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Councilman urges residents to channel anger on 4th night of Brooklyn unrest (Shorten)
PIX 11 ^ | 3/15/13 | by Jay Dow

Posted on 03/15/2013 5:53:48 AM PDT by Kartographer

For the fourth consecutive night residents, police officers, and news crews converged on East Flatbush Brooklyn Thursday to take part, respond to, and report the outrage over the fatal police shooting of 16-year old Kimani Gray. Carol Gray told Pix11, “He’s not the public’s angel. But he’s my baby. And he was slaughtered. And I want to know why. Even after the first shot, second bullet, why third bullet, why fourth bullet, why?”

Gray’s mother seemed to acknowledge the negative characterizations of her son now swirling in the media.

Statements made by the NYPD that Gray was armed, his gun recovered at the scene and other media reports that the teen was an alleged gang member.

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1 posted on 03/15/2013 5:53:48 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

“Gray’s mother seemed to acknowledge the negative characterizations of her son now swirling in the media.”

Traslation: All the reports of my so being a gangbanging thug with a long criminal record, even at the tender age of 16 ARE ALL ACURATE.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 6:00:28 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN

so = son


3 posted on 03/15/2013 6:00:51 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Kartographer
Don't worry, everything is under control!

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4 posted on 03/15/2013 6:01:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: V_TWIN

What would it take for whites to riot? And what would they destroy? Probably not their own neighborhoods and businesses.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 6:02:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: V_TWIN
"After the first shot, second bullet, why third bullet, why fourth bullet, why?”

Why not? The whole point of the exercise is to make sure the little creep can't do any more damage.

If I thought this was a bad shoot I'd be all over the cops. I don't think this is one of those cases.

6 posted on 03/15/2013 6:05:41 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kartographer
You sowed the seeds for an ignorant, idle, dependent class, Councilman.

Now reap the whirlwind.

7 posted on 03/15/2013 6:06:40 AM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The way things are going it may not be long before we find out.


8 posted on 03/15/2013 6:06:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: V_TWIN

look, she still loves him and if there had been more opportunity for him to have a real job, maybe he wouldn’t have gone down the path he did. There is no opportunity in the city. The jobs for teens are now taken by adults whose job lives have been devastated by our huge unmanageable no debt problem. There is a lot of pressure on these guys to produce money from somewhere, caused by our culture’s sick emphasis on money and the wrong idea that everybody is a star. Obama contributes to it by acting like a nouveau riche conspicuous consumer. He probably has a little baby somewhere too and so the state is after him for child support. Selling drugs is a career choice, pretty much the only one in the urban areas. It is bad out there. I do not approve of the police shooting these kids, they should reach out to them and tell them there is hope not gun them down.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 6:08:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If whites “riot”, they/we are going after the politicians.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 6:08:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I am curious what the “white” tipping point is.


11 posted on 03/15/2013 6:08:42 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: yldstrk; SWAMPSNIPER; ilovesarah2012

Has the dad weighed in yet?


12 posted on 03/15/2013 6:11:32 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Any day now.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 6:11:42 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: V_TWIN

Dad is on lockdown this month.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 6:12:40 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: yldstrk

No one is forced to stay there.


15 posted on 03/15/2013 6:14:23 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: yldstrk

Hey, kids!

Here’s a way to not get shot and stay out of poverty!

Sound good?

OK, here goes... it’s actually really simple.

Don’t do anything your “urban” culture encourages,
and do everything it discourages.

There ya go.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 6:15:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: V_TWIN

Good question but I have a feeling you know the answer already.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 6:15:58 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: V_TWIN

Yes, you are of course correct, the kid likely had either a deadbeat dad or a worthless dad. This is a cause for compassion, not hatred. The kid had many strikes against him, lived in the ghetto, had no part-time job, no dad, no one who loved him. What would you have done? How would you have turned out? Instead of being cynical and hopeless, start wrestling with how do we turn this devastation around? How do we teach men to think about something other than their own gratification and start to behave in the way a father really should, protecting and providing? This kid would likely have had a better chance if he had a father to protect and provide instead of being flung out to seek his fortune on the mean drug infested streets of some cold city.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 6:17:15 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MrB

well, that is about right, are you going to help or are you going to be part of the problem?


19 posted on 03/15/2013 6:18:10 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

You don’t teach men to do anything, really.

You teach the women to not have sex with deadbeats.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 6:18:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Well, of course. But many fathers are falling down on the job. They are not protecting and providing for their children and are out womanizing and drinking and drugging and acting like idiots.


21 posted on 03/15/2013 6:20:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ilovesarah2012
What would it take for whites to riot? And what would they destroy? Probably not their own neighborhoods and businesses.

The rioters are NOT the owners of the property they are destroying. They don't care if stores get wrecked, as long as they get loot. And if a welfare residence gets burned out, the city will supply them with a new, fresh residence elsewhere, and new stuff.

22 posted on 03/15/2013 6:20:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: MrB
"You teach the women to not have sex with deadbeats."

Which means that in certain areas, they would not be able to have ANY sex.

23 posted on 03/15/2013 6:23:09 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: yldstrk

One thing that Dr Laura said that was so true, and so infuriating to feminists was, in response to “what if the guy turns out to be a deadbeat”,

“pick better”.

She went on to explain that barring a severe head injury,
someone’s character doesn’t significantly change from the dating period to post-marriage.

(Also barring a “born again” situation, I would add, but that would be a positive change. I would be an example of that.)

Women would “pick better” if the consequences for choosing poorly were not alleviated at the expense of other people, at government gunpoint.


24 posted on 03/15/2013 6:24:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mich Patriot

Humans are not animals that go into heat and HAVE to have sex.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 6:24:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: yldstrk
Well, of course. But many fathers are falling down on the job. They are not protecting and providing for their children and are out womanizing and drinking and drugging and acting like idiots.

Why? Because they can, and they see no upside in marrying and supporting some ghetto harpy and her brood.

Why do the women have babies with them? Because that's the way to get money without having to work.

What's the solution? Stop enabling bad behavior. End the welfare state.

26 posted on 03/15/2013 6:25:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: yldstrk

We should take money from people who are working and give it to these poor city kids. That’s the solution.


27 posted on 03/15/2013 6:26:25 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

I think some “black leader” has already forwarded that “solution”.


28 posted on 03/15/2013 6:27:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: yldstrk

“the kid likely had either a deadbeat dad or a worthless dad.”

Thats my point, without TWO caring parents (or atleast one) this kid didnt have much of a chance. THE PARENT(S) failed this kid which in my opinion is why he is dead, not because the cops “slaughtered” him as the mother says. As far as hating, the only thing I hate is hearing the same story over and over with the people that are the root cause of the whole thing blaming the cops EVERY time. As for myself, I stayed in school, only a high school grad but I had two loving parents to keep me straight and that IMHO is the difference. Make no mistake, this problem begins in the home.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 6:27:40 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: blueunicorn6

I don’t think giving them the money would help, but if they had a part time job and could develop some self respect, that would help. But the Democrats have seen to it that the urban areas are devastated and there are no jobs for teenagers.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 6:29:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PapaBear3625

I would rather they loot and pillage and destroy their own neighborhoods if it kept them from “channeling their anger” at whites who didn’t have anything to do with this kid being a thug.

As for others here who commiserate over punks like this only being a product of their environment that the collective “whitey we” have created is patent BS. The collective “we” have spent Trillions and Trillions of dollars, seized by our government from us, to create these idyllic paradises. What else do these ‘citizens’ want?

They, their masters (Jesse, Kwase, et al) took the money and doled out a pittance. Obama, subsidizes them perpetually with Section 8, WICS, TANF, SNAP, EITC, Pell Grants and on and on and on and on. And, these poor downtrodden innocents are “just a product of an environment” for which the collective “white we” are responsible. BS


31 posted on 03/15/2013 6:31:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PapaBear3625

I wouldn’t blame just the moms, the dads think it is manly to ride the baby around in the backs of their cars, like it proves they are a real “mayan” and their mothers, the baby’s grammaws fight the mothers for the babies. It is a steaming mess.


32 posted on 03/15/2013 6:31:39 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MamaTexan

That’s right - he sowed the seeds. “This anger needs to continue; we just need a way to channel it.” ?? A bit too late to figure out what to do with it now, buddy. Sounds like he’s still conflicted about whether he wants them to stay angry or just to go away.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 6:31:49 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Spray them with sugary drinks to keep them in line!!!


34 posted on 03/15/2013 6:31:59 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Oh really? And what are the pathways out other than death?


35 posted on 03/15/2013 6:32:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Seriously and ideally, if the women only had sex after marriage to a well vetted, established, and upright man,

there would be a lot more established and upright men to choose from to marry.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 6:33:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Agreed. I should have added that it would be a win-win situation if they abstained.


37 posted on 03/15/2013 6:34:13 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: V_TWIN

weren’t you the lucky one? But personalizing the argument is not really helpful


38 posted on 03/15/2013 6:34:43 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kartographer

In the history of mankind, has there ever existed a race or group of people that worked to perpetuate their victimhood the way blacks in the United States do?


39 posted on 03/15/2013 6:36:15 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: yldstrk

So, it is society’s fault he turned to drugs and gang-banging? I’m not buying it.

I would like to see his school records, his class attendance records, to hear from his teachers. Was he an avid student, studying so he could get and hold a job, determined to change his life for the better? If he could not find ‘a job’ that someone paid him for, did he figure out a way to work and earn money on the side, so he could get out of his desperate circumstances?

Did he have the moral fortitude to know that it was HIS responsibility to work so others did not have to support him? Not his momma, not the government teat?

Signed, a mom and a teacher


40 posted on 03/15/2013 6:36:37 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: yldstrk

If you throw out personal responsibility for your own actions, then anyone can do anything and blame someone else.
My father did not have a good childhood. He joined the Army. He told me that the Drill Sergeants showed him how much they cared about his poor childhood. He started taking responsibility for his life.
None of us can step into a time machine and magically transport back to the time when a kid’s life goes to crap. We can, however, demand that he behave in a civilized manner.


41 posted on 03/15/2013 6:37:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MrB

True, but our culture says “if it feels good, do it” and our culture picks on Christian values as though they are twisted. It is very confusing to the young and to the stupid and the Biblically illiterate


42 posted on 03/15/2013 6:38:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Well, on the bright side, reality has a way of rearing its head and setting things aright.

I hope everyone has read Kipling’s “Gods of the Copybook Headings”.

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm


43 posted on 03/15/2013 6:40:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bboop

well, I think it is the problem of all of us, much as we would like to wash our hands of it, we all share a planet and, at this point, Christian values have to vigorously fought for and taught, and condemning a kid because he didn’t “ have the moral fortitude to know that it was HIS responsibility to work so others did not have to support him” without ever having heard it or having seen it modeled or having an opportunity to have a part time job because all the small businesses are devastated is wrong.


44 posted on 03/15/2013 6:42:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MrB

Wow, I had never read that before. Prescient


45 posted on 03/15/2013 6:47:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kartographer
. . . the outrage over the fatal police shooting of 16-year old Kimani Gray . . . “He’s not the public’s angel. But he’s my baby. And he was slaughtered. And I want to know why . . . Gray’s mother seemed to acknowledge the negative characterizations of her son now swirling in the media. Statements made by the NYPD that Gray was armed, his gun recovered at the scene and other media reports that the teen was an alleged gang member . . . ."

I've seen these images with the reports

Sixteen-years old? Are the MSM trying to make it even worse or was the guy really only eleven or twelve years old.. IOW are some in the MSM using the Trayvon trick to inflame emotions even further by showing the victim as an eleven or twelve-year-old child?

If so then I would like to point out..

President Obama (shown below) has denounced police who act stupidly and has reminded the public of the danger and racism he faces daily.. isn't that enough to get the message across?


46 posted on 03/15/2013 6:48:21 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Her “baby” had 4 bullets in HIS gun. If 1 is enough for the cops who suddenly have a thug pointing a loaded gun at them why would he her “baby” need more than 1?


47 posted on 03/15/2013 6:48:23 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Kartographer

Totally believable.

I can imagine not one but many councilmen or women in Philly proper (or Detroit, or other large metro area) urging unrest and riot.

‘Community Organize’, folks.


48 posted on 03/15/2013 6:49:05 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: yldstrk

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


49 posted on 03/15/2013 6:49:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Is that Stanley next to him?
She looks like a little girl.


50 posted on 03/15/2013 6:50:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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