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2 Steubenville football players found guilty of rape
AP ^ | Sunday March 17, 2013 10:19 AM | Andrew Welsh-Huggins

Posted on 03/17/2013 7:27:38 AM PDT by Dacula

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio (AP) -- Two Ohio high school football players have been found guilty of raping a drunken 16-year-old girl in a case that roiled a small city and stirred reaction from activists online.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: crime; football; ohio; rape; steubenville
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Guilty as charged!
1 posted on 03/17/2013 7:27:38 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: Dacula

Hurray! Now, lock them up! I hope they have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their miserable lives.


2 posted on 03/17/2013 7:34:44 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Dacula

Good. Now hang them by the neck until they’re dead.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 7:35:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Dacula

Geez. I thought that because the young lady involved didn’t say “NO”, she was giving tacit consent for them to do what they wanted. WRONG!!!! Maybe some demokkkrat should have “told them not to rape”. The new MTV generation. It’s not just about playing music videos anymore. Possibly they’ll now have the opportunity to experience rape themselves. They’ll have a whole new meaning for the term “wide recievers”.


4 posted on 03/17/2013 7:35:11 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Dacula

This is a message to young potential criminals of every ilk; Don’t allow your buddies to make a video your crimes.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 7:35:20 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Dacula

Good. The animals deserve to hang. Congrats to all who forced the police to finally take up the case despit the cult of the athlete that rules that town.


6 posted on 03/17/2013 7:36:56 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: FamiliarFace

Yup! Pretty sure it’s mandatory for them to register. Their lives as they knew it are OVER! Sometimes actions have consequences.


7 posted on 03/17/2013 7:36:56 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Dacula

They should lock them up in PA so Sandusky could be their new coach.


8 posted on 03/17/2013 7:38:02 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Dacula

Lots of blubbering and tears after verdict announced.


9 posted on 03/17/2013 7:41:33 AM PDT by abb
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I’m sure Penn State will have recruiters waiting for them outside of the juvenile detention facility.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 7:42:05 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Dacula
2 Steubenville football players ...
What does being football players have to do with it? Why not two "teens" or two "high school students?"
11 posted on 03/17/2013 7:52:22 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rktman

Headline of previous article: “As rape trial opens, prosecutor says girl was ‘too impaired to say no’”

Prosecutor, esp a female, should know better. It’s ‘too impaired to say “yes”’, although it’s not as if a 16yo girl can grant consent (legally)


12 posted on 03/17/2013 7:52:40 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: Ready4Freddy
it’s not as if a 16yo girl can grant consent (legally)

The boys were 16 and 17. Most states say the underage girl becomes legally capable of consent if the other party is close to her age. (This is stupid, but it's necessary if we're going to have a society of teen fornication without a lot of criminal trials.)

13 posted on 03/17/2013 7:55:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Another Catholic Pope! It must be some kind of conspiracy!" ~Homer_J_Simpson)
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To: Dacula

Personally, I think some parents ought to be in the slamner over this too. What parent lets his/her child attend a booze party. What parent allows his/her child to have such a party. Don’t these people have curfews for their kids or at least an adult present at the festivities?


14 posted on 03/17/2013 8:01:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ohio bump


15 posted on 03/17/2013 8:01:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
It’s ‘too impaired to say “yes”’, although it’s not as if a 16yo girl can grant consent (legally)

In Ohio she can.

16 posted on 03/17/2013 8:03:48 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: oh8eleven
What does being football players have to do with it? Why not two "teens" or two "high school students?"

Because it furthers the perverted libtard, feminist, socialist, anti-male, pinko narrative:

1. Football is a violent game, played by violent men.

2. All men are violent, therefore all men rape.

3. The only way to ensure peace and harmony across the planet is to destroy evil and violent male-dominated societies.

4. The scumbag socialist propogandists use stories like this to assert to the ignorant masses that every man is capable of this despicable crime.

17 posted on 03/17/2013 8:04:01 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Dacula
these athletes just never learn from their mistakes.
18 posted on 03/17/2013 8:09:54 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: Ready4Freddy

The “girl” (about same age as the “boys”) has been declared “innocent” of any and all responsibility for her own actions. The perfect “feminist” of the future. There’s a lesson in this for teenage girls, too; but evidently it has been missed.


19 posted on 03/17/2013 8:10:14 AM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Common Sense 101

Most states also have a law that states min 18 or 21 to obtain alcohol. Who ever furnished it should be punished it as well.
WE as a Nation have exposed our kids to too much vice at too young an age.


20 posted on 03/17/2013 8:16:39 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Common Sense 101

True enough ... and well said.


21 posted on 03/17/2013 8:17:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Because it was their status as football players that led authorities at various levels to want the charges to just go away rather than dealing with them as required by their jobs.


22 posted on 03/17/2013 8:18:22 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Twinkie

The defense stated she had a “crush” on one of the boys and her friends tried to stop her from going off with them. She had already consumed alcohol. The prosecution countered with the fact that she reached the point she could not stand up and the one she had a “crush” on “shared her out” to his friend. He took advantage of her trust in him.

The girl made a chain of stupid choices, that doesn’t warrant what was done to her. Let’s hope this gives kids a “wake-up call.”


23 posted on 03/17/2013 8:18:39 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: oh8eleven
What does being football players have to do with it? Why not two "teens" or two "high school students?"

Because the Steubenville High School football team has a national reputation, and the fear/expectation was that their status as star players would either prevent them from being convicted or might mitigate their sentence. The first was proven wrong; we'll see about the second.

24 posted on 03/17/2013 8:21:41 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Twinkie
The “girl” (about same age as the “boys”) has been declared “innocent” of any and all responsibility for her own actions. The perfect “feminist” of the future.

C'mon, let's get real, being young & making bad choices does not mean you're fair game to be raped.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 8:31:38 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Common Sense 101

Your logic here makes zero sense.

“The scumbag socialist propogandists use stories like this to assert to the ignorant masses that every man is capable of this despicable crime.”

Really? Please clarify how pointing out how these two were “football players” then makes it appear as if every man is capable of this crime? Apparently adding this to the title would imply only FOOTBALL players are capable of this crime.

It was a crime. The football coach and culture did its best to sweep it under the rug. It should have been reported. What is your point exactly?


26 posted on 03/17/2013 8:33:46 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Common Sense 101; oh8eleven
What does being football players have to do with it? Why not two "teens" or two "high school students?"

Because football players, especially in a “Football Town”, are protected and privileged persons; celebrities.

The football stars get their grades padded so they stay illegible to play, when they break the rules punish is light or non-existent, even violent crimes can be overlooked for high school and college athletes (no admittance to the hospital no foul).

I really believe that these young men have been conditioned probably since middle school that they are untouchables that can do no wrong. They believed that they could do whatever they wanted and no one would do anything about it because they always had in the past. I saw it when I went to school and I saw it when my kids went to school.

27 posted on 03/17/2013 8:33:51 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Sadly, a lot of parents don't have much more sense than their offspring these days.

Having said that, since when did teenagers need parental approval to have booze parties. The Baptist preacher's daughter spiked the punch at our HS band Christmas party in 1953!

28 posted on 03/17/2013 8:46:18 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Dacula

both sentenced to at least one year in juvenile jail and could be held until they are 21 years old. an additional year for a charge related to distributing nude images of a minor was also given to one of the guilty.


29 posted on 03/17/2013 8:55:26 AM PDT by deport
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30 posted on 03/17/2013 8:56:11 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Dacula

Am I the only one who thinks their fathers deserve a bit of horsewhip also?

Sorry.
Pardon me.

That’s of course assuming the fathers can even be found...


31 posted on 03/17/2013 9:07:19 AM PDT by djf (I don't want to be safe. I want to be FREE!)
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To: oh8eleven

Because Football is so revered in some small towns, those who excel at the sport are given a pass on lots of their misbehavior.

Sorta like a younger version of ‘the old boys network or club’.


32 posted on 03/17/2013 9:14:45 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: fatnotlazy

“What parent lets his/her child attend a booze party. What parent allows his/her child to have such a party. Don’t these people have curfews for their kids or at least an adult present at the festivities?”

Could child abuse also be involved? This wasn’t the first time this happened. Under age drinking? DUI? Why were not more charges filed? Why the alleged coverup? Not alleged in my humble opinion. This entire case has me really pi$$ed of. Way too many wrongs


33 posted on 03/17/2013 9:39:24 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Lurker
I’m sure Penn State will have recruiters waiting for them outside of the juvenile detention facility.

Nahh, they like girls.

34 posted on 03/17/2013 9:40:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: oh8eleven

“What does being football players have to do with it? “

Football is BAD.


35 posted on 03/17/2013 9:41:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: canuck_conservative

“C’mon, let’s get real, being young & making bad choices does not mean you’re fair game to be raped.”

DID I SAY THAT (NO!!!)? - The boys made a REAL BAD choice; in a climate of machismo. The girl made a BAD choice as well. I’m not going to excuse her; more choices like that and she won’t be likely to survive very long. . . Sandra Fluck notwithstanding.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 9:50:59 AM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Rannug

I’m over the border from Steubenville and our local media has said nothing about this party itself. These are kids, and while they are old enough to know better, there should have been some responsible adult involved to prevent this situation. Looks like adults actually cared about these children only when it appeared the incident would besmirch the football program. Parents, coaches, administrators — whoever — should be punished too.


37 posted on 03/17/2013 9:52:41 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: deport

The Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine was in town and held a press conference after the sentencing. He is calling for a Grand Jury to convene in April. Hoo boy this will get some in Steubenville scrambling. The owners of the three party houses, the adult/adults who supplied the alcohol, adults who tried to cover up or minimize,other teens who are found to be involved and even a previous rape that occurred in April will be looked at. This is just the beginning. Wow


38 posted on 03/17/2013 10:02:08 AM PDT by theycallmemom
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To: Dacula

Good!

This was not some drunken youthful mistake. They were gleeful and joking about their crimes long after the booze wore off. They only showed “remorse” after they realized their a***s would be behind bars.

Such outright displays of evil should be made an example of and this should be a case study in every teen alcohol class.

But seriously, just think about how messed up these kids are today. We had drunken teen parties back in the day. Obviously some girls had too much but we all knew not to mess with them and stop guys who tried. Even when we were 15. This poor girl was DRAGGED TO MULTIPLE PARTIES completely unconscious and not one person stepped in to stop it. Pray for America...


39 posted on 03/17/2013 10:05:03 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: theycallmemom

I’m not familiar with the details of this event. But one article I read said three other boys weren’t charged in exchange for testimony. I’m not sure what those charges would have been had they been charged. Apparently the girl was the girl friend of one of the boys charged.

If a Grand Jury gets involved it could lead to some others being implicated.


40 posted on 03/17/2013 10:14:48 AM PDT by deport
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To: Dacula

I saw that coming as soon as a saw the defense strategy. The defense attorney didn’t have much to work with there.


41 posted on 03/17/2013 10:17:07 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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The defense attorney didn’t have much to work with there.

That tends to happen with guilty clients.

42 posted on 03/17/2013 10:18:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Common Sense 101

I wish there was a like button for this response. You are COMPLETELY correct.


43 posted on 03/17/2013 10:21:18 AM PDT by mpackard (Read my Lip-Stick)
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To: oh8eleven

It more of a news story when it’s football players - especially in a state like Ohio which takes its high school football very seriously.


44 posted on 03/17/2013 10:22:47 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Twinkie

I don’t think that’s the case at all. She was guilty of being stupid and had a punishment that was worse than the ‘crime’ of being stupid and drunk. In the days of my youth, I’ve been around some extremely drunk girls who were passed out or close to it. I, drunk as I was, made the decision not to stick things where they didn’t belong.


45 posted on 03/17/2013 10:27:04 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ya know, I love that idea.


46 posted on 03/17/2013 11:06:06 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Darren McCarty

If you’re an adult and your kid or family member isn’t on the team, taking high school football “very seriously” is weird.


47 posted on 03/17/2013 11:12:19 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sandusky as their new coach! That’s funny (sort of). Jerry is in the Greene Supermax in Greene County, PA, only about 50 miles from Steubenville. Perfect!


48 posted on 03/17/2013 11:18:39 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: theycallmemom

I’m really glad to hear this. Thanks for posting. Obviously, a huge majority of us believe that not enough people got convicted. That kid Patrick Pizzoferrato, who offered people $3/piece to urinate on her, he needs something. I don’t know what it is, but we, as a community, need to do something in the case of this Buttafuoco wannabe. Likewise for the irredeemably idiotic and base kid who joked about the victim being deader than Nicole Brown Simpson, Caylee Anthony, etc.. I’m glad to know it’s coming.


49 posted on 03/17/2013 11:28:01 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Common Sense 101

BS! The reason they’re referred to a football player is because they nearly got away with the rape simply because they are football players in a town that sanctifies football.


50 posted on 03/17/2013 11:29:17 AM PDT by EDINVA
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