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Woman killed, child raped in NY mall carjacking
Associated Press ^ | Mar 15 2013 | GEORGE M. WALSH

Posted on 03/15/2013 2:12:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - An upstate New York man previously charged with having child pornography cut an electronic monitoring device off his ankle before carjacking a woman, fatally stabbing her and raping her 10-year-old daughter, authorities said.

David J. Renz, 29, abducted a school librarian and her daughter as they left a gymnastics class at a mall in the Syracuse suburb of Clay at about 9 p.m. Thursday, state police said Friday.

Troopers said he bound both victims, raped the child and drove a short distance to a spot where the girl managed to escape and was found by a passing motorist.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; child; cuomosdoorstep; newyork; secondamendment; secretasianman; selfdefense; selfdefenseisaright; shadylizard
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To: GOPJ

Democrats protect and work to increase the criminal class so that they can run on the need for a larger and more expensive government.


21 posted on 03/15/2013 2:41:48 PM PDT by monocle
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To: Joe 6-pack
People are inclined to cite studies showing that capital punishment has no deterrent effect

It's a deterrent for the offender!

22 posted on 03/15/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by CharlesI (They're not liberals, they're leftists and elitists!)
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To: CharlesI

Of course it is, but IMHO, the deterrent effect is irrelevant. It is a fitting punishment for the deliberate and intentional taking of an innocent life, and should need no further justification than that.


23 posted on 03/15/2013 2:50:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
That's because you don't think like a left-winger.

And you are absolutely correct.

24 posted on 03/15/2013 2:58:56 PM PDT by CharlesI (They're not liberals, they're leftists and elitists!)
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To: I cannot think of a name
I'l take two tickets, please.

CC

25 posted on 03/15/2013 2:59:18 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Hey liberals, what part of "unalienable" don't you understand?)
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To: showme_the_Glory

It could work in a car, too. One of our back-up pieces is an older 12ga flare gun that we have loaded with a standard 12ga 00 round. I’ve fired it and it’s got one heckuva kick but it also makes a very big hole at short range.


26 posted on 03/15/2013 3:05:02 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: freedumb2003

Well, try and remember that it’s NYC that went after soda. NY State, at this point, is refusing to enact that stupid and pointless ban.

What a tragic, evil story.


27 posted on 03/15/2013 3:12:25 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A the Great Outdoors, one can buy a can of mace for like $10 dollars. How does one man abduct two people?

I am sorry to read this. I hope women start to think of how they can fight back.


28 posted on 03/15/2013 3:14:44 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: k4gypsyrose

“Prayers up for mom and child”.

It is bad enough that this poor child was bound and raped but to watch her Mother get fatally stabbed in front of her. I pray that this innocent child can heal.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 3:16:27 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Berlin_Freeper

These monsters either need to be killed or locked up for life, there is no rehabilitation with them.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 3:18:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Looks like NY’s “Safe” act is really working out well.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 3:20:12 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: envisio
And DEMOCRATS want to take away womens right to carry.

But, to the progressives, this woman is far more virtuous lying dead in a field than she would be had she killed her attacker (permanently stopping him from doing this to someone else.)

32 posted on 03/15/2013 3:21:37 PM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: madprof98

“This is a guy that had THOUSANDS of videos and photos of small girls engaged in sex play. “

Someone will be along shortly to say it’s merely a coincidence.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 3:25:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Truth2012

“A the Great Outdoors, one can buy a can of mace for like $10 dollars. How does one man abduct two people?

I am sorry to read this. I hope women start to think of how they can fight back.”

He sits next to the child, with the knife around the kid’s neck.

But agree with your general point, that was a life-threatening situation (obviously) and she needed a better plan than compliance.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 3:28:13 PM PDT by HEM
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To: envisio

-— One bullet = lady -—

She’s supposed to say that she has an STD.

Your method might work better, though...


35 posted on 03/15/2013 3:28:51 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Standing Wolf
"The best monitoring device is a headstone."

Well said, Berlin_Freeper!

I understand the sentiment, but this piece of excrement does not deserve a memorial head stone. I would not use his remains to feed to pigs. . . The pigs might get food poisoning from this offal.

36 posted on 03/15/2013 3:29:30 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

AMEN! This makes me sick!


37 posted on 03/15/2013 3:31:30 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: I cannot think of a name

“Winner gets to pull the trigger that sends a round through the head of this POS”

Too good for the SOB. A bullet in the brain only snuffs out the light just as painlessly as the guillotine’s blade.

Winner should cheat & aim for the goblin’s groin, so he can think about it for a while as he bleeds out.


38 posted on 03/15/2013 3:31:55 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: momtothree

I went to HS with a girl who was stabbed along with her mother during a home robbery by a stranger. The mother died but the teenager survived. Even with the best of care and a great supportive network, she still has problems because of the incident, and this is now 35 years later. I’m afraid that the girl in this news story will always be scarred, but I pray for her best recovery.


39 posted on 03/15/2013 3:33:28 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

I agree. Something “died” in your friend that day and I think people may forget that. Such trauma... even with help, a supportive family, counseling, you name it.. it doesn’t go away, does it? That is why, IMHO, this man should be executed. He not only killed the Mother but “killed” the daughter that day. I, too, pray for her best recovery.


40 posted on 03/15/2013 3:36:56 PM PDT by momtothree
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