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Voters to GOP: Like Your Ideas, Don’t Like Your Party
NRO ^ | 3-18-13 | john fund

Posted on 03/23/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

A new poll for the Hill newspaper finds that “more voters trust the Democratic Party than the Republican Party on budgetary issues . . . even though a strong majority actually prefer Republican fiscal policies.”

The poll of 1,000 likely voters was taken last week by Pulse Opinion Research. It asked respondents to choose between two different budget approaches without their being identified with a particular party. A total of 55 percent picked a plan similar to the one offered by House budget chairman Paul Ryan: Trimming federal spending by $5 trillion, not raising taxes, and reaching a balanced budget at the end of a decade. Only 28 percent of those surveyed went for a plan similar to that presented by Senate budget chairman Patty Murray last week, which would raise taxes by $1 trillion, add $100 billion in infrastructure spending, and reduce the deficit but not wipe it out.

Even Democrats demonstrated that they prefer what are normally considered GOP budget ideas. Only 44 percent of Democrats polled said deficits should be primarily reduced mostly through raising taxes, versus 40 percent who felt it should be done largely by trimming spending.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; branding; conservatism; debt; deficit; election2014; election2016; fund; ideas; image; party; poll; spending
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1 posted on 03/23/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

This is the nature of our problem, We have a conservative electorate but one that is blinded by the political proaganda and party rivary of the democratic party.

Now we can solve this problem in 3 basic ways:

1: Do as we did over the 70s and 80s and continue people to vote their values rather than their party.

2: Abandon he republican party label and invent a new party with a new label.

3: Abandon the republican party and take over the democratic party.


2 posted on 03/23/2013 1:38:36 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Well we sure as h*** should bring jobs back to America from China.

That is a big one.


3 posted on 03/23/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Monorprise

#3 is beyond hope (but you get credit for thinking creatively, at least), and IMO #2 is the way to go.

I’m disappointed that we’re not seeing any action in this direction, as things should be pulled together before 2014 if we’ve a hope for 2016.


4 posted on 03/23/2013 1:46:49 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Monorprise

#3 is beyond hope (but you get credit for thinking creatively, at least), and IMO #2 is the way to go.

I’m disappointed that we’re not seeing any action in this direction, as things should be pulled together before 2014 if we’ve a hope for 2016.


5 posted on 03/23/2013 1:46:49 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TurboZamboni

The MSM always attacks Republicans. Most voters don’t even know the positions of the Democrat and Republican Parties.

This poll proves it.

I would bet the less informed a voter is the more he or she likes the Democrat Party.


6 posted on 03/23/2013 1:48:20 PM PDT by detective
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To: TurboZamboni

‘you control the world (or in our case, the country), when you control.......INFORMATION’- Newmann on Seinfeld.

Big Media has done a great job of destroying the Republican brand. People who are too busy to find other news sources believe that the Media is telling them the truth. We must figure out a way to neutralize Big Media!


7 posted on 03/23/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: detective

What we are not looking at is China.

China now exports more than the USA.

MORE. And is set to pass the USA completely by 2016.

We need to bring back industry to America. Now.


8 posted on 03/23/2013 1:51:14 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Republicans try to be logical grown ups, while the dems play to the emotions and own the media propaganda machine. The pubs are hung up on stodgy white guys and are intent on running a nice, honorable campaign while the country is divided and misgovernment into chaos.

Recipe for national decline. Doesn’t have to be this way.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 1:51:52 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: detective; All

“the msm always attacks republicans” and the republicans always grab their ankles and take it with no response...


10 posted on 03/23/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Monorprise

The Democrats were very good at demonizing Republicans, and the Republicans meekly accepted the characterization. On only a couple of occasions was the fight ever carried TO the Democrats.

If Romney had followed up on the opening that had he had made with the first debate, we would not be talking about how well the Democrats did in the 2012 election.


11 posted on 03/23/2013 1:52:30 PM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Correct but the major point which I completely believe, is the some of the GOP is in bed with the people selling out America.

Exporting jobs has got to stop.

Jobs must be brought back the the US of A. Now.

Seriously. Now.


12 posted on 03/23/2013 1:54:38 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: detective

majority agree with the social and fiscal issues, they agree kids do better with a mother and a father , they agree that society has gone to crap and we have many idiots who think the world is about them.

The problem with the stupid party is that they think if they just piss off the marriage, drugs issue then they mnight get a few more voyes but they ignore millions of the base who are trying to tell the GOP speak up.

The stupid party might talk fiscal, but never social which is a liberal-tarians, far left dream as they can psuh their message without an argument.

Also the stupid party lets the media always insult the GOP and conservatives, but then the stupid party still tries to reach out ot the media.

The left controls the message and the right lets them.

If this country is going to get back to common sense then the media needs to be called out at every turn.

I always ask Dems, do you think illegals should get handouts and welfare
answer no
should cross dressers, self mutilation types and homosexuals be allowed in the military and most say no

do kids do better with a mother and a father and do you think those who ike to have sex with feces should be allowed to marry and most whisper npo

do you think the Govt has to be living in a budget and the answer is yes

do you think a worker should be frced to join a group and have some of their wages taken from them , only to be spent on what they do not agree [unions] and the answer is no.

Do you think the military should be cut on non wasteful spending and the answer is no

do you think all drugs should be lega and the answer is no.

Then why do you vote Democrat?

Er er er the Democrats don;t want homosexual marriage, cut the military, make all drugs legal, give illegals welfare, have open borders, teach homosexuality to 5 year olds etc

Therre is the problem the low info voters just vote D because the media makes it out that the left are cool, and nice who care while they make the right out to be the KKK, haters, bigots and don;t care.

The response to the left and the media by our side is, well maybe we need to reach out and try to have more people speak and run in our primaries who are not conservatives

FRIGGIN IDIOTS


13 posted on 03/23/2013 2:05:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Well you can forget bring back industry. They have fled this land of the EPA and the Unions for good. The cost of doing business here is out of control. Our government has regulated this country out of business. Get use to it because the majority of the “voting public” think things are just fine the way it is now.
14 posted on 03/23/2013 2:06:25 PM PDT by kempo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yes both parties have been involved. One party is stupid and greedy; the other stupid, greedy and evil.


15 posted on 03/23/2013 2:07:28 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: kempo

We need (the GOP needs) to switch sides on this issue.

We need to be for American industry and US jobs.

Now.


16 posted on 03/23/2013 2:07:49 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: TurboZamboni

The media get almost 10% of all government spending in advertising- by subsidized and ‘stimulated’ consumers and industries...

No wonder Republicans look bad to everyone who watches the media!


17 posted on 03/23/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I agree 100%.

We must repatriate US industry now.

Start making plans, because time is getting short.


18 posted on 03/23/2013 2:09:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

got to stop non conservatives and republicans using our primaries, our conventions, our debates.

Of course most agree with hard work, rule of law, family, debt and budget and military but the media controls the message to the low info voters and the GOP shuts up and tries to reach out.

Then they wonder why millions of the base are not bothering with the party anymore.

Mention social and fiscal and we win, run away from what the right stands for and we lose all the time.

Let the media control the message and it;s game over.

Sarah, Michelle Bachmann, Col West, Cruz, Paul Ryan are the future.

Krauthammer, Rove, peggy Noonan, Hume, Ari Fleicher[sp] , Romney, Christie and the elitist ,cocktail party inside DC north east types who need to go.


19 posted on 03/23/2013 2:11:00 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: alloysteel

>> The Democrats were very good at demonizing Republicans, and the Republicans meekly accepted the characterization.

Yup.


20 posted on 03/23/2013 2:11:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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