Posted on 03/13/2013 2:33:07 PM PDT by rustyweiss74
Four Democrats involved in an upstate New York voter fraud scandal were sentenced yesterday for their respective roles, receiving punishments ranging from hundreds of hours of community service, to jail time. The group consisted of a former city clerk, an ex-City Councilman, a Democrat operative, and a Committeeman who a year ago had declared ballot forgery in upstate New York to be “a normal political tactic“.
Those sentenced yesterday were cooperating witnesses in a scheme which saw dozens of voters testify that absentee ballots had been submitted in their names during the 2009 Working Families Party (WFP) primary. Securing the WFP line allowed Democrat candidates to obtain more votes in the general election.
Two others were tried together earlier in the year but a mistrial was declared after jurors were unable to sort through the hundreds of charges that both faced.
Later, tried separately, Michael LoPorto was acquitted when a WFP operative “augmented” her testimony, and Ed McDonough similarly was acquitted after a colleague so egregiously altered his testimony that the judge struck everything he said from the record.
Despite the questionable circumstances surrounding those acquittals, witnesses throughout both trials provided a glimpse into the seedy political underworld in upstate New York.
Democrats preyed on those they felt were the most vulnerable members of society, those making easy targets for their voter fraud scheme.
For instance:
They targeted immigrants who struggled with the English language and had little knowledge of the U.S. election process.
They targeted college kids with little money, paying them for their voter registration cards.
They targeted people living in low-income housing because there was a sense that poor people were “less likely to ask any questions".
They tricked mentally disabled individuals into signing over their absentee ballots.
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[. . .witnesses throughout both trials provided a glimpse into the seedy political underworld in upstate New York.]
I doubt these tactics were limited to one county or one state. This little cabal got caught. How many cells like this one were scattered across the U.S.?
“..One must always remember there are no good registered Democrats, child molesters or mussies.............”
Democrats = Communists. The words are synonymous with each other. Scum of the earth....vile, despicable and just outright frickin’ evil. As you put it, they’re in the same category as child molestors, muzzies, demons, etc. The sooner America realizes this, the sooner the country can start the long road to recovery from the damage they’ve wrought upon her.
As you state, there are absolutely no “good” ones that are breathing air or above ambient temperature.
There’s voter fraud out there in the world? The dammocraps are always telling me, there’s no voter fraud! It’s all in the deluded minds of Republicans!
Stiffer penitilies would simply make the criminal all the less likely to confess to his or his partners crimes.
Between secret ballots and fraud prone registration and actual voting rules. Enforcing electoral law is all but impossible, unless the ones breaking it become recklessly stupid & and all but admit to their crimes.
Thanks for the ping.
But, but, ....didn’t Eric Holder say there was reason to have voter ID because there was no evidence of voter fraud in the U.S.? Now there are stories from FL, Ny, Oh and CO and I’m sure others to follow. Perhaps the head of the Dept. of Injustice was wrong.
Voting on many Indian reservations is totally corrupt for the Democrats but no one has the cojones to go after this minority.
There should be a binding online poll to determine what the bastards have to do for their community service. :’)
My first thought as well - - I suspect the judge is a Democrat, corrupt and crooked to the core.
“Respectfully, I disagree with you. Where there is a will, there is always a way. The cost of fixing the system would be MUCH cheaper than what vote fraud is costing the common people in this country. “
In this we have no disarrangement’s, but there is a difference between political possibility and realistic possibility. One is a very small subset of the other. This is in contrast to political desire which extents very far beyond the scope of possibility. (Low info(mob) voters tend to be un-grounded by the laws of physics or any other law a fact liberals tend to celebrate as well as exploit)
“Our voting system can be fixed and here are just a few things that should change:
* require on site registration validation and voter ID at the polls
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Knowing how slow the State is to do anything validation of registration information at the point of voting is a practical impossablity. At least for any state I have ever seen.
People are going to have to register many months in advanced, to give the State time to process, verify, and validate all information. Indeed one of the most difficult things they are going to have to do is check with all 49 other States to see to it that the same person is no longer registered there.
Bio-metric identification may be the only way we can match such a person, and I’m sorry to say its more than likely Washington will have to be involved in resolving disputes.
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* eliminate motor, mail in and website voter registration,
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As theses forms of identification are prone to fraud and include the set of the population not even interested enough to go register much-less pay attention to politics I agree, they must be abolished for there to be an honest & legitimate election.
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* require validation of all absentee ballets prior to election day”
Once again I agree, although the key issue is prior to counting said ballet, which is not necessarily election day.
It is of course permissible for some states to set such ballets aside until such time that the voters to which they are attached have been validated as both a legitimate citizen and having voted only with this ballot.
Of course this practice raises the potability of endangering the secrete ballot, but the State & individual(by participation) involved will have to weigh the consequences of the trade off. Secrete ballot or same-day registration.
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* eliminate all electronic vote and vote counting machines, use paper ballots exclusively and mandate triple counting,”
I’m not sure this measure will be of any real benefit. Double counting votes with 2 different machines(one provided by republicans the other by Democrats) might be beneficial but hand counting is over kill.
Anther method is dissection and inspection of said machines by technical experts appointed & approved by each party.
However from a practical standpoint, there really is little we can do to keep dishonest precincts from inflating their voter rolls, as long as we have a secrete ballot.
Perhaps placing pardison observers in each voting precinct to watch the boxes like a hawk from time of cast to time of fair count is the best option. Although we have had issue with that in respect to those observers being closed out.
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* ink the finger of those who vote at the polls
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Unlike in Iraq we Americans have access to ink removers, we would also object to the mess. I think using bio-metric identification is a better approach with respect to our technical capabilities.
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* make vote fraud a felony with a minimum of 20 years in the pin if convicted.
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While I feel that theses people probably deserve as harsh a sentence as you do, I also know how utterly depended our fraud prone voting system is upon such admissions of guilt. This is primarily due to the way election law has been crafted making detection of voter fraud all but impossible.
Adding a huge penility is only going to discourage guilty plees and given our depends upon guilty plees for conviction and detection in voter fraud cases that is a very bad idea.
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*If those changes disenfranchise any voter, OH WELL! “
No legitimate voter will ever be disenfranchised, by said verification measures. What the left is concerned with is the illegitimate voters, the illegal aliens, the criminally convicted, ect... All of which can currently find away to vote illegal, not merely once but many times in our broken system.
“Those voters need to be better prepared for the next election if they want to participate.”
This is in my mind one of the biggest keys to a successful democracy. The citizens that cast their vote actually have to be willing to put some effort& forethought into that vote. If they are not even willing to put enough effort & forethought into registration what possible effort or forethought might they have put into who they voted for?
We have a apathetic electorate with many if not most people unable to recall even the most basic political facts, ranging from the terms of our Constitution to the policy positions of the men their voting for or against.
Tell me how on earth does a “democracy” function with such an electorate?
‘rats & leftists, no matter how many incidents of unlawful behavior you point out,
always claim there’s no pattern, no connection, they’re just isolated incidents...
Keep score folks. These folks should experience the full consequences of what they’ve wrought.
Now someone needs to file suit against them for civil rights violation. Community service, what a joke. Drag them through a lawsuit and make them pay. That’s the olny way you will stop this.
The community would be served by sending these jerks to the slammer!
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