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AP Exclusive: Applying for health care not easy
AP ^ | March 12, 2013 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 03/12/2013 4:59:23 PM PDT by thouworm

It runs 15 pages for a three-person family. The online version has 21 steps, some with added questions.

At least three major federal agencies, including the IRS, will scrutinize your application.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0care; abortion; deathpanel; deathpanels; healthcare; obamacare; obamacareapplication; whatcouldgowrong; zerocare
That's only the beginning....
1 posted on 03/12/2013 4:59:23 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

What a disaster! This nightmare has hardly begun, and the damages are already catastrophically apparent.

I’ve started to keyword threads highlighting the most egregious consequences with

0care and/or zerocare

and *that* just since Jan 2013!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/0care/index?tab=articles
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/zerocare/index?tab=articles


2 posted on 03/12/2013 5:06:25 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm
unintended consequences

Obamacare May Bite You At The Vet’s Office

3 posted on 03/12/2013 5:08:02 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

Next up: community organizations [ACORN] funded by taxpayer dollars to help low-income people [minorities] fill out the forms. I can see the corruption from here.


4 posted on 03/12/2013 5:15:40 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: thouworm

When 80% of NYC high school graduates can’t read, what can go wrong with a 15-page application for ObamaCare?

Of course, thousands of taxpayer-paid community organizers will be on hand to help the Poor file several sets of papers...just like they each get 10-12 ObamaPhones now.


5 posted on 03/12/2013 5:19:38 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ConjunctionJunction

lol! seriously! quite serious!

The possibilities are endless. That’s why ZeroCare is such a coup (pun intended).


6 posted on 03/12/2013 5:20:26 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

The goal never was to provide good health care. This was a Democrat plan. It is all about putting money in Democrat pockets and Democrats into office.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:31 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: thouworm

choke us on it, ram it down our throats and we’ll shove it up yer ...


8 posted on 03/12/2013 5:35:23 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: blueunicorn6

not to mention control over 1/6-1/5 of the economy and all of that “private” information. The possibilities are limitless.

ARMED TROOPERS RAID HOME, CONFISCATE GUNS AFTER MENTAL HEALTH VISIT... [Drudge’s headline to the article]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/california-seizes-guns-as-owners-lose-right-to-bear-arms.html?cmpid=yhoo


9 posted on 03/12/2013 5:45:48 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

AP, WaPo, CBS, the NYT, and the entire MSM are just discovering this after Obama got reelected?

It smells like rats.


10 posted on 03/12/2013 6:31:01 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Remember, "You need to pass the bill to find out what's in it."

The corollary is, "And after you pass the bill, you will never know what we do with it until it is posted regulatory law."

Thousands of ObamaCare regulations have been implemented since ObamaCare was passed.

Obama Adm is continuing to wing it as we speak.

Your Doctor To Become 1-Person Death Panel? Government-funded ‘mortality index’ raises worries over Obamacare rationing

11 posted on 03/12/2013 6:57:19 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

Most that want this free stuff have an IQ of less than 85. They cant fill out anything more complex than a lotto ticket stub.This is great news and means most parasites will not make it!! YES!!


12 posted on 03/12/2013 7:20:47 PM PDT by willardwx
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To: willardwx; ConjunctionJunction; txrefugee

Don’t rejoice yet.

They will incur ObamaCare fines. I can only imagine Obama Adm will pardon the ObamaCare fines for the “poor” and minorities. OR see post 4 & 5 for another “no-fail” alternative.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 7:30:26 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm
I don't know about anyone else, but, I WON'T be applying for Obamacare period!

The socialized health-care goes directly against my religious beliefs and therefore will not be participating in providing free funding to illegal aliens and Obama moochers!

Time to take a stand, gun control will be the next line in the sand!

14 posted on 03/12/2013 8:08:12 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: thouworm
WOW, I must have a crystal ball where I stated the government would start confiscation of firearms by attrition.

This is why it is so important for the rats to get their National Firearm Registry Data base so they can fin the firearms and then confiscate them!

Remember, the government gets to determine who is “mentally” competpetent to possess a firearm, just like in your case you provided in California!

No sir, I refuse to participate in this socialized health care, and gun confiscation program by this government!

15 posted on 03/12/2013 8:08:40 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: thouworm
Wait until Obama’s low information masses find out they have to pay for their health care. Those now receiving Medicaid will be waiting twice as long to see a doctor when 20 million new clients are dumped into the system. Those emergency rooms are about to get more crowded.
16 posted on 03/12/2013 8:54:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: willardwx

“This is great news and means most parasites will not make it!! YES!!”
We only wish, I fear they are like cock roaches and will survive almost anything.


17 posted on 03/12/2013 10:32:37 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Wait until Obama’s low information masses find out they have to pay for their health care.”
Yeah I know what you mean; I keep asking my donut man when he’s going to buy insurance for him and his family. He’s a small business owner with a one man shop and says he won’t buy insurance because he thinks he doesn’t have to. He voted for Obama.


18 posted on 03/12/2013 10:44:05 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: thouworm

Never forget to thank a liberal voter when your filling out his paper work and paying his taxes.

Life uses to be easier, we uses to have more freedom. Don’t ever let liberals forget how much they hurt you. Don’t ever let them think you appreciated their busybody impositions.

Remind them consistently and regularly of the trouble they put you thou. If they really are bleeding hearts maybe, just maybe they will bleed a little for you instead.


19 posted on 03/13/2013 3:31:12 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: thouworm

On the path to beginning Medicare, I can affirm that nothing the fedgov touches can remain simple.

The lawyers who write these laws get paid by the word.


20 posted on 03/13/2013 3:35:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: WilliamRobert

““This is great news and means most parasites will not make it!! YES!!”
We only wish, I fear they are like cock roaches and will survive almost anything.”

This is what a lot of people do for a living, fill out government paper work to get money.
Some of them even go to theses special offices and have the government pay for other folks to fill out that paper work for them.

To be honest I don’t begruge anyone who evades taxes or fills out this paper work, precisely because I know as long as the Government demands & enables it people will and the professionalism of them will build up political machines to get more and more of it.

Id rather have an honest man cheat the State, than a dishonest man make a career out of exploiting & driving this corruption.

At least the honest man knows when to stop and does not support this evil where it counts. In this respect the Honest man is helping to drain the Cess pool with his acts while refusing to add to it.


21 posted on 03/13/2013 3:37:34 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: nascarnation

“On the path to beginning Medicare, I can affirm that nothing the fedgov touches can remain simple.

The lawyers who write these laws get paid by the word.”

Most politicians particularly democrats are lawyers. Liberals like it that way, which is why any politician with a business background is condemned and attacked for it.

The last thing they want is someone in Washington who actually knows how to produce something rather than regulate, litigate, and tax everyone into the ground.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 3:42:43 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: PotatoChop

I agree, I just wish The so called “republican” leader of the house had an inch of moral fiber with in him.

The man who commands is the man who doesn’t take no for an answer and stands his ground for what is right. A man who follows is a man who conseeds on every core issue, for minor gains.

You talk to John and its as if a “government shut down” is the end of the world as if 2.7 trillion dollars is not enough to pay for all the “essential” government services.

If John is right and a Government shutdown is unacceptable then so too is a balanced budget, which would necessarily mean running the government on that same 2.7 trillion in revenue.

No amount of new taxes is going to get Washington any more money, and if your going to budget for the highs of good times than your going to forever build debt from the bad times. Debt that we have already been building at an exponential rate for 80+ years.


23 posted on 03/13/2013 3:57:23 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

As a smart guy on CNBC mentioned several years ago:

China has central planning by scientists, engineers, and mathematicians, and the US has central planning by lawyers.
Neither is good, but by definition we lose this game.


24 posted on 03/13/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dontreadthis

IF Obamacare is mandatory-—why should anyone have to fill out an ‘application’?

If it is ‘universal’ care for every person in the USA, then an ‘appolication’ is redundant.

The IRS will ‘scrutinize’ my ‘application’???

Good luck with that.

This is turning into a bureaucratic nightmare, from which there is no escape.

Every part of all these new rules is grounds to abandon Obamacare.

Where are the strong Republicans who will actually put Sebelius on trial along with Pelosi?

Doctors and other medical professionals are poised to find other work or go underground.

I would rather be treated for minor items by an ‘underground’ doctor than get involved into Obamacare.

Also- Why is there all the talk about ‘your medical records are electronic and available to any other medical professional’ when a friend of mine has to fill out new PAPERWORK EVERY TIME he is referred to another professional medical person.

He is getting his main treatments from the VA, but some things, they refer to outside specialists. He is going nuts with all the ‘Fill this out paperwork’.

This needs to end.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 9:09:01 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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