Posted on 03/20/2013 4:37:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Miyamoto Musashi was a serious man.
The warrior-poet walked the medieval Japanese countryside seeking duels with the strongest warriors he could find. He lived a pure ascetic existence. He didn't care where he slept. He carried no money or food. And when too old to fight, after a life on the edge of mortality, he wrote philosophy in a cave.
So, pretty much the exact opposite of the modern American lifestyle.
Yet as our country grapples with a dangerous debt/deficit problem, caused by demographic challenges and an overpriced and inefficient health care system, we should pay heed to two of Musashi's most important precepts. The first is to do nothing that is of no use. The second is to accept death in the midst of life.
Who came up with 'death panels'? .
In other words, Musashi would probably support "death panels" -- the concept of end-of-life counseling -- to guide treatment for the terminally ill. So do I. Here's why......
(Excerpt) Read more at money.msn.com ...
The “Culture” of death just keeps going on. Much like the Energizer Bunny.
Bushido was all about dying. It’s not even a perfect code for warriors, and it didn’t apply to those outside the Samurai. To try and fit Bushido into modern America is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. We are not feudal Japan, and never will be.
What is the sound of one hand clapping?
Whiffwhiffwhiff.
however, this is the slippery slope.....they throw the words out there, it'll take a couple of years, pretty soon ABC will do a poll showing how Americans are more accepting of it, and there you go....
you work all your life and in the end, you'll get no say....
the decisions will be most certainly biased towards the party people....the transplants will got to them..the most up to date meds and treatments...
but for we common trash, we'll be lucky to get a clean ditty...
Yes, of course “she” was right.
“we should pay heed to two of Musashi’s most important precepts. The first is to do nothing that is of no use. The second is to accept death in the midst of life.”
With this article, the author failed to heed the first precept. There’s still time for him to heed the second.
This leads on to wonder how “terminally ill” will be defined under Obama Noncare. If an elderly patient could be saved by an operation will he/she be denied it and thus be deemed terminal?
the decisions will be most certainly biased towards the party people....the transplants will got to them..the most up to date meds and treatments...
That worked out pretty well for the Soviet Union, didn't it?
the other thing overlooked is that Bushido was a voluntary choice of the individual.
people pay for their own insurance, it’s not your money they are using. may not even be your insurance company.
i agree that there would need to be a defined cutoff level of basic care if they have nothing.
In America today, we have combined both of these winning ideas and we march bravely into the future. FORWARD!
There’s really no need to argue over this.
The country is broke. Most don’t understand this yet (FReepers mostly do).
That inevitable fact will eventually over-ride policy disputes.
The country is broke. Most don’t understand this yet (FReepers mostly do).
Ok, for the sake of argument, I’ll give you that. BUT what if a ‘senior’ can pay out of pocket for a hip transplant or a heart bypass. Are you going to deny them those options because the country is broke? I did say they would pay for it themselves.
As I currently understand it, under Obamacare there would be no option for private pay of these operations. All medicine being practiced in the U.S. will ‘eventually’ be single payer, ie. ‘Government’. And that is where the ‘Death Panels’ come into play. Even if you can pay for it yourself you will be denied if you are no longer an ‘Economic asset’ to the nation.
Those folks will go offshore. Likely Caribbean locations a short plane ride from Florida.
The best and brightest of the US med profession will set up clinics to service exactly that type of clientele. I’ve already told several good friends in medical support professions to be looking to get in on the early waves of this trend.
I see...
Well then, thank you for the civil discussion.
The problem is that there is a point that although the patient can be treated it isn't financially worth it to the insurer. If the insurer is under a contract they may be required to continue paying, although the less reputable companies will try to find a way to not pay. If the government is the insurer, then there is no such contractual guarantee - just try to get the official contract for Medicare.
And if the only legal source of payment under a single payer system is the government, you don't even have the legal right to say "I don't care what the government says, I want to pay for a hip replacement." You will have to either bribe a congressman or flee the country for treatment.
>> “the other thing overlooked is that Bushido was a voluntary choice of the individual.” <<
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And Obamacare is an involuntary choice FOR the individual.
you. me. same wavelength,
Begin by purging the liberals in academia, media, and the State Department.
Be seeing you.
Jocelyn Elders was fired because she came out for death panels saying that young people were going to be funding Social Security while old people are just gonna die anyways.
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