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Rand Paul: Pathway To Citizenship Is Needed, E-Verify Is Not
HuffingtonPost.com | 03/19/2013 9:47 am EDT | Elise Foley

Posted on 03/21/2013 6:22:11 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) gave a full-throated endorsement on Tuesday for comprehensive immigration reform that would allow undocumented immigrants to become citizens but not expand the employment verification system, putting him at odds with members of his party.

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But Paul differs from many Republicans, and some Democrats, on employment verification. Paul singled out E-Verify, an already-existing federal effort to check employment status. It's considered necessary by many to ensure businesses aren't hiring workers they shouldn't, but it's also criticized as cumbersome for employers and too likely to give false positives that would keep citizens and legal immigrant workers from being hired.

"My plan will not, though -- and this is where I disagree with some in the bipartisan group -- impose a national ID card," he said. "It will also not have mandatory E-Verify. I don't mind if there's E-Verify, maybe related to the tax code somehow, but I don't like the idea of making every business owner a policeman."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/rand-paul-pathway-to-citizenship_n_2906587.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; everify; randpaul
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To: BarnacleCenturion
LOL, you are the one pushing the liberal line that businesses should be punished with e-verify. They pay taxes so that the federal government can enforce the law and secure the border.

What is it with Rand/Ron Paul supporters that when their guy steps over the line, way over the line, where conservative principles are concerned, that they twist themselves into pretzels to deny it and protect them?
21 posted on 03/21/2013 6:47:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Chickensoup
My son told me that a schoolmate had the Gasdon flag flying from his truck and the school authorities made him take it down. They would not give a reason.

Most likely the moron "teachers" have no idea that it is a Revolutionary War Flag!

22 posted on 03/21/2013 6:47:34 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: SoConPubbie

“I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation’s security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.”

Directly from his Senatorial web page rather than the Huffington Post. Waht next? New York Times editorial page?

Your PDS is going to give you an ulcer.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 6:47:35 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Whatever Rand wants to do is fine with me as long as illegal workers pay back taxes as a condition of citizenship.


24 posted on 03/21/2013 6:48:37 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: CAluvdubya

No. He’s not. But SoCon-RINO is doing his best to paint him that way.


25 posted on 03/21/2013 6:48:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks with keeping on this issue re: Rand.

I think there’s a real risk of Congress moving on it this spring, and thus making 2016 too late for stopping it, but this is absolutely critical to our future, including our future elections.

It’s good for Rand to be exposed on it early and often, before he gets any real momentum with Freepers.

(BTW, I’m fine with Rand’s voice as a Senator, just as long as we have enough Senators and Representatives to override his vote on this..)


26 posted on 03/21/2013 6:48:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dead Corpse
Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

No, the subsidization will then become worse, because the subzidation is not based on legality, but income and the ability to pay.
27 posted on 03/21/2013 6:49:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Weasel words.”

That they are. If you have to parse them, as folks here are doing with the energy of dervishes, then they’re weasel words. The native tongue of the politician.


28 posted on 03/21/2013 6:49:39 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Your PDS is going to give you an ulcer.

What is it with Rand/Ron Paul supporters that when their guy steps over the line, way over the line, where conservative principles are concerned, that they twist themselves into pretzels to deny it and protect them?
29 posted on 03/21/2013 6:50:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Which, it sounds like Rand wants to do away with but you want to keep because you oppose Rand’s plan?

Sound about right?


30 posted on 03/21/2013 6:51:03 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Big mistake.


31 posted on 03/21/2013 6:51:40 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The only one “twisting” here is you.

Rand wants MILITARY bases on the border to help seal it. He wants bennies cut off to those who NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

And jackasses like you have a problem with it...

Nice going Ace. Don’t do us any more favors.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 6:52:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Weasel words by someone who is more and more sounding like John McCain on this issue.

The confusion and disagreement right here at Free Republic as to what Rand said and what Rand meant shows that his Clinton-like word parsing has accomplished his goal of obfuscating his true agenda.

He doesn't support "a path to citizenship", he just supports a plan that eventually allows illegals to apply for citizenship.

See the difference?

Neither do I.


33 posted on 03/21/2013 6:55:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: xzins

Rand Paul has repeatedly denied that he has proposed a pathway to citizenship. He has insisted that he supports a pathway to legal status. Those are very different. The conflicting stories make it hard to figure out what the truth is.

As friends of mine who are "Republicans" before they are "Conservatives" continue to throw Rand Paul under the bus, they get my attention. I wonder to myself what happened to the Republican's so called "11th commandment" about not speaking ill of fellow Republicans? The answer, I think, is simple. Rand Paul is not "one of them". He's not part of the country club Republican GOPe circle. And *that* I find VERY attractive in a presidential candidate. By all means, McCain and Graham (et al), keep calling Rand a "whacko bird". You are opening our eyes.


34 posted on 03/21/2013 7:02:01 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: SoConPubbie

Also, as has been pointed out to the point of idiocy... RAND IS NOT RON.

Their positions are vastly different on a number of issues.

Using an association fallacy to wage an Alinsky attack against Rand is just stupid and transparent.


35 posted on 03/21/2013 7:02:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The ‘Pathway to Citizenship’ has been defined and is practiced for immigrants from every part of the world, except for the felonous illegals who sneak across the porous border with Mexico.

That Pathway, begins in the home country, with a request to be allowed to immigrate. Why in hell do we have to make exceptions for those coming in from the south? Send ‘em all home and make them get in line on THEIR side of the border!


36 posted on 03/21/2013 7:02:24 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Iron Munro

“He just supports a plan that eventually allows illegals to apply for citizenship.”

That’s nonsense. Illegals can apply for citizenship now.

His plan is strictly about securing the border and fixing the guest worker program. All else would stay as it is now.


37 posted on 03/21/2013 7:02:33 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Gunslingr3

Because we have millions of unemployed Americans.


38 posted on 03/21/2013 7:02:37 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Will88
Rand Paul is an open borders libertarian.

Yeah... Especially that part where we wants the MILITARY on the border...

Oh... wait...

39 posted on 03/21/2013 7:03:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Iron Munro; SoConPubbie

The problem with all of this, of course, is that we’ll never get anything to fix this problem, so we’ll be stuck with the status quo of open borders that allow illegals across just about whenever they want. It has 20 million in the country and more will be able to come whenever they want.

That is the status quo.

I despise the status quo. You despise the status quo. We want it fixed, but the opponents really don’t. They want to keep it the way it is.

That means we lose. Nothing at all getting done equals the status quo, loved by democrat politicians and unscrupulous hirers of illegal labor, not to mention drug runners.


40 posted on 03/21/2013 7:08:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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