business expense because otherwise she wouldn’t buy them.

If she has a pain or discomfort she goes on the internet and finds an exotic disease that fits those symptoms.

I could write volumes but you get the idea.

It is my experience that, very often, people who have various mental health issues gravitate very strongly towards the liberal side of the spectrum. Michael Savage calls liberalism a mental disorder. I don't think it is, but it sure draws those people.

It sounds to me like the lady you're describing has a few other issues in addition to the orthorexia. She apparently likes to be a victim and has hypochondria.

She must be a pleasure to be around. < /sarc >

68 posted on 03/24/2013 3:59:50 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

She must be a pleasure to be around. < /sarc > “

I just refer to her as “whiney butt”. Those that know her and my association with her know who I am talking about.

Many of my clients are mental health practitioners, only a couple are libs - got rid of the rest of them. But I really prefer dealing with the guys, most of the female ones are control freaks and a real pain in the dupa.


69 posted on 03/24/2013 5:13:52 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: neverdem

I used to work with a guy long ago (back in the eighties) that sold ionized water products - he sold for a company called Bio-line IIRC. He talked me into trying it, but I never noticed any positive (or negative) affects from it. I just assumed it was a scam and never bought any more. I remember the look my mom gave me - “You paid HOW MUCH for WATER?” Mom knew best, it seems. Nothing is new under the sun.


70 posted on 03/24/2013 6:18:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Which just shows ‘highly edumacated’ people can still be pretty stoopid, too.

It's because they have just enough education to fall for the Dunning-Kruger effect. Scammers selling things like ionized water use big words to make people think they're experts on ionization of water. People with *some* education think they know what all the words mean, and they're impressed and buy the product. People with a greater amount of education recognize that all the big words only add up to a scam. The Dunning-Kroger effect shows up a lot.

I use ionized water for almost everything. Except for scientific research. When I don't want pesky ions interfering with experiments, I use water that has been filtered and deionized through a very expensive water purification system. After washing laboratory dishes, we rinse them with deionized water before setting them out to dry.

71 posted on 03/25/2013 5:18:21 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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