Posted on 03/18/2013 7:05:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I’m with Caddell — it will be a whitewash.
the so called “experts” have proved to be completely idiotic and wrong
what we need is someone to come up with a voting machine that cannot be tampered with and replace all those lying cheating heads of election bureaus with honest folks of integrity
It’s not just the consultants.
The GOP is a steaming pile of garbage on top of using stupid consultants.
They stand for nothing, John Boehner is a ****ing a**hole, and the house just re-eleted him as speaker.
Good to see a lot of people have identified the key problem. The beltway political machine has utterly failed for 10 years running. I tip my hat for Rove’s 2000 campaign, because it was well managed, well messaged, and properly turned out all parts of the base. That was a great campaign. 2004 was underwhelming. They damn near let an easy win slip away, and many have argued it was the Swift Boat Vets and others that carried Bush over the finish line. From 2006 to present, the RNC political machine has utterly failed. 2010 was a grassroots success...and in many cases against the will of the DC political class. Then, they went into motion to get the freshman ‘in line’, and weeded out those with independent streaks through redistricting (we lost Allen West and Sandy Adams in FL due to our own party).
2012 was a top down, consultancy class cycle, and the White House race and Senate races were abysmal. While the Romney team had their good moments, their over strategy and game plan was horrible incorrect. A lot of good people we were sidelined, and important voting blocks like the libertarians and tea-partiers were dismissed during the convention and told to go hide so the party would not be embarrassed. The political class messaging and strategy ruled the day, and the result was pathetic. We need a hotshot up and comer the likes of Lee Atwater to rise up and change this trajectory, or we’ll have more of the same.
A good candidate should not need a consultant....Reagan didn’t need one.
The need for a consultant suggests that the candidate has no core beliefs, and they are just acting in a way they think will get them elected......Hence we get “Etch-a-Sketch” candidates like Romney.
Consultants can be helpful. But when consultants say that we must call “evil” “good”, so as not to offend those who hate us, then ...
Not necessarily -- a consultant or other form of candidate training, can be useful in taking a candidate's message, fine-tuning it, and preparing responses to the "gotcha" questions that will be coming.
But the candidate has to provide the message. When the consultants are in charge of developing the candidate's positions, that's a bad situation.
I truly believe some of these “experts” advising republicans are plants, paid by both sides. It would be very simple to do, urge republican candidates to hold back when they should attack. Of course, many of them require very little urging.
this entire conversation is retarded. we lost because we insisted on nominating the one guy in the entire party that could NOT run against obamacare because he basically invented it.
one more time, we nominated the guy that came in second last time, irrespective of almost every other consideration. it was stupid.
I’d pay them minimum wage, plus a huge bonus contingent on winning.
I don’t win, you don’t eat...
I don't see it that way, this is the biggest job in the world, I would expect that a candidate should have the skills to do those things on their own, they should be savvy enough to handle it.
Yep. and in ‘08 they selected the one candidate who could not challenge obama’s lack of constitutional qualifications because he himself was foreign born.
Madoff was an expert too.You don’t always get what you pay for,all else fails think.
First, hire only those consultants that can prove a winning record. If a consultant has a winning record at the local level then he can he hired for a state-level race. The same applies to state level elections.
Second, pay the consultants the bulk of their monies 45 days after the election.
Third, have a penalty clause in all consultant contracts - the greater the loss the higher the penalties.
Like most things political in nature the professional political consultant gets paid no matter how badly they perform. This doesn't happen in most other businesses or forms of gambling, so where here?
Having consultants who agree with the candidate should be priority #1, and I see no mention of that above. Ideology is everything. First on my “Must Fire” list is the fellow who sabatoged Sarah Palin in 2008. I think he was the head idiot for Romney.
Any SOB who refuses to swear allegience to the candidate who hires him should be out the door within the hour. Too many of these puny rat bastards think it’s about them.
This isn't just about "the biggest job in the world", but also all of the lesser political offices, right down to the local dog-catcher. There are plenty of people with the right ideas and drive, but few of them have so much natural talent that they can successfully take on politics by themselves, without any training or assistance.
As long as the consultants are helping you put out your message effectively, they're useful and helpful. When that start helping you put out their message -- or worse, where they downplay any message at all in favor of being an "inoffensive" candidate -- then they're a dangerous menace.
President is just a little bit different than all of those other offices.
Yes, it is. But were not the “consultants” such as Rove a factor as well in the House and Senate races? Why limit the discussion to just President?
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