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Schumer’s Transfer Tyranny “Protecting Responsible Gun Sellers Act of 2013”
National Review ^ | Mar. 14, 2013 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 03/15/2013 7:21:16 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

S. 374 represents a direct blow to Americans’ right to keep and bear arms without excessive government interference. The bill holds that any “transfer” of a firearm must be conducted via a middleman (in practice, a law-enforcement officer or the holder of a Federal Firearms License) and that a transferee is obliged to submit to a check under the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System. There are good-faith arguments in favor of and against this provision. But Chuck Schumer has narrowed the definition of “transfer” so strictly as to make his proposition absurd. If, for example, a gun owner leaves his home for more than seven days — leaving his firearms with his roommate, or gay partner, or landlord — he’ll be committing a felony that carries a five-year prison term. And while married couples are exempted from falling afoul of that provision, the family exemptions apply only to recorded “gifts” and not to “temporary transfers.” In order to avoid making felons of millions of couples, the government would, at the very least, need to spell out clearly what constitutes “gifting” a gun within a family and what constitutes a “temporary transfer,” thus regulating an area that has hitherto largely been left alone.

What else would change? Well, it would be illegal to lend a gun to a friend so that he can go shooting. Want to give your pistol to your neighbor so he can pop down to the range for a few hours but don’t have time to go with him? Sorry, better make sure you look good in orange. Need more than the allowed 24 hours to report a stolen gun to the authorities? What is this — Somalia? You’re a felon: Sharing guns between buddies on a hunting trip? Five years inside for you.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; communists; coup; guncontrol; progressiveagenda; s374; schumer; secondamendment
But the real genius of Schumer’s bill is the permanence of its effects: Once you’ve proven yourself the sort of monster who might teach your neighbors’ children to shoot targets in the garden, you’re a felon, and you can’t own firearms without the explicit permission of the state.
1 posted on 03/15/2013 7:21:16 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE
The US government has become the biggest threat to freedom for the nation, period. All other dwarf in comparison to what is going on these past 15 years. This threat is insidious, all past threats from the Brits to the commies were in the open. This bunch has constructed stage scenery to camouflage their intent so that the uninformed have not a clue what is going on right before their eyes.
2 posted on 03/15/2013 7:27:59 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: EXCH54FE

It’s no surprise Schumer would come up with this. Everything that Nappy headed idiot does is absurd.

Only the totally brain dead cannot see that our government and crapheads like Schumer are determined to turn us all into slaves of the Government.

This is tyranny in our lifetime.

They seem to be begging for a Civil War.The only thing stopping it now is the borrowed money Oama keeps passing out. When the economy goes down the tubes—and it will— it’s Katie bar the door. They know it that is why they are trying to disarm us while arming the Government.


3 posted on 03/15/2013 7:29:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: EXCH54FE
Americans’ right to keep and bear arms without excessive government interference.

What about books.. as was brought up the other day during a senate hearing.

How are laws affecting the right to keep and bear arms any different than laws affecting books vis-a-vis the respective Amendments?

What happens when..

Not a book ban, says Senator. No threat to the First Amendment. Books are not outlawed. People will not be required to turn in all their books. There will not be total book confiscation.

Senator Feinstein's insult-bindings ban makes illegal books that have bindings that disturb public tranquility by insulting or threatening segments of society or society in general. Though the contents of the book may be like thousands of others the appearance of the book makes the book illegal.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 7:32:39 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: EXCH54FE
...There are good-faith arguments in favor of and against this provision....

NO, there aren't. Schumer's proposed legislation is just a placeholder in that long trek to full registration and confiscation.

His 'sensible' proposals are supposedly merely to make us safe, at least on the surface. The real purpose is to eventually disarm the American citizen who isn't one of his DHS goons, or Holder's people, or some illegal Mexican or common ghetto thug.

I am not going to 'background check' anything, I'm not going to 'register' anything, and I damned sure won't be turning anything. Whatever I have or had or will have was sold to some punk at a gun show, coincidentally before his legislation would kick in, and no, I didn't do a background check, etc. why would I care about that? It was one of 'his' people....

5 posted on 03/15/2013 7:33:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EXCH54FE

6 posted on 03/15/2013 7:40:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Enemy action ping.

Let's see if FR has its sear fixed yet, or if we get the unwanted 'three-round burst'.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 03/15/2013 7:46:28 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: All
Well, well... it looks like group pings may be finally workable again after all these lost months. Good news.
8 posted on 03/15/2013 7:47:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

This is the scariest thing I have read in a long time.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 7:54:40 AM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: Mouton
The US government has become the biggest threat to freedom for the nation, period

I've been saying that for years (look at tagline)

10 posted on 03/15/2013 7:54:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Venturer
Only the totally brain dead cannot see that our government and crapheads like Schumer are determined to turn us all into slaves of the Government

Which would encompass about 51% of the people who voted in the last presidential election.

11 posted on 03/15/2013 7:56:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Joe Brower

That dirtbag is an enemy of the state.


12 posted on 03/15/2013 7:57:55 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: EXCH54FE

The electorate of NY vote for those who publicly state their anti-gun positions. When they follow they get all cranky. I think the voters of NY are pretty stupid! You can’t have socialism/communism and your freedoms too. You’re going to have to chose one or the other. I suspect this hasn’t yet (and maybe never will) dawned on them...


13 posted on 03/15/2013 8:00:11 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: from occupied ga

You are correct.

Only the brain dead could have voted for Obama.

When a racial vote of 95% vote for someone only because that person is half black that is a brain dead decision.

When a political party votes for someone only because he belong to that party, That is a brain dead decision.

When a group of Homosexuals vote for someone only-—well we all know Homosexuals are brain dead.

Next for the women. As long as they can kill their unborn and get free birth control-— which half of them are too stupid to use.-— They vote for Obama . That is a brain dead decision.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 8:00:49 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: EXCH54FE

15 posted on 03/15/2013 8:02:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Venturer

We are so screwed.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 8:03:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 556x45
I think the voters of NY are pretty stupid!

FULLY AGREE!! Yet they think they're the elite and look down their noses at those of us in "fly-over country."

You’re going to have to chose one or the other.

New Yorkers long ago decided that they wanted nothing to do with freedom. Massholes too.

17 posted on 03/15/2013 8:07:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Venturer

Schumer is not an idiot. He is pure EVIL.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 8:08:41 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Joe Brower; CodeToad; Myrddin
Joe, do you know how to get this to appear on smartphones and ipads?

We couldn't figure it out, so we're missing a lot of views.


19 posted on 03/15/2013 8:09:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: going hot

“That dirtbag is an enemy of the state.”

No! Schumer is an enabler of the state and an enemy of freedom-minded people everywhere.

It is we who cherish liberty & individual freedoms who are enemies of the state! And the state has declared war on us.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 8:12:07 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: EXCH54FE
HEADLINE: Schumer’s Transfer Tyranny “Protecting Screwing Responsible Gun Sellers Act of 2013”

There. I fixed it.

21 posted on 03/15/2013 8:21:07 AM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from the lust for power-Judge Napolitano)
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To: elcid1970
No! Schumer is an enabler of the state and an enemy of freedom-minded people everywhere.

You got that right!! Schumer, Feinstein, McCarthy, their accomplices, and the smug complacent fools who voted for them are enemies of freedom. These are the real enemy, not the Taliban the Chinese, etc. They are one hell of a lot more dangerous enemies than any ragged towel type with an AK-74 in Afganistan.

22 posted on 03/15/2013 8:38:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Exactly. We are Screwed good and proper.

They are introducing so many gun bills that if only 10% of them passed we are fugged.

That is the plan.

Dazzle them with BS.


23 posted on 03/15/2013 8:39:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Travis McGee; CodeToad; Myrddin
Trav, I tried it on a Samsung Galaxy III running Android 4.1 ('Jellybean'), using FireFox as my web browser to access your comment on FR. FireFox is also what I usually run on my Win7 PCs.

The link stays in the browser and jumps to m.youtube.com, but then presents a message I've seen before: "The content owner has not made this video available on mobile. Add to playlist to watch it later on a PC." I don't fiddle with youtube much, so how you "make it available" is unknown to me.

Interestingly, if I use the dedicated YouTube app on Android (vs. the web browser), a search on "Democide" and variants, including the full literal string "DEMOCIDE: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns And Freedom", yeilds nothing at all -- you video isn't even listed. Don't know if that's because of the same restriction, censorship on YouTube's part, or what.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

24 posted on 03/15/2013 8:51:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Venturer
They seem to be begging for a Civil War.

What they likely will get, however, is a severe case of lead poisoning.

25 posted on 03/15/2013 9:06:05 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: Joe Brower

Schumer really does have an unlikeable personae. Wondering how he ever got elected it seems to me that the electorate in his area are just fanatical leftists.


26 posted on 03/15/2013 9:08:13 AM PDT by yarddog (Per Ardua Ad Alta.)
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To: Joe Brower

Please place me on your “ping” list/ Thank you!


27 posted on 03/15/2013 9:39:23 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: yarddog
Wondering how he ever got elected it seems to me that the electorate in his area are just fanatical leftists.

Since Schemer is a senator from the state of NY, that would imply that the majority of New Yorkers are fanatical leftists. Which near as I can tell they are. If we could somehow give NY, MA, RI, CT, and ME to Canada, the USA would be a lot better off and the Canadians would get what they deserve for being socialistic too.

28 posted on 03/15/2013 9:53:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: going hot
That dirtbag is an enemy of the state.

Nah, he's the state's best buddy. His enemies are his moral and Constitutional superiors, those who pay (for whatever reason) his salary, the people.

29 posted on 03/15/2013 9:57:10 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PotatoChop
"Please place me on your “ping” list"

You've been added to my private RKBA ping-list.

30 posted on 03/15/2013 10:51:44 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Gaffer

I could just see this scenario. If you don’t register your weps and say a thug breaks in to your home an you cap him. You will go to jail because you have an illegal, unregistered weapon. Stand your ground will be useless unless you register. I think this is where this is going because they know that no one will comply with any registration.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 11:34:01 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Lemme ask you. Your scenario goes down. You cap the perp.

Exactly why do you need to call po po?

I got a pick up big tarp, a meat hook to drag a carcass, and
plenty of lonely dark mountain roads around here.


32 posted on 03/15/2013 12:30:54 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Unless you have a suppressed weapon the noise will surely give away what you did. Not all of us reside in the sticks. You would have an easier time as the herd will be thinned out by the time they get out to ya.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 12:57:39 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: from occupied ga
We are so screwed.

Remember the words of the great "Chesty" Puller...

“All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time.”

“Great. Now we can shoot at those bastards from every direction.”

“We’re surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them”

34 posted on 03/15/2013 1:58:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: USAF80

SSS


35 posted on 03/15/2013 2:51:45 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: EXCH54FE

The Colorado legislature just put a bill on the Governor’s desk that outlaws “transfers” without a background check...


36 posted on 03/15/2013 5:42:45 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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