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Cyprus parliament rejects haircut bill
ekathimerini.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 03/19/2013 11:40:40 AM PDT by abb

Cyprus parliament rejects haircut bill

The Cypriot House of Representatives rejected overwhelmingly on Tuesday the bill that would have inflicted a haircut on bank accounts.

There were 36 No votes and not a single Yes vote, as the 19 deputies of ruling Democratic Rally (DISY) who were present abstained, while another one of them was absent.

Cyprus speaker Yiannakis Omirou urged MPs to say «no to blackmail» as angry crowds also called for a «No» vote outside Parliament and held up signs warning that other financially crippled European nations like Italy and Spain could be next in line.

"There can only be one answer: no to blackmail,» Omirou, of the socialist EDEK party told deputies who met in emergency session.

"Our demand must be that this deal must be renegotiated. If we pass this tax there will be no foreign investor who will keep their money here,» he warned.

"There is no doubt, this is the most crucial session of our parliament. There is unrest among the people and they deserve an answer,» EDEK MP George Varnavas told the assembly.

DISY had unanimously decided not to take part in the vote because «it will strengthen the bargaining position of the Republic of Cyprus,» party member Nicos Tornaritis told Sigma TV.

But DISY coalition partner Marios Karoyian of DIKO said the rescue package must be «rejected».

"This is blackmail and DIKO proposes the bill is rejected, but yes to an adjustment programme... We want a European rescue, not European destruction,» he told fellow MPs.

George Perdikes of the Green party told parliament: «There is now a creditocracy where countries lose their sovereignty for an illegal loan agreement that is supposedly good for them but kills growth."

European Party MP Demetris Syllouris charged that the bailout terms were designed to destroy the banking sector in Cyprus that had been flourishing for decades, and especially hit Russian investments.

"Our lenders came not to support us, they wanted to annihilate the pillar of our economy which is the service sector ... They (Germany) must find another way to resolve their differences with Russia,» he said.

Many Cypriots blame Germany for leading the crippling demands imposed in return for the bailout, in a bid to punish Russia, where investors have placed vast amounts of cash in the island's banks.

"Why are the foreigners to blame, we won't accept it, we would rather take the hit 100 percent on our wages and pensions rather than on those who supported us,» said Syllouris.

Thousands of protesters lined the streets leading to the parliament building in Nicosia, many of them waving Russian flags, an AFP reporter said.

They held up banners that read «Hands off Cyprus» and the crowds chanted: «It will not pass,» referring to the rescue package.

Many also carried signs written in Italian and in Spanish saying that both financially-crippled countries could be next in line to face a similar painful rescue deal.

«Today it's me. Tomorrow it's you,» the signs read.

[Kathimerini English Edition & AFP]


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 03/19/2013 11:40:40 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

Good for them. But this just highlights the fatal flaw of the EU monetary union. It cannot survive.


2 posted on 03/19/2013 11:45:03 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: abb

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2013/03/19/cypriot-officials-revising-bailout-plan
Cypriot lawmakers reject deposit seizure bill

http://www.incyprus.com.cy/en-gb/Top-Stories-News/4342/33684/haircut-rejected
Haircut rejected


3 posted on 03/19/2013 11:45:13 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb
Thousands of protesters lined the streets leading to the parliament building in Nicosia, many of them waving Russian flags, an AFP reporter said.

It's all falling into place for Cyprus to become a Russian satellite.

4 posted on 03/19/2013 11:45:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: abb

Ask a leftist

So... do you think the government would be more or less likely to try this here if they confiscated all firearms first?


5 posted on 03/19/2013 11:46:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: dfwgator

As opposed to being a German one.

It’s strange being on the side of the former Warsaw Pact vs Nato in the coming proxy war.


6 posted on 03/19/2013 11:47:05 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: abb
Things will now get interesting. If the Russians don't come through, Cyprus is genuinely screwed. Their banks will reopen Thursday (ŧhere is news now suggesting that they may not-the "bank holiday" may be extended) at 0900 and very likely close for good at 0920. The two biggest banks, Laika Bank and Bank of Cyprus, are insolvent, and the Cypriot government can't absorb the collapse of those two. We'll likely see a systemic banking failure, in Southern Cyprus at least.
7 posted on 03/19/2013 11:47:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

I believe it’s all been organized by the Russians over the past few years with one goal in mind...to build a Navy in Cyprus.


8 posted on 03/19/2013 11:47:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

s/b to build a Navy base in Cyprus.


9 posted on 03/19/2013 11:48:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Talk about jumping out of the pan and into the fire..


10 posted on 03/19/2013 11:49:00 AM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: abb

Good.

But, just for the record, who was going to receive the stolen funds?

Possible answers: The Banks, The Government. FreeRepublic.com


11 posted on 03/19/2013 11:50:13 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Track9

The thing is, it wouldn’t be like before. I think the Russians would actually be an improvement.

And don’t think the Russians don’t have ultimate motives for their Orthodox brethren in Greece.


12 posted on 03/19/2013 11:50:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That’s an interesting thought, although I doubt the Russians forced the Germans to demand a % of deposits.

The whole Euro is a scam propped up by Germany so they can keep their export markets viable.


13 posted on 03/19/2013 11:52:25 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: abb

does the gov’t have to resign?


14 posted on 03/19/2013 11:53:23 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

I think they knew there would be some kind of fiscal crisis, that would allow them to swoop in and play the role of “savior”........for a price, of course.

They are playing Chess, while everyone else is playing Checkers.


15 posted on 03/19/2013 11:54:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Don’t forget what Cyrus was part of Russia empire at one time under Tsar rule I THINK SO


16 posted on 03/19/2013 11:55:38 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Also considering that their only Mediterranean base in Syria is in some jeopardy, they are pretty anxious to find another location.


17 posted on 03/19/2013 11:56:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

It makes a kind of sense for the bankrupt southern EU countries to cash in their euros before they’re worthless. I can also imagine local Cypriots desiring some of Putin’s anti-muslim policies.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 11:58:47 AM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: dfwgator
"s/b to build a Navy base in Cyprus."

This seems to be a popular viewpoint, but what would they base there? At one of the last exercises in the Black Sea most of the ships couldn't even get out of port! I could understand this if they were shipbuilding at a phenomenal rate, trying to make a comeback in the world, etc.,, but their armed forces are but a shadow of their former selves.

19 posted on 03/19/2013 11:59:35 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: SevenofNine

Actually, Cyprus was never under the Russian Empire.

You might be thinking of the Ottoman Empire.


20 posted on 03/19/2013 11:59:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: abb

They got caught by Twitter! The new media prevents a midnight coup. Like our roaches in Washington, if people find out how they are selling us out soon enough to turn on the lights, they scurry for the dark corners.
Lets remember this and turn on the lights in the legislative houses across the country.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 12:00:43 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: dfwgator
You got it.

But so many even on this forum are in favor of the Russians. Wierd.

22 posted on 03/19/2013 12:01:54 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SevenofNine

Actually, Cyprus was never under the Russian Empire.

You might be thinking of the Ottoman Empire.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 12:03:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: aegiscg47

Seems like the Bear is waking from out of hibernation....

Russian Frigates to Get Advanced Missile Systems

http://rbth.asia/news/2013/03/18/russian_frigates_to_get_advanced_missile_systems_45287.html


24 posted on 03/19/2013 12:03:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Track9

Anti-Muslim policies? Really? Putin?

The man who wants to cement Russia’s relations with the Islamic world?

That Putin?

“Traditions of Islam are based on eternal values of kindness, mercifulness and justice. Millions of people in our country practice this ancient religion. ”

That Vladimir Putin? The one who said that “Islam is an inseparable part of Russia’s society and culture.”

That Vladimir Putin?


25 posted on 03/19/2013 12:06:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Always remember, Russia is never what she seems to be.

Churchill said it himself, “It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma”, and that has not changed.


26 posted on 03/19/2013 12:07:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That’s always true. After all, Russian politics have long been described as Byzantine.

I know that Cypriots are hoping that Russia rides to the rescue. But my question is, what if Russia doesn’t?

To whom will the Cypriots turn at that point, begging bowl in hand?


27 posted on 03/19/2013 12:10:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: GeronL

Probably not; the way it works here is that the government only resigns if defeated on a “confidence” issue. Since the bill was not supported by the government (their members abstained from the vote), its defeat was not a vote against the government.


28 posted on 03/19/2013 12:11:07 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: what's up

“But so many even on this forum are in favor of the Russians. Wierd.”

Not so weird, really. I personally admire Mr. Putin for protecting the interests of his people while the current administration here is willing to sell us out on topics like missile defense that are crucial to our very survival.
I also look at Syria and wonder what the hell Obama is trying to do by involving us ever deeper into yet another war in the Middle East?

Sad to say, but I trust the Russian government far more than I trust my own these days. You don’t hear of Russians giving rubber glove inspections to little kids, the elderly, and crippled veterans at THEIR airports, do you?


29 posted on 03/19/2013 12:12:28 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: MeganC

Things are not nearly as cut and dried as they were during The Cold War.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 12:14:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Steamburg

That there was an instant pushback against government seizure of property (aka taxes) is very significant. It is because of the nakedness of Cyprus’ action.

Imagine what would happen here in the US if all taxpayers had to write a check monthly payable to the IRS, instead of having the payment hidden in the withholding portion of their paychecks.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 12:15:01 PM PDT by abb
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To: dfwgator

Of course, the British have naval bases on Cyprus, not at the pleasure of the Cypriots, but of their own.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 12:18:43 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: MeganC
I personally admire Mr. Putin for protecting the interests of his people

Really.

The "ex"-KGB agent who stole the election and continues on as Dictator is protecting his people? Don't think so.

33 posted on 03/19/2013 12:20:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: MrB

No need to ask. Offered yesterday (direct quote)

“Stupid move to announce the wealth confiscation before making sure the law would be a done deal.”

The. wealth. confiscation. (You know. From those b*st*rds, The Rich. “Rich” being *anyone* who isn’t on the dole)

401Ks, IRAs, Bernanke talking about Social Security “because that’s where the money is” a few years ago, etc... uhhh H’lo?

There’s one thing that keeps going through my mind: the banks (in cahoots with their good buddies in Washington) can do whatever they damn well please with our money & there’s not a thing we can do about it.
I’m afraid we’re kidding ourselves if we think that being armed to the teeth can recover whatever they decide to steal.


34 posted on 03/19/2013 12:20:18 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: MrB
So... do you think the government would be more or less likely to try this here if they confiscated all firearms first?

they are doing it now.

loans to the unqualified are extracting savings.

35 posted on 03/19/2013 12:20:31 PM PDT by alrea
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To: alrea
they are doing it now. loans to the unqualified are extracting savings.

As does inflation.

36 posted on 03/19/2013 12:25:25 PM PDT by abb
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To: KGeorge

We may not be able to recover it,
but they won’t be able to enjoy it from their
vantage point of dangling from a lamppost.


37 posted on 03/19/2013 12:25:33 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

And here I was under the impression he didn’t put up with their expansionist jihad ways.


38 posted on 03/19/2013 12:29:02 PM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: abb; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; tubebender; California; Jim Robertson

There are so many ways our states and feds can $crew us.

In California, the left wingers in control of the capitol are trying to enforce back taxes on tech start up investors.

Not only are they after the so called back taxes, they want penalties for late payments for past refunds:

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/01/24/2232237/californias-surreal-retroactive-tax-on-tech-startup-investors

“Engineers and hackers don’t think much about tax policy, but there’s a bizarre development in California that they should know about, since it could reduce the pool of angel-investment money available for tech startups. Under a tax break available since the 1990s, startup founders and other investors in California were allowed to exclude or defer their gains when they sold stock in California-based small businesses. Last year, a California appeals court ruled that the tax break was unconstitutional, since it discriminated against investors in out-of-state companies. Now the Franchise Tax Board, California’s version of the IRS, has issued a notice saying how it intends to implement the ruling — and it’s a doozie. Not only is the tax break gone, but anyone who claimed an exclusion or deferral on the sale of small-business stock since 2008 is about to get a big retroactive tax bill. Investors, entrepreneurs, and even the plaintiffs in the original lawsuit are up in arms about the FTB’s notice, saying that it goes beyond the court’s intent and that it will drive investors out of the state. This Xconomy article takes an in-depth look at the history of the court case, the FTB’s ruling, and the reaction in the technology and investing communities.”


39 posted on 03/19/2013 12:35:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: Track9

He puts with it up when it serves Russia’s purposes, and sometimes it does. Classic realpolitik. No one has “friends”.....they have interests.

But I wouldn’t call Putin “anti-Muslim”. Perhaps “anti-Salafist” might be a better way of stating it.

As far as Islam growing as a religion in Russia, he seems to have no overt problem with that in and of itself. His hackles are raised when it’s the more extreme interpretations of Islam. Like the aforementioned Salafists.


40 posted on 03/19/2013 12:37:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
It’s strange being on the side of the former Warsaw Pact vs Nato in the coming proxy war.

Why on earth would you be on the side of Russia in any bailout deal having to do with Cyprus? They aren't the good guys here, they are simply looking to take advantage of the idiocy of voters in Cyprus who have elected bad governments for a very long time. The public sector in Cyprus is out of control, yet the people (through their elected governments) do not want to cut spending.

Europe has a voter problem (and that includes little Cyprus). These governments didn't get into power by themselves. People are voting for politicians and parties that run up huge debts. Creditors simply enable and then take advantage of them. Neither "banksters", globalists, Jews, or any other conspiratorial evil are the problem. The people are the problem. To the extent that Germany takes advantage of any of this issues is only possible because Europeans keep voting for governments that spend far more than they have.

41 posted on 03/19/2013 12:40:39 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Okay never mind it was one of the empire

OH well LOL!


42 posted on 03/19/2013 12:52:07 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: abb

There are times when rioting in the streets is justified.


43 posted on 03/19/2013 12:53:54 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is due to a breakdown of the thinking apparatus.)
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To: abb
Hear! Hear!

Yes, the withholding scheme allowed the government to bleed dry its nascent sharecroppers.

President BO inadvertently caused people to focus on that little trick when he allowed the payroll withholding to go up - it could prove to be his Waterloo.

44 posted on 03/19/2013 1:03:16 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Back in 98 when Lehrman and Bears Sterns exploded with a few banks right behind them till the camoflauge makers at the FED came in to prop them up with our money, I was certain there was going to be a bank holiday and pulled some cash out of the bank. I think I was a few years early and a few K too light on my ideas. Heading out tomorrow early to get my hands on what is left before it is gone too. Turn it around into hard assets as quick as I can too. The clock is ticking down to midnight on REV2...tick tick tick.


45 posted on 03/19/2013 1:19:42 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: abb

Like the rifle that’s hung over the mantel in Act I, the idea is in play now.

Sometime before the final curtain that rifle will be fired.


46 posted on 03/19/2013 1:21:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: abb

The piece of shit transvestite LaGarde and the IMF and the New World Order scum bag bankers got a set back.
Next time they won’t give the citizenry a chance to mobilize.


47 posted on 03/19/2013 1:24:45 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Aevery_Freeman

http://www.unz.org/Pub/CatoJournal-1995q3-00359

Evolution of Federal Income Tax Withholding - The Machinery of Institutional Change

by Charlotte Twight


48 posted on 03/19/2013 1:28:41 PM PDT by abb
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To: dfwgator

Cyprus is divided between two NATO countries- so which NATO country- Greece or Turkey- is gonna build a Russian navy base?


49 posted on 03/19/2013 1:29:03 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

What would NATO do about it?


50 posted on 03/19/2013 1:29:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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