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House defeats minimum wage increase
The Washington Times ^ | March 15, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/15/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by jazusamo

The House on Friday rejected a Democratic push to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10, shooting down one of President Obama’s priorities from his State of the Union speech.

The 233-184 defeat also exposed divisions within the Democratic Party. Where Mr. Obama called for a hike from the current $7.25 to $9 an hour, congressional Democrats pushed for a $10.10 rate.

But they couldn’t muster unity even within their own ranks. Six Democrats from conservative-leaning districts voted against the wage increase, as did every single Republican who was present.

“We need jobs out there. The best approach right now is to get federal spending under control and government out of the way of the nation’s job creators,” said Rep. John Kline, Minnesota Republican, who led the opposition.

Mr. Obama’s call for a hike to $9 an hour reportedly caught labor advocates off guard. They had been working towards the $10.10 figure.

The White House has not weighed in on the $10.10 raise.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: minimumwage
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1 posted on 03/15/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Should be lowering it.

As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 11:41:15 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jazusamo

Why not $20? $100?


3 posted on 03/15/2013 11:46:54 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Sybeck1

The Rats would just love that and the union thug leaders.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 11:50:28 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Just a joke of course. It went up to $7.25 in 2007 (I think?) What exactly has happened to unemployment since then?


5 posted on 03/15/2013 11:54:43 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Sybeck1

Here in liberal Washington state the minimum wage just went to $9.19 and it’s tough for teens and college kids to find jobs, even part time.


6 posted on 03/15/2013 12:09:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Sybeck1

Darn it. I was going to use that to support the family of four I wanted.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 12:10:18 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jazusamo; All

” - - - and 14 Republicans defecting to vote against it. - - - “

Who are the 14 RINOs?


8 posted on 03/15/2013 12:36:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jazusamo
If they hike the minimum wage I hope they're prepared to pay $5 for a taco.

Since the democrats cannot understand the very simplest things than how on earth could they ever be trusted to solve anything complex?

Democrats ruin absolutely everything they touch and their greed is at the heart of everything they do and say.

9 posted on 03/15/2013 12:44:49 PM PDT by Bullish (A genuine President wouldn't allow the Obama's on the White House grounds)
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To: Graewoulf

Likely repubs from left-leaning districts who are afraid of losing their seats though I can’t say for sure.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 12:45:58 PM PDT by what's up
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To: jazusamo

Mandatory $7.25 here in, ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’ Most entry level people aren’t even worth THAT around here.


11 posted on 03/15/2013 12:47:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: jazusamo

The Democrat’s proposal to raise the minimum wage was nothing more than a political ploy. They knew damn well that the Republicans, being more fiscally responsible, would have to defeat it. Now Obama the outsider has another issue with which to attack Republicans.


12 posted on 03/15/2013 12:50:59 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yep, I’m sure it’s as bad here, there’s definitely a lack of work ethic compared to years ago.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: upsdriver

Agreed...Obama knew damn well it wouldn’t get through the House.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 1:05:09 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo; All
The states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific power to regulate minimum wage. And regardless what FDR's activist justices said about Congress's Commerce Clause powers in Wickard v. Filburn, these outcome-driven justices wrongly ignored not only Thomas Jefferson's official clarification of the limits of Congress's Commerce Clause powers, but also Justice John Marshall's official clarification of these limited powers.
“For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively (emphases added) with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.” –Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Base on a discussion in a related thread, possibly the reason that businessmen comply with constitutionally indefensible federal minimal wage laws is because they don't understand Congress's Section 8-limited powers imo.

15 posted on 03/15/2013 1:12:22 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: jazusamo

Let the market set the wages. Enough said!


16 posted on 03/15/2013 1:13:55 PM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: jazusamo

The minimum wage law is a full employment act for illegals who get paid under the table.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 1:49:45 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: jazusamo

My first part-time job paid $.76 an hour which I got because I could crank out collection letters on a manual typewriter mistake free at 85 wpm. No breaks when you worked all day Saturday except 20 minutes for lunch, no food or beverages at your desk, no talking on the phone or with your co-workers unless it was work related. And there was no acceptable reason for being late or absent. Was 1957, small town USA, part-time jobs were pretty scarce and I was so glad to have that one.

Not many 17 year olds would accept such a job now, regardless of the pay.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 2:35:48 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: C210N

“As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.”

Why do you think that elimination of the minimum wage is a poor idea? Why should any government entity have any say in what businesses pay their employees. For a lot of “poor” folks, a job at five bucks trumps waiting for someone who is willing to pay you $10. Thus far, government hasn’t passed legislation requiring that a private employer hire people even if they can’t afford them or don’t need them! But that may be next!


19 posted on 03/15/2013 2:55:40 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Ah, my meaning was that lowering the minwage was the poor alternative. The overwhelming preference is of elimination.

Sorry, for the poor semantics.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 3:26:31 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Western Phil

The minimum wage law is for the Unions as many union contracts are tied to the level of the minimum wage.


21 posted on 03/15/2013 3:29:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jazusamo

Well, this is a good thing.


22 posted on 03/15/2013 3:59:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo

Good. I want the minimum wage at least 100 dollars an hour and nothing less. lol.


23 posted on 03/15/2013 4:02:01 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: dfwgator
The minimum wage law is for the Unions as many union contracts are tied to the level of the minimum wage.

Precisely!
The rats and their union scum and couldn't care less about burger-flipping teenagers - - it's all about the union scales.

24 posted on 03/15/2013 4:08:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo

0bamacare + Min. Wage Increase = Eradication of Private Sector. With only 0bamacare, it’s barely limping along. 0bama will do all he can to set the stage for 100% government jobs. This is just what Dictators do.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 4:17:04 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Lancey Howard
Absolutely, Lancey. Screw the unions and the Rats. The feds have no business dictating a minimum wage, that's up to the states and it should really be up to employers to pay a person what they're worth.
26 posted on 03/15/2013 4:18:43 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: dfwgator
thank you...
27 posted on 03/15/2013 4:24:56 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Grams A

One of my first jobs was picking grapes in a huge vineyard in South Jersey For $1.20 an hour. That was minimum wage at the time. This was around 1971 I think. Lots of work in the sun and lots of bees!


28 posted on 03/15/2013 4:26:00 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Hurry up Spring!!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

OOOPPPS! Make that a $1.60 an hour.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 4:29:22 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Hurry up Spring!!!!)
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To: jazusamo

It was just a back door way of raising tax revenue.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 5:05:56 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: dfwgator

Exactly. I bet most PT entry-level jobs where unions are involved pay in the $8-9/hr range. Bumping the minimum wage to $10.10/hr would kill many small businesses and give the Unions powere to force a $11/hr starting wage on the employers.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 5:10:18 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Sybeck1

Of course the dems wouldn’t admit there are consequences related to any of their policies.


32 posted on 03/15/2013 5:15:24 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: jazusamo

Minimum wage is a killer for marginal or unskilled employees.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 5:55:24 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Graewoulf

You need to go back and reread second to last and last paragraphs. Every Repub present voted against the min wage increase.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 6:13:58 PM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: vette6387

I know families which would be better off if someone earned just a buck an hour on a forty hour week. Government has devastated work.


35 posted on 03/15/2013 6:15:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: upsdriver

A political ploy that’s going to backfire on him. He has run out of political capital. :)


36 posted on 03/15/2013 6:49:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Sybeck1

“Why not $20? $100?”

That’s how they destroyed The Detroit auto industry.


37 posted on 03/15/2013 6:49:09 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: jazusamo
Poor Little Dick Trumka probably kicked his dog. The unions backdoor plan for a pay increase just went ‘pop’.
38 posted on 03/15/2013 7:07:27 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: C210N

Spot on....


39 posted on 03/15/2013 7:29:59 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: C210N

Actually your sentence structure was perfect, but I think some people have a problem understanding comma’s.


40 posted on 03/15/2013 7:38:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: C210N

Dont b hating on poor people. 42 % of us need dat money.


41 posted on 03/15/2013 8:32:09 PM PDT by RobC123
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To: jazusamo

Our occasional baby sitter applied for a summer job at a public pool concession stand. Five hundred people applied for the job. It’s terrible. I feel so sorry for today’s kids.

When I was young I could bounce from job to job whenever I wanted to. The employers didn’t care because they could replace me the next day.


42 posted on 03/15/2013 9:32:39 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Bullish

That’s the problem we have.

You can’t convince the most basic Democrat that when a business such as a grocery store is charging a 15% to 20% markup— that increasing their labor prices will ultimately result in price increases for the consumer. Democrat morons wont’ believe it.

They think there are millions— MILLIONS of dollars in profits that is being horded away from people just trying to support a family off of minimum wage. It doesn’t matter what industry it is, that is what they believe.


43 posted on 03/15/2013 9:43:42 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
The 233-184 defeat also exposed divisions within the Democratic Party... [Zero] called for a hike from the current $7.25 to $9 an hour, congressional Democrats pushed for a $10.10 rate.
#1, there should not be a one-size-fits-all, IOW, a minimum wage law should be left up to the states; #2, Demwits delenda est.


44 posted on 03/15/2013 10:21:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: jazusamo

I think we should raise the minimum wage to $25.00 an Hr.. LOL


45 posted on 03/15/2013 10:47:53 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Amendment10

They do understand, though, that the Federal Government will use every power it is, legal or illegal, to destroy them if they don’t comply with whatever it says.


46 posted on 03/15/2013 11:29:15 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: upchuck

Thanks. I stand corrected: there were TWO bills, and I missed that point in the article. Thanks.


47 posted on 03/16/2013 4:16:23 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jazusamo
Their measure would have raised the wage incrementally over three years, and then set it on a path to automatically increase thereafter.

Ouch. These automatic increases would have put minimum wage on an unsustainable course, much like baseline budgeting has done to federal spending. I'm sure the goal is to equalize wages (because why *should* a neurosurgeon earn more than a hamburger flipper?), but the only way the economy can survive such automatic increases is through massive inflation. And if government tries to halt the money presses to control inflation... well, that won't work either. Doesn't Zimbabwe still have tons of money?

48 posted on 03/16/2013 4:49:57 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

-——I’m sure the goal is to equalize wages -——

I would argue that the rising tide raises all boats. The increases are to mandate the inflation necessary to devalue the debt.

They have a problem with the inflation they need. Wages are inelastic because of the vast number of unemployed. Prices rise but wages don’t. Raising the minimum is the method to raise all wages and salaries and thus the marginal increase in taxes.


49 posted on 03/16/2013 4:58:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: 4yearlurker

Eeek, bees! My 1st part time job was 1982, I was 12. Here in the Long Island burbs, it used to be the teens on the block babysat for us younger ones.

Once everyone “grew up”, it was our turn to babysit the younger ones. 2 bucks an hour. Did that until I was 15 and could get my working papers.

Then I worked at our local super market, on the books. Can’t remember what my wages were.

Every time I get my “social security” report I laugh. They tell me how much I will be getting when I retire.

I know I will never see a dime of the money they stole from me.


50 posted on 03/16/2013 6:39:58 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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