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Israeli Official: Chemical Weapons Used in Syria
newsmax.com ^ | 20 Mar 2013 | staff

Posted on 03/20/2013 4:23:16 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

A senior Israeli official said Wednesday that it is "apparently clear" that chemical weapons were recently used in Syria, and that the alleged attack will be a main topic of conversation with visiting President Barack Obama.

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A senior defense official told the Associated Press that he concurred chemical weapons had been used, basing that on intelligence reports. He would not elaborate. He spoke anonymously because he is not allowed to speak to the media.

Israel has repeatedly expressed concern that Syria's chemical arsenal could fall into the hands of anti-Israel militants like Lebanon's Hezbollah, an Assad ally, or an al-Qaida-linked group fighting with the rebels.

Steinitz said that after Iran's nuclear program, the fate of Syria's chemical weapons is the second most urgent issue that will be discussed with Obama during his 48 hour visit that begins Wednesday afternoon.

"It is apparently clear that chemical weapons were used," Steinitz said. "The fact they apparently used chemical weapons against civilians needs to worry us and shows the urgency of taking care of the issue," he said.

Syrian rebels and Assad's government blamed each other Tuesday for a chemical attack on a northern village.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abc; iran; israel; lebanon; syria; waronterror

1 posted on 03/20/2013 4:23:16 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Debka: “Scud B rocket which exploded in the Aleppo
neighborhood of Khan al-Assal Tuesday March 19:
phosphorus, chlorine and Agent 15 or BZ.”


2 posted on 03/20/2013 4:26:32 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“Israel has repeatedly expressed concern that Syria’s chemical arsenal could fall into the hands of anti-Israel militants...”

I have a very uncomfortable feeling that they already have a fair portion of it, already. Hope I’m wrong.


3 posted on 03/20/2013 4:30:26 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The Greatest Power The Corrupt, Criminal US Media Has, Is The Power To Ignore The Truth.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

These are the NONEXISTANT weapons of ‘mass destruction’ that ‘Bush’ ‘lied’ about Hussein stockpileing.

‘Course Bush ALSO gave him fourteen months to slip them to his buddy in Syria. Now that the bad guys have them, it doesn’t make much difference. It’s just a case of the badguys fighting the other badguys—kinda like the Iran/Iraq war.

Plague on both houses, as it were.


4 posted on 03/20/2013 4:35:21 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming" to TAKE OUR GUNS!--Paul Revere)
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To: Flintlock

Good point


5 posted on 03/20/2013 4:42:37 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Flintlock
These are the NONEXISTANT weapons of ‘mass destruction’ that ‘Bush’ ‘lied’ about Hussein stockpileing.

No they aren't.

Syria has had it's own gigantic chemical weapons production program and stockpile since the 1970s.

I just don't get how people can be so continually stupid about this - chemical weapons in Syria simply aren't proof that Iraq had chemical weapons in 2003, as the Syrian chemical weapon stockpile that has NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ has been long reported and discussed going back to the 80s and 90s.

Where did people get the idea that chemical weapons are these magical, incredibly rare things that only Saddam Hussein could have ever produced? Every "Evil" regime in the world, to include Libya, North Korea, Syria, and others, has built their own chemical weapons.

6 posted on 03/20/2013 4:43:25 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Flintlock

Yes, but didn’t the admin just shoot down Russia and Syria’s claims of chemical weapons usage as ‘false’ and ‘without evidence’. Sounds like they were trying to weasel their way out of the idiotic promise of action should chemical weapons be used.

I agree though. Plague on both their houses. And the White House too.


7 posted on 03/20/2013 4:43:43 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Strategerist

There were convoys of Russian trucks going from Iraq to Syria for the 14 months we were playing silly games with the UN. I’m willing to bet they weren’t hauling board games.


8 posted on 03/20/2013 4:48:44 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

There’s no way chemical weapons were used in Syria... no one would dare to defy President Sparky’s “red line”...


9 posted on 03/20/2013 4:57:51 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: logic101.net
There were convoys of Russian trucks going from Iraq to Syria for the 14 months we were playing silly games with the UN. I’m willing to bet they weren’t hauling board games.

And unfortunately, unless anyone ever finds a CW shell in Syria with "Made in Iraq" stamped on it, the above claims will never be proven.

My problem is people associating reports of chemical weapons in Syria with "proof" of the claims that chemical weapons were shipped from Syria to Iraq.

Because Syria ALREADY had tons and tons of their OWN chemical weapons BEFORE any were allegedly sent there from Iraq (and they have undoubtedly produced tons and tons more of their own chemical weapons at their own CW plants in Syria in the last 10 years) evidence of chemical weapons in Syria does NOTHING to prove Iraq had chemical weapons in 2003. It's simple logic, and claiming that the existence of Syrian chemical weapons proves Iraq had them in 2003 just makes people look stupid.

10 posted on 03/20/2013 5:00:06 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: logic101.net
Check the date. Again, this is a very simple point:

The Associated Press

June 25, 1998, Thursday, PM cycle

U.S. says Syria has nerve gas aboard missiles, artillery, airplanes

The Clinton administration says Syria has an active chemical weapons program and has armed missiles, warplanes and artillery shells with the nerve gas sarin. The Mideast country had help developing the arsenal from Indian companies and possibly from a retired Russian general, a knowledgeable official told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

11 posted on 03/20/2013 5:02:16 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

“Where did people get the idea”?

By watching the Russian Army dismantle the Iraqi facilities, and then truck the product into Syria.


12 posted on 03/20/2013 5:12:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Viennacon

“Yes, but didn’t the admin just shoot down Russia and Syria’s claims of chemical weapons usage as ‘false’ and ‘without evidence’. Sounds like they were trying to weasel their way out of the idiotic promise of action should chemical weapons be used.”

No, the administration weaseled their way out of their “red line” statement because the “wrong side” used the chemical weapons. The administration will not go to Syria and attack the rebels, even if they did use chemical weapons, because it’s the rebels they support. Now, if the Syrian government troops were the ones being accused, it would be full steam ahead!


13 posted on 03/20/2013 5:29:06 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: Viennacon

“Yes, but didn’t the admin just shoot down Russia and Syria’s claims of chemical weapons usage as ‘false’ and ‘without evidence’. Sounds like they were trying to weasel their way out of the idiotic promise of action should chemical weapons be used.”

No, the administration weaseled their way out of their “red line” statement because the “wrong side” used the chemical weapons. The administration will not go to Syria and attack the rebels, even if they did use chemical weapons, because it’s the rebels they support. Now, if the Syrian government troops were the ones being accused, it would be full steam ahead!


14 posted on 03/20/2013 5:32:38 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: MNGal

Oops! Sorry for the double post!


15 posted on 03/20/2013 5:33:36 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: Strategerist

Uh, yea; maybe. We’re supposed to believe the Clinton administration; Debka Files, political front mag for the Israeli gov’t and a “senior” Israeli official? There’s one small problem with all of this; chemical weapons, by their very nature, disburse in unpredictable ways. Syria is a small place and the use of WMD’s against an entrenched enemy would likely cause significant colateral damage. Unless I’m mistaken, Assad and his family still reside in Damascus.


16 posted on 03/20/2013 5:53:12 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: carriage_hill

It is widely reported that thes WMD’s were exported from Libya and shipped into the hands of the NATO supported Al Queda rebels in Syria all under the auspices of US, Israel, EU & GB. Looks like we will need to rev up a court for War Crimes! Let’s start with Clinton (YugoSlavia), add GWBush (Iraq/AfPak) and top it off with BHO (Libya & Syria). After that it is time to disband the UN, EU, IMF, World Bank, ECB, FRS, etc., etc. The Corruption must be destroyed.


17 posted on 03/20/2013 6:13:58 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: carriage_hill

It is widely reported that these WMD’s were exported from Libya and shipped into the hands of the NATO supported Al Queda rebels in Syria all under the auspices of US, Israel, EU & GB. Looks like we will need to rev up a court for War Crimes! Let’s start with Clinton (YugoSlavia), add GWBush (Iraq/AfPak) and top it off with BHO (Libya & Syria). After that it is time to disband the UN, EU, IMF, World Bank, ECB, FRS, etc., etc. The Corruption must be destroyed.


18 posted on 03/20/2013 6:14:06 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I recall Obimbo saying that the use of chemical weapons by Syria is a line that “must not be crossed.”

I wait with baited breath to see what Obaby’s reaction will be now that they’ve done it.


19 posted on 03/20/2013 6:22:57 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: logic101.net

Thank you. I did not remember the details, but that there were convoys of trucks going from Iraq to Syria.


20 posted on 03/20/2013 6:39:11 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Rich21IE
Syria is a small place and the use of WMD’s against an entrenched enemy would likely cause significant collateral damage.

It depends on what agent was used. Some, like Sarin, have very short life spans and can be used to wipe out an entrenched enemy, but break down naturally within a day or two. Others, like VX, can stay toxic for very long periods of time.
21 posted on 03/20/2013 7:13:20 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
How long until the left changes that headline with a "slight" misplacing of punctuation?

Israeli Official Chemical Weapons: Used in Syria

Ooohh... Those evil JOOZ!

22 posted on 03/20/2013 7:15:00 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: iopscusa

Count me in on that vote!


23 posted on 03/20/2013 7:16:03 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The Most Insidious Power The Corrupt, Criminal Media Has, Is The Power To Ignore The Truth.)
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To: Rich21IE

Second reply; One of the posts above listed the agent as BZ. While not working on exactly the same methods you can think of it as an LSD gas. BZ is a nonlethal incapacitating agent. Assad wouldn’t be worried about using it in the least. It just makes the victims easier to shoot while they wander around absorbed in their hallucinations.


24 posted on 03/20/2013 7:23:58 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Well, honestly, doesn’t it all beg the question, if they haven’t used it before, whey would they do so now?

Sorry to say, and yes, I support Israel, but I’ll never support deployment of US Troops into Syria; its just another hopeless, unwinnable boondogle and I’m very suspicious of certain factions in Israel trying to trick us into doing just that!


25 posted on 03/20/2013 8:02:27 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Rich21IE
This is a false flag operation. The rebels (Islamist extremist) probably used it on their own people to try and draw the USA into the conflict against the Syrian Government.

If a SCUD missile was used, as claimed, Israeli radar would have picked it up and known when and where it was launched from. This was no SCUD. I would also think we would have an AWAC in the area that would also pick it up.

I suspect the rebels (Islamist Extremist) obtained the chemical weapons and set them off at ground level.

Prior to the revolution Syria was despotic anti Israeli nation that was led by a rational leader. He would not attack Israel as he had no desire to die along with his nation. If the rebels win we will have a despotic anti Israeli state that will be led by deranged leaders that will attack Israel and the USA if they can. WHY IN THE HELL ARE WE SUPPORTING THE REBELS!

26 posted on 03/20/2013 10:14:07 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Even if the Syrians or other Islamic militants launched a chemical attack on Israel, Obama would likely do nothing or like with Benghazi lie about what happened.


27 posted on 03/20/2013 10:27:54 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Strategerist

“I just don’t get how people can be so continually stupid about this - chemical weapons in Syria simply aren’t proof that Iraq had chemical weapons in 2003...”

Come and bang your head on the wall with me for a while. I don’t think you can change anybody’s mind on this. The lie has been repeated too many times by people who don’t know a dang thing about Syria. The fact that Syria had one of the largest chemical weapons stockpiles in the world prior to any problems with Iraq means absolutely nothing to people who claim to somehow know what chemical weapons in Syria came from Iraq and what weapons didn’t.

While it is possible Iraqi chem weapons were sent to Syria ahead of ther American invasion, nobody knows. Anything else is all talk and posturing.


28 posted on 03/20/2013 3:22:39 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558; Strategerist
While it is possible Iraqi chem weapons were sent to Syria ahead of ther American invasion, nobody knows.

I've also heard claims that Saddam's chemical weapons ended up in Libya.

But, if you will allow me to don my tin-foil hat: what if that "truck convoy to Syria" wasn't chemical weapons at all?

Do you remember the facility in Syria that was bombed by Israel, out of the blue? Syria never protested, they just quickly bulldozed it and plowed what remained into the ground.

I've always wonder what was going on there, and spurred Israel to commit to a preemptive attack.

29 posted on 03/20/2013 4:51:02 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Owl558; Strategerist
More information about the Israeli mission:

Operation Orchard

There's much more information that I remember. I didn't hear about the IAEA investigation until now.

The article links the Syrians to the North Koreans. But I'll ask directly: what if Saddam sent all his support equipment for uranium refining and enrichment to Syria?

30 posted on 03/20/2013 5:03:00 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Rich21IE
There is no unnamed Israeli official- he is:

Yuval Steinitz, the newly appointed minister of intelligence and strategic affairs, conflicts with U.S. assessments

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/20/israel-chemicalweapons-syria.html

31 posted on 03/21/2013 8:42:36 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: justlurking

“...what if Saddam sent all his support equipment for uranium refining and enrichment to Syria?”

Very possible. We really don’t know what was transportd, only that stuff was transported. Anyone acting like they know, doesn’t.

Nice article. There was a lot in it that I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 9:36:39 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Apparently some FR posters are too young to remember that former Nazi officials including SS officers, got refuge in Syria under the various dictators since the end of WW2, including one named “Aloyisus” or something close to that.

They ran the Syrians CBW programs and were possibly the targets of the Israeli Mossad.

Add in the Russians over the past 50 years and you have another group of CBW specialists.

What is not known is whether the No. Koreans were in Syria and if so what they were working on (nuclear weapons, CBW, missile development, terrorism training, etc). There have been reports of their presence but I don’t have any real documentation to support it.

However, it is reasonable since the No. Koreans have shown up en force in Zimbabwe in the past, and possibly had helped Gaddaffi with his nuclear/CBW programs.

When I was a journalist in Vietnam/Cambodia, I heard reports that the So. Korean troops (ROK) had picked up No. Korean voice traffic in theater. Again, no hard documentation but I heard it from several sources.

Never underestimate the determination of our enemies to get involved in nearly every country in the world if it would be to their benefit in their fights against us.


33 posted on 03/21/2013 6:13:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
What is not known is whether the No. Koreans were in Syria and if so what they were working on (nuclear weapons, CBW, missile development, terrorism training, etc). There have been reports of their presence but I don’t have any real documentation to support it.

The North Koreans were definitely involved with the nuclear reactor that Israel took out on Sept 6, 2007.

An article to that effect was posted on FR during the past week, written by a national security advisor to President Bush.

34 posted on 03/21/2013 6:23:19 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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