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Five Guys: Obamacare will boost burger prices [job losses because of Obamacare]
Washington Examiner ^ | March 11, 2013

Posted on 03/11/2013 9:22:40 PM PDT by grundle

The fight over Obamacare, so far held at the 30,000-foot level, is about to hit home. The latest impact hot off the grill: prices of burgers and hot dogs at Five Guys, the national chain that started in Washington, are going to rise to cover the president's mandated insurance coverage.

"Any added costs are going to have to be passed on," said Mike Ruffer, a Five Guys franchise holder with eight of the popular restaurants in the Raleigh-Durham, N.C. area. He will need all the profits from at least one of his eight outlets just to cover his estimated added $60,000-a year in new Obamacare costs.

What's more, he's iced plans to build another three restaurants until after the administration explains the exact rules and penalties employers will face. The law's plan to have those available March 1 has been pushed back to October.

"I'm kind of in a holding pattern," said Ruffer, a former Marriott executive who added that many franchise owners are in a similar situation.

Ruffer was the star witness at a Monday Heritage Foundation seminar on the impact Obamacare will have on small businesses. He is typical of many: Because he has enough full time employees to activate the law, he faces either coughing up the money to provide health insurance or paying a fine of up to $3,000 per worker.

Ruffer initially thought he would escape the law because he created each restaurant as its own company. But the law doesn't recognize that distinction, so now he's trying to determine if he can fire enough workers, or cut enough hours, to slide out of the grasp of Obamacare.

He said that "scorched earth plan," however, would hurt his restaurants, so Ruffer is likely to either pay the fine or buy insurance. But spreading the costs over his basic menu of fries, drinks, burgers and hot dogs, could scare off customers, he worries. He said that the recent spike in gas prices cut into his profits since fewer people were stopping at his restaurants.

And the health care law isn't only going to hit Ruffer. He's quizzed his workers to ask if they understand that they will be fined if they don't get health insurance. Just one of 20 workers were aware of the $95 tax penalty that rises to $695 by 2016.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; fallout; fiveguys; freehealthcare; obamacare
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1 posted on 03/11/2013 9:22:40 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Their burgers are already 40% higher than most other burger joints.


2 posted on 03/11/2013 9:23:34 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: grundle

Sounds like someone is aching for a drone strike. I think criticizing Obama like this makes them enemy combatants.


3 posted on 03/11/2013 9:26:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RightFighter

Tell me about it! That is one reason I refuse to eat there!


4 posted on 03/11/2013 9:31:09 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: grundle

5 posted on 03/11/2013 9:33:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: grundle

The sick part about it: Five Guys is Obama’s favorite burger joint! He has said so in the past.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 9:34:36 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: grundle

it is so wrong muslims are exempt from all this crap. either we all are or none of us are.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 9:40:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RightFighter

Well, the term “burger joint” comes out of the what, 70’s? Five Guys is right in line price wise with similar restaurants - the home made burger restaurants that give huge servings of fries and all kinds of condiments.


8 posted on 03/11/2013 9:45:01 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: grundle

It’s only just begun...


9 posted on 03/11/2013 10:01:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: grundle


10 posted on 03/11/2013 10:04:51 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: RightFighter

BeeeCuzzzz They are way better than CrapDonalds....


11 posted on 03/11/2013 10:18:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

At least Mickey D’s does not allow EBT unlike BK, Subway etc...


12 posted on 03/11/2013 10:21:37 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: RightFighter

Yes. A bit higher price for a far better burger.


13 posted on 03/11/2013 10:22:50 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: grundle
Universal Suffrage

The socialist dictatorships of Chavez, Castro, and Hussein Baraka wouldn't be possible without it.

14 posted on 03/11/2013 10:22:50 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: max americana

Some Mickey D’s do accept EBT.


15 posted on 03/11/2013 10:24:49 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: grundle

They just opened a few in Memphis. I didn’t know the One liked them.


16 posted on 03/11/2013 10:30:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: max americana

I don’t have a real problem with EBT at Subway, BK, etc.

I do have a problem with purchases of sugar laden foods and alcoholic beverages.

My mileage and we are probably on the same page.


17 posted on 03/11/2013 10:48:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: grundle
Tried the place once. Slow service and a burger that really wasn't worth the $10 price tag. I get a better value at Fuddruckers for fancy stuff or Carl's Jr. In-an-Out is decent too, but I don't go there often either.

A competitor in Pocatello posted a remark on his own sign: One guy. Better burgers. Faster. Cheaper. Correct on all accounts.

18 posted on 03/11/2013 11:16:49 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: null and void

I would make this bet...by 2016, a delux Five Guys burger will likely run around $14.


19 posted on 03/12/2013 12:11:44 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: grundle

“Ruffer initially thought he would escape the law because he created each restaurant as its own company. But the law doesn’t recognize that distinction...”

How does it not “recognize that distinction”? If you have SEPARATE COMPANIES how can it hold those as legally one?

What if a small businessman owns several completely unrelated companies? Are they all lumped into one?


20 posted on 03/12/2013 12:17:18 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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