Posted on 03/15/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by jazusamo
The House on Friday rejected a Democratic push to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10, shooting down one of President Obamas priorities from his State of the Union speech.
The 233-184 defeat also exposed divisions within the Democratic Party. Where Mr. Obama called for a hike from the current $7.25 to $9 an hour, congressional Democrats pushed for a $10.10 rate.
But they couldnt muster unity even within their own ranks. Six Democrats from conservative-leaning districts voted against the wage increase, as did every single Republican who was present.
We need jobs out there. The best approach right now is to get federal spending under control and government out of the way of the nations job creators, said Rep. John Kline, Minnesota Republican, who led the opposition.
Mr. Obamas call for a hike to $9 an hour reportedly caught labor advocates off guard. They had been working towards the $10.10 figure.
The White House has not weighed in on the $10.10 raise.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Should be lowering it.
As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.
Why not $20? $100?
The Rats would just love that and the union thug leaders.
Just a joke of course. It went up to $7.25 in 2007 (I think?) What exactly has happened to unemployment since then?
Here in liberal Washington state the minimum wage just went to $9.19 and it’s tough for teens and college kids to find jobs, even part time.
Darn it. I was going to use that to support the family of four I wanted.
” - - - and 14 Republicans defecting to vote against it. - - - “
Who are the 14 RINOs?
Since the democrats cannot understand the very simplest things than how on earth could they ever be trusted to solve anything complex?
Democrats ruin absolutely everything they touch and their greed is at the heart of everything they do and say.
Likely repubs from left-leaning districts who are afraid of losing their seats though I can’t say for sure.
Mandatory $7.25 here in, ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’ Most entry level people aren’t even worth THAT around here.
The Democrat’s proposal to raise the minimum wage was nothing more than a political ploy. They knew damn well that the Republicans, being more fiscally responsible, would have to defeat it. Now Obama the outsider has another issue with which to attack Republicans.
Yep, I’m sure it’s as bad here, there’s definitely a lack of work ethic compared to years ago.
Agreed...Obama knew damn well it wouldn’t get through the House.
For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively (emphases added) with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes. Thomas Jefferson, Jeffersons Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791."State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Base on a discussion in a related thread, possibly the reason that businessmen comply with constitutionally indefensible federal minimal wage laws is because they don't understand Congress's Section 8-limited powers imo.
Let the market set the wages. Enough said!
The minimum wage law is a full employment act for illegals who get paid under the table.
My first part-time job paid $.76 an hour which I got because I could crank out collection letters on a manual typewriter mistake free at 85 wpm. No breaks when you worked all day Saturday except 20 minutes for lunch, no food or beverages at your desk, no talking on the phone or with your co-workers unless it was work related. And there was no acceptable reason for being late or absent. Was 1957, small town USA, part-time jobs were pretty scarce and I was so glad to have that one.
Not many 17 year olds would accept such a job now, regardless of the pay.
“As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.”
Why do you think that elimination of the minimum wage is a poor idea? Why should any government entity have any say in what businesses pay their employees. For a lot of “poor” folks, a job at five bucks trumps waiting for someone who is willing to pay you $10. Thus far, government hasn’t passed legislation requiring that a private employer hire people even if they can’t afford them or don’t need them! But that may be next!
Ah, my meaning was that lowering the minwage was the poor alternative. The overwhelming preference is of elimination.
Sorry, for the poor semantics.
The minimum wage law is for the Unions as many union contracts are tied to the level of the minimum wage.
Well, this is a good thing.
Good. I want the minimum wage at least 100 dollars an hour and nothing less. lol.
Precisely!
The rats and their union scum and couldn't care less about burger-flipping teenagers - - it's all about the union scales.
0bamacare + Min. Wage Increase = Eradication of Private Sector. With only 0bamacare, it’s barely limping along. 0bama will do all he can to set the stage for 100% government jobs. This is just what Dictators do.
thank you...
One of my first jobs was picking grapes in a huge vineyard in South Jersey For $1.20 an hour. That was minimum wage at the time. This was around 1971 I think. Lots of work in the sun and lots of bees!
OOOPPPS! Make that a $1.60 an hour.
It was just a back door way of raising tax revenue.
Exactly. I bet most PT entry-level jobs where unions are involved pay in the $8-9/hr range. Bumping the minimum wage to $10.10/hr would kill many small businesses and give the Unions powere to force a $11/hr starting wage on the employers.
Of course the dems wouldn’t admit there are consequences related to any of their policies.
Minimum wage is a killer for marginal or unskilled employees.
You need to go back and reread second to last and last paragraphs. Every Repub present voted against the min wage increase.
I know families which would be better off if someone earned just a buck an hour on a forty hour week. Government has devastated work.
A political ploy that’s going to backfire on him. He has run out of political capital. :)
“Why not $20? $100?”
That’s how they destroyed The Detroit auto industry.
Spot on....
Actually your sentence structure was perfect, but I think some people have a problem understanding comma’s.
Dont b hating on poor people. 42 % of us need dat money.
Our occasional baby sitter applied for a summer job at a public pool concession stand. Five hundred people applied for the job. It’s terrible. I feel so sorry for today’s kids.
When I was young I could bounce from job to job whenever I wanted to. The employers didn’t care because they could replace me the next day.
That’s the problem we have.
You can’t convince the most basic Democrat that when a business such as a grocery store is charging a 15% to 20% markup— that increasing their labor prices will ultimately result in price increases for the consumer. Democrat morons wont’ believe it.
They think there are millions— MILLIONS of dollars in profits that is being horded away from people just trying to support a family off of minimum wage. It doesn’t matter what industry it is, that is what they believe.
The 233-184 defeat also exposed divisions within the Democratic Party... [Zero] called for a hike from the current $7.25 to $9 an hour, congressional Democrats pushed for a $10.10 rate.#1, there should not be a one-size-fits-all, IOW, a minimum wage law should be left up to the states; #2, Demwits delenda est.
I think we should raise the minimum wage to $25.00 an Hr.. LOL
They do understand, though, that the Federal Government will use every power it is, legal or illegal, to destroy them if they don’t comply with whatever it says.
Thanks. I stand corrected: there were TWO bills, and I missed that point in the article. Thanks.
Ouch. These automatic increases would have put minimum wage on an unsustainable course, much like baseline budgeting has done to federal spending. I'm sure the goal is to equalize wages (because why *should* a neurosurgeon earn more than a hamburger flipper?), but the only way the economy can survive such automatic increases is through massive inflation. And if government tries to halt the money presses to control inflation... well, that won't work either. Doesn't Zimbabwe still have tons of money?
-——I’m sure the goal is to equalize wages -——
I would argue that the rising tide raises all boats. The increases are to mandate the inflation necessary to devalue the debt.
They have a problem with the inflation they need. Wages are inelastic because of the vast number of unemployed. Prices rise but wages don’t. Raising the minimum is the method to raise all wages and salaries and thus the marginal increase in taxes.
Eeek, bees! My 1st part time job was 1982, I was 12. Here in the Long Island burbs, it used to be the teens on the block babysat for us younger ones.
Once everyone “grew up”, it was our turn to babysit the younger ones. 2 bucks an hour. Did that until I was 15 and could get my working papers.
Then I worked at our local super market, on the books. Can’t remember what my wages were.
Every time I get my “social security” report I laugh. They tell me how much I will be getting when I retire.
I know I will never see a dime of the money they stole from me.
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