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California Seizes Guns As Owners Lose Right To Keep Arms
Western Journalism Center ^ | March 12, 2013 | none stated

Posted on 03/12/2013 5:20:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.

They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.

“What do we do about the guns that are already in the hands of persons who, by law, are considered too dangerous to possess them?” Harris said in a letter to Vice President Joe Biden after a Connecticut school shooting in December left 26 dead. She recommended that Biden, heading a White House review of gun policy, consider California as a national model.

As many as 200,000 people nationwide may no longer be qualified to own firearms, according to Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis. Other states may lack confiscation programs because they don’t track purchases as closely as California, which requires most weapons sales go through a licensed dealer and be reported.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; confiscation; gun; guncontrol; mental; secondamendment
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To: Texas Fossil

I appreciate your thoughts there, but your state is allowing itself to be occupied just like California did. Sooner or later things go upside down when that happens.

In time, Texas will be Californi-like, unless it puts a stop to what killed California.


41 posted on 03/12/2013 6:10:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: Texas Fossil

True Texas Fossil, but the point is, they knew he had guns.

We don’t have to register our weapons in state.

How did they know he had guns to take?


42 posted on 03/12/2013 6:12:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: cyn

Yes, it’s one way they can chip away at gun ownership. Pretty slow going though as it won’t apply to many. This lady wasn’t legally adjudicated mentally incompetent to she has some leverage to fight this. That means letting some lawyer/s tap your bank account though. If she does have a case they should contact the NRA, get some legal advice/help there and get this case known so they can get legal and financial help. Gotta make these commies lose as often as possible.


43 posted on 03/12/2013 6:12:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: umgud

umgud: “Was she ajudicated mentally defective?”

That’s a very good question. Constitutional rights aren’t unlimited, but there’s also something in there about not being able to punish people without giving them a proper trial.


44 posted on 03/12/2013 6:12:53 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Not sure. Probably depends on state law.

Are offending state laws Constitutional? Do you expect an Obozo court to find in the favor of the citizens rights.

He thinks he is above the law and makes them up as they go along.

DICTATOR? He thinks so. So do the Commie Dems.

We shall see.


45 posted on 03/12/2013 6:13:30 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

There should have been a shootout. Just taking out 2 of them is a positive.


46 posted on 03/12/2013 6:14:11 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Texas Fossil

This article is not clear who was in the mental hospital- the woman or her husband.


47 posted on 03/12/2013 6:14:19 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am sure that CA requires handgun registery.


48 posted on 03/12/2013 6:14:35 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Tammy8

If you read the link to bloomberg at the bottom of the article it is clear the woman was admitted to Psyc Hospital.


49 posted on 03/12/2013 6:15:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: muawiyah
Check with the Caliornia state legislature ~ they’re mostly nut cases, and they’ve all got weapons.

I could not agree more. There are lots of other people in CA with guns who scare the hell out of me and no one in law enforcement seems a bit interested in seizing their weapons: the Crips, Bloods, Fifth Street Gang, the Mexican Mafia, MS-13, the 38th St. Gang,violent drug-financed motorcycle gangs and so on. Where's the focus on the real criminals?

50 posted on 03/12/2013 6:15:49 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Pollster1

This policy is going to lead to some very necessary deaths. I’m going to cheer when the proper people start catching lead.


51 posted on 03/12/2013 6:17:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Most of the weapons are destroyed.

Riiigggghhhhhhtttt!!!!


52 posted on 03/12/2013 6:18:18 PM PDT by bikerman ("A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don't have it you wont need one again.)
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To: Texas Fossil
"or deemed mentally unstable."

I believe the term for this is "double edged sword"...

53 posted on 03/12/2013 6:18:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Texas Fossil

Big question is: What are we going to do about it?


54 posted on 03/12/2013 6:19:38 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: struggle

“Cops: We’re here to get your guns.
Woman: Get a search warrant.”

Cops: We have an anonymous tip saying you’re mentally ill. Cuff her.


55 posted on 03/12/2013 6:19:49 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Before Texas is anything like CA a lot of blood will be spilled. You can take that one to the bank.

The culture here has never tolerated Subjection. Never Ever.

The Left simply does not have a clue about the box they are opening.


56 posted on 03/12/2013 6:20:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Well it’s a sure bet the DOJ isn’t going to enforce ANYTHING that goes against their leftist/statist agenda, but that wasn’t really the answer to my question. I was really making the point that I don’t see how this can possibly be constitutional. How in the world can California morally and constitutionally seize private property from an innocent citizen who wasn’t even the person who received mental health treatment? Plus, even if they can take property, how can they do so to someone who isn’t first charged and found guilty of a crime in a court of law?


57 posted on 03/12/2013 6:20:15 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Ok thanks, I wish we had real reporters.


58 posted on 03/12/2013 6:22:40 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8
"WOW I hope there is at least a competency hearing for him to have a chance to defend himself if he does not agree."

Oh i am sure eventually you'd get a court date. However, the gun confiscation seems immediate. And I bet they are fairly fast at destroying them also.

59 posted on 03/12/2013 6:22:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: struggle

I am happy for you. I sure wouldn’t to live in that state.


60 posted on 03/12/2013 6:23:16 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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