Skip to comments.Trouble in the Nanny State
Posted on 03/14/2013 3:20:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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This is Coulter at her best!
She still needs to apologize for Romney and Christie.
You read the name of the author of the column and decided to bitch abut her instead of commenting about the article. Correct?
I thought it was, and yes she does
No, I know the history of the author of the column which apparently you don’t.
It is interesting that when conservatives spoke out against unwed motherhood, they were pilloried for being judgmental and uncool. It’s not hip to take a stand on moral grounds. But now the liberals want to take the same position. Not for moral grounds, but because of money.
I’d rather be moral than crass.
This just happened to me the other day...was at the hospital for surgery on a family member and decided to go outside to have a cigarette...walked thru the front doors while digging in my purse for my pack of smokes...no sooner got them out and in view when a hospital security person started running at me and screaming that "you can't smoke here"...my cigarette wasn't even out of the pack yet...and I was on my way to a "designated smoking area"...I have always been what I thought to be a respectful smoker...even when it was legal to smoke in a restaurant I didn't because I felt like people trying to enjoy their meal didn't want to smell my cigarette smoke...you cannot be nice to these people though...respect their rights and you just lose more of your own...now when I see someone giving me the evil eye for smoking, I make damn sure the smoke gets blown in their direction...
That's right! We don't tolerate imperfection in conservative circles!
We only support the most perfect candidates.....which is why the most conservative candidates always lose our support in the primaries!
Liberals would support drone strikes on smokers!
Now, THAT is a poll I would like to see!
You don’t know anything about her. You signed up 1 year and 14 days ago, which was right after the hatred of some in here against her started.,because she opined on something they did not like. Remember everyone has the right to their opionin. That however does not include you since the article is not about her but what these Nannies, especially Mayor Bloomberg are telling everyone what they should do
Thanks a lot for your kindergarten attitude. Some people are deathly allergic to cigarette smoke. Even one whiff of that stinking stuff can trigger an asthma attack which could be fatal. Let’s see how you enjoy a belt half tight enough to hang you, wrapped around your neck, so YOU can’t breathe.
Well, you know how liberals are
I stand by my statement...if I’m in a designated smoking area perhaps the non-smoker should exercise some personal responsibility and stay away...walking into that area and then crying foul or casting dirty looks is typical liberal logic...
Make stuff up much?
“Even one whiff of that stinking stuff can trigger an asthma attack which could be fatal”
Medical source, please.
I call BS. Google it and try to find one instance of it happening. Maybe a few hysterical people dies from a panic attack caused by cigarette smoke.
Hey, why let the facts get in the way of an sensational emotionally appealing story ?
Being we are pretty much neighbors.....I’m gonna be nice and explain to you the folly of someone that hasn’t been around here a month pretty much insulting the intelligence of a longtime member..or two....while showing their own blatant and wide ignorance at the same time.
Hey dude...This ain’t AOL chat...or the local Patch board....this is Free Republic...and as you’ll learn if you stick around long....this is the premier conservative forum on the net. Even Captain Oblivious...or a KOS regular...would know better than to question a FReeper’s grasp and knowledge of Ann Coulter’s history...from her peak during the Bush years to her exposure as a political hack and descent into the same league with all the other political hacks that are considered journalists these days. Any serious thinking FReeper has always seen through Coulter’s facade and charade....she played what some past posters felt were hawt looks into a couple hot books and a sliver of consideration as a serious independent thinker until the 2008 political climate forced her to reveal her true self as she tried to defend McCain like her masters ordered.
That being said...The second and most glaring errr....ummm...logical disconnect you made in your one sentence post..(Wow...that took effort)...was making clear your belief that no matter how well written a piece is...no matter how much truth it contains...no matter what...if YOU do not like/respect/or share the exact political philosophy with an author....YOU consider any and all work composed by that author to be unworthy of a glance. That is sad...and shows a very narrow mind on your part. It reveals a mindset that goes against the very core of what a true conservative should have.
We are about freedom. Free market economy...individual liberty...and the free exchange of ideas in search of truth. How can one justify core beliefs and positions if they are not won fairly in battle against all others in the war to find truth. We are supposed to be the side that, like science, not let emotions and feelings cloud judgment on serious questions, but let facts build until truth is revealed.
Liberals are the ones that allow their emotions dictate their core beliefs, they are the ones who allow feelings and shallow thoughts dictate what they perceive as truth. They are the ones who refuse to listen to the other side....like children. They are the ones who cannot stand on the basic truths of their beliefs, so they resort to being the 8 year old boy standing there covering his ears while shouting his side louder and louder thinking the loudest side wins.
I NEVER look at who wrote a piece until after I read through it at least once...only then because a first glance has revealed the piece to be a political whore turning tricks instead of a serious, intellectually honest effort. I HAD NO CLUE Coulter had penned this piece until you brought it up.
And in the grand scheme of things...on this esteemed forum where one must bring game to play long...The LEAST IMPORTANT detail of each and every piece posted is WHO WROTE IT. The MOST intellectually lazy thing I see on this forum is posters who attack the source or author of a piece instead of the substance in the piece.
Now...back to the piece...I disagree with Coulter’s basic premise of narrowing the root cause of the degradation of society in my lifetime...born in 1967. She singles out single mothers having children out of wedlock and attacks along that narrow front....when in reality....the main issue is the destruction of the family unit due to the deliberate and concerted actions of fed.gov since the 60’s.
My father drove a fuel tanker and made a modest income...yet paid cash for prenatal care and birth for both me and my brother 10 years after me. In 1977....the total bill for 9 months prenatal care by one of the top ob-gyn docs in metro Atlanta and 3 days hospital stay at delivery was just under 4 grand.
My dad paid cash for all our medical needs...which included a siezure problem my brother had that had him see a plethora of specialists over the course of a year...and 10 years of meds after the docs figured it out.
I’m soon to be 46....in my childhood...there was no government involvement in the child support business...No Multi thousand dollar tax rewards given to lower income families for each child they birth that they cannot afford. Very few food stamps. No HMO’s and medicare scams...so medical care was still affordable to lower income families. No DEFACS or gov agency around ready at an instant to swoop in and destroy families because Little Johnny was still mad he didn’t get his way last night when the teacher mistook the normal bruises and wounds that a normal 8 year old boy inflicts on themselves playing for abuse, and told the teacher just how mean his parents were. While looking for the slightest, miniscule reason to get involved in normal families.....the really bad families...the real abuse and neglect...the children that really need someone to help get ignored.
In the past 35 years....things have changed. In my childhood, the family unit in poor and working class was still intact. Now, fed.gov has destroyed the family unit through the system it has set up...Through tax law...social programs....child support recovery...and the public school system....a deliberate strategy has been implemented by fed.gov which not only has destroyed the family unit of lower income people....fed.gov has taken the money to pay for all this from people in the middle and upper class through higher income tax and property taxes.
FED.GOV IS the SINGLE FAULT TO BLAME FOR THE DEGREDATION of American society. Not single moms...not drugs or crack...not deadbeat dads...not the kids....not the teachers...not the media or cable television. It’s not us...IT is THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE POLICIES INSTITUTED BY FED.GOV IN THE LAST 30 YEARS!
That is how it’s done here at FR new poster. Notice how in all that writing I not once mentioned Coulter...or slung baseless insults at other posters that I could not possibly have a clue about. I addressed the piece itself....not only stating my disagreement with it...but also composing in detail in my view what is the correct viewpoint.
Have a good day...and you’re welcome.
I’m a former smoker, started at eighteen years while in the Navy, smoked for eleven years and got to the point it was three packs a day and sometimes a few more. I finally quit at 29 years and now I can’t stand the smell of a cigarette but I have never known of anyone who was so sensitive that a whiff of smoke endangered his life.
Just don't open up a jar of peanut butter near an unsuspecting person. They may also be deathly allergic to peanuts.
In my view, Ann Coulter is comparable to Fredo Corleone's status with Michael Corleone.
I have asthma and have nearly died twice from attacks and second hand smoke especially in an open setting does not scare me in the least. It does bother me in an enclosed area but then I am free to avoid it.
BTW I am ardent supporter of people and business deciding for themselves how to handle smoking.
Typical smoker. Selfish. No one matters but your own addiction. Ever choke on cigarette smoke? Feel your throat close up? Have your eyes and throat burn, your eyes tearing uncontrollably? Ever retch from the sheer stench of cigarette smoke?
What did my father die from? Give you three guesses, but I'm sure you'll get it in one. I'm also sure that smoking contributed to my mother's Alzheimer's disease, with the circulatory problems smoking causes.
Well, if a cigarette smoker presented an imminent threat of death, most state self defense laws would support using lethal force to stop him. Would you feel justified in shooting a cigarette smoker?
I’d rather dump a large bucket of ice cold water over their selfish head. The added benefit would be that it would put out the cigarette that is closing down my breathing.
I'm severely hypothermic. Second hand icewater could kill me.
Still, I believe that people have the right to smoke outside, in their cars, and in their homes. I'm not against smoking, I'm against having to breathe in smoke.
I’m not against their right to smoke. But people have a right to breathe freely as well. If their smoking in their homes, cars, etc. does NOT interfere with my right to breathe, fine. They should only have had to suffer for nearly 2 years as our family did while my father was dying of lung cancer, a direct consequence of his smoking.
I think the cigarettes have a far better chance of doing that than the ice water. Ask my dad. He died from lung cancer. It wasn’t pretty.
I thought we were talking about second hand smoke?
Illegitimacy is a great big elephant in the room, when it comes to social policy.
Nanny State PING!
Thanks for the ping!
Don’y worry your liberal little head, Muffy, we’ll keep trying until we get ya. /s
An allergic reaction requires protein. There is no protein in cigarette smoke.
What these "some people" are experiencing, in your anecdotal opinion is a panic attack, or what physicians used to call "hysteria". Those same "physicians" treated "hysteria" with dildoes and vibrators.
What would you prefer?
Sorry, an allergic reaction does not require protein. Where did you get that? Drugs and dust can also cause allergic reactions, and they are not proteins. How about you stuff a dildo up your stupid lewd mouth and a vibrator out the other end? What a jerk!
Sorry, you are full of it. Any number of medical professionals can tell you that.
Who told you that? An elk? You can be allergic to non-protein substances. Live with it.
I read all the way through the column and thought it was decent, then noticed it’s Coulter, so I don’t know....
I suspected you live in Bloomberg’s city, and are sympathetic to his nanny ways. Your acerbic responses down thread have confirmed my suspicion: You are indeed a liberal a-hole, and a whiner to boot. You’ve been on the wrong web forum since Feb 17, 2008.
Looks like somebody is addicted to hotlinking. ;)
I figured it was important to draw pictures. The libtard is probably analphabetic to boot. :^)