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Was Colorado corrections chief executed by a hit man?
Daily Mail ^ | 3/20/2013 | SNEJANA FARBEROV

Posted on 03/20/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by Selene

Police probe link to Middle Eastern prisoner whose transfer to Saudi Arabia was denied a week before the slaying

Officials in Colorado are looking at a possible connection between the shooting death of the head of the state Department of Corrections and a Saudi national who was recently denied transfer from a local prison back to his home country.

Sheriff's Lt. Jeff Kramer says Tom Clements, 58, was shot at around 8.30pm Tuesday when he answered his front door in Monument, north of Colorado Springs.

A family member called 911 to report the shooting. Officers who arrived on the scene found Clements dead from a gunshot wound to the chest in his home, 9Newsreported

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: arabia; islam; muslims; rop; saudi; saudiarabia

1 posted on 03/20/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

I haven’t answered my door without a gun (out of sight) in 5 years. My sister won’t open hers at all. If they can’t make themselves understood through the door, then she just goes away.


2 posted on 03/20/2013 3:39:05 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Selene

Again, getting our news from the UK.


3 posted on 03/20/2013 3:41:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Selene

This was the guy brought his slave from SA with him.

Also, he is connected to Anwar al-Awlaki.


4 posted on 03/20/2013 3:42:19 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene
It was probably a "hit".

But the investigation should focus on peers and subordinates in addition to the inmates.

I have seen how this all works and there are animals on both sides of the cages.

5 posted on 03/20/2013 3:43:04 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Selene

Well, this is a bizarre turn of events.


6 posted on 03/20/2013 3:44:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Selene

I seriously doubt it was a random act.


7 posted on 03/20/2013 3:45:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Selene
Tom Clements, 58, was shot at around 8.30pm Tuesday when he answered his front door in Monument, north of Colorado Springs.

And so it begins.

8 posted on 03/20/2013 3:45:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Selene

Nah, it had to be a gun totin’ Tea Party guy. /sarc


9 posted on 03/20/2013 3:47:10 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: elkfersupper

If only Colorado had banned high capacity magazines sooner, this could have been prevented.


10 posted on 03/20/2013 3:47:12 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Jane Long

They also had a story about that guy who blew himself and a house up today. Nothing in msm.


11 posted on 03/20/2013 3:50:38 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Selene
A middle-eastern guy in an apartment complex I used to live at was found one day duct-taped like a mummy with a plastic bag over his head.

I was told that's how the Saudis do it.

12 posted on 03/20/2013 3:52:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Gen.Blather

You’d have thought something was amiss when they asked who it was and some guy in a heavy Arabic accent said, “Girl scout cookies.”


13 posted on 03/20/2013 3:53:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Selene

Ah, these Saudi Arabians are such sweet people. I hope that his fellow prisoners treat this character the same way they would a particularly despicable pedophile.


14 posted on 03/20/2013 3:56:40 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I have an idea-

The Department of Homeland Security should extend “trusted traveler” status to airline passengers from SA.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2998837/posts

Makes sense.


15 posted on 03/20/2013 3:58:17 PM PDT by Selene
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To: ilovesarah2012

No way it was random. I live just a few miles from this area of El Paso county.
Where this occurred is not in a densely populated area and the street/road only as a couple of entry/exit points. It’s one of those more secluded areas that the only people who drive on this road would be the residents or someone specifically looking for an address. Hell most people don’t even know how to access the cross street of where this shooting occurred.
Most of the lots in this section of the county are a couple of acres and with lots and lots of pine trees.
Definitely not a random act.


16 posted on 03/20/2013 4:13:51 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Candygram”.


17 posted on 03/20/2013 4:16:17 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The Most Insidious Power The Corrupt, Criminal Media Has, Is The Power To Ignore The Truth.)
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To: Selene

You would think he would have a few cameras around the property.


18 posted on 03/20/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: BOOHA

Yes you would since he is the second prisons chief killed.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/prisons-152502-2nd-chief.html


19 posted on 03/20/2013 4:36:24 PM PDT by Selene
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To: carriage_hill

Land shark.


20 posted on 03/20/2013 4:41:49 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Selene

Obama’s AmeriKa!


22 posted on 03/20/2013 4:51:44 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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This has the earmarks of a Mexican gang hit. US criminals eschew revenge/intimidation attacks on law enforcement, because of the resultant heat it would bring. But Mexican criminals have been successful in intimidating law enforcement in Mexico: perhaps they are giving it a try here. Let’s hurry up with that amnesty!


23 posted on 03/20/2013 4:52:42 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: colorado tanker

“bizarre turn of events”

Tipping point IMO

Also this is interesting:

Clements died at his home after he answered the doorbell about 8:30 p.m. and was shot, according to a 911 call made by his wife, Lisa Clements.

Lisa Clements has been director of the Office of Behavioral Health at the Colorado Department of Human Services since October 2011. She oversees the state’s two psychiatric hospitals and about a dozen community-based mental health centers, said Liz McDonough, DHS spokeswoman.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/monument-152466-east-shot.html#ixzz2O7s5JSWG


24 posted on 03/20/2013 4:57:44 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Jane Long

“Again, getting our news from the UK.”

Yeah, but they get theirs from us! Let’s hear it for the “free press.”


25 posted on 03/20/2013 4:59:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Godwin1

“Mexican gang hit”

That is a high probability. No where have I seen where the FBI is investigating. Is that odd? They seem to show up for all the other shootings.

Also, this is odd:
he answered the door at his home at 17420 Colonial Park Drive, northwest of Fox Run Regional Park in the Woodmoor area.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/monument-152466-east-shot.html#ixzz2O81YsCmo


26 posted on 03/20/2013 5:17:50 PM PDT by Selene
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To: itsahoot

Yup - could be.


27 posted on 03/20/2013 5:20:21 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Selene; MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; beaversmom; GSWarrior; familyop; ...

Celments was the one who decided to deny the transfer of Muslim Homaidan Al-Turki to Saudi Arabia .

Muslim Al-Turki connected to Anwar al-Awlaki ?

Remember the U.S. State Department sent Colorado Attorney General John Suthers to Saudi Arabia to meet with King Abdullah, Crown Prince Sultan and Al-Turki’s family ?

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


28 posted on 03/20/2013 5:28:10 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Ya gotta wonder, though the head of the DOC probably has made a few enemies over time.


29 posted on 03/20/2013 5:32:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Might be a Mexican drug cartel or .. ?

He had been with the Missouri Corrections Department since 1979.


30 posted on 03/20/2013 5:39:45 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: glorgau

LOL!


31 posted on 03/20/2013 5:43:33 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The Most Insidious Power The Corrupt, Criminal Media Has, Is The Power To Ignore The Truth.)
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To: george76
“was the one who decided to deny the transfer” >

someone wants the non corrupt bureaucrats gone

the John Suthers thing makes me want to barf

32 posted on 03/20/2013 5:44:56 PM PDT by Selene
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To: elkfersupper

[I have seen how this all works and there are animals on both sides of the cages.]

I worked in state corrections for four years, in two jurisdictions, and agree with everything you say.


33 posted on 03/21/2013 8:40:55 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Godwin1

My first thought was a prison gang. No evidence, just speculation.


34 posted on 03/21/2013 10:12:01 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Selene

Was an “assault weapon” used???/S


35 posted on 03/21/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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