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House GOP Leaders: We Can Pass Gun Control, Immigration, Without Republican Support
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | March 10, 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 03/11/2013 5:46:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

With more and more conservatives in the House rebelling against John Boehner’s increasingly questionable Speakership, Republican House leadership is now moving to quash in-house concerns by reaching across the aisle for support. Leadership is moving in the wake of a surprising move by 16 House Republicans to vote against a Republican leadership-crafted closed rule on a government funding bill. The rule was designed to limit amendments to the government funding bill, but some House conservatives, concerned over the Boehner team’s refusal to consider a floor vote on an amendment to defund Obamacare implementation, bucked Boehner on the rule.

After undergoing that unpleasant shock, House leadership hasn’t responded by listening to the concerns of the more conservative members of its caucus. Instead, House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said on Sunday that he would be open to ramming through bills without the support of a majority of his own Republican caucus. Not just on small bills. On issues like immigration and gun control, McCarthy said, he’d be open to taking rogue Republicans across the aisle to work with Democrats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bang; banglist; boehner; gope; guncontrol; mccarthy; notjustbangmoron; secondamendment
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The sell-out is now complete...!
1 posted on 03/11/2013 5:46:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Not yet. They still need DOZENS of Democrats to support them, at least on gun control, as those Democrats know that a gun control vote will mean the end of their Congressional career - and most of them plan to be there a LOT LONGER.

I think this is TOTALLY a bluff, to get Republicans to buy-in on Amnesty. They already know the gun control issue is lost for them.


2 posted on 03/11/2013 5:49:30 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Timber Rattler

Not that I have any faith the ability to right things through elections anymore to begin with, but that’s the green light for a huge tear away of Republican party members to a 3rd party or formation of one nevertheless.


3 posted on 03/11/2013 5:49:33 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Timber Rattler

Why did they ever reelect the bonehead to the Speakership position. The guy has done nothing except spit upon the conservatives while basking in his sun tan booth sipping Black Jack on the rocks. These guys don’t wish to be the anti dems, they would rather just be the loyal collaboration, kind of a Vichy party.


4 posted on 03/11/2013 5:51:24 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Timber Rattler

We need to totally dump the RINO GOPe.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 5:52:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

Leadership?....what Leadership?... did bonehead even know Gramnesty arranged the little gathering with Odungo last week? Were being sold a dead squirrel and told it’s a mink.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 5:54:01 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Mouton

Vichyites, Quislingites, Nottobetrustedeverites......

Call girls have more integrity & self respect. And they at least charge for being serviced. Geez.......!

):^(


7 posted on 03/11/2013 5:54:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Mouton; BobL
Democrats know that a gun control vote will mean the end of their Congressional career

Not with John Boehner as Speaker. Boehner should have lost his position in the House elections ago. It's over for the GOP. The democrats know they will regain the House in 2014. And you can thank John Boehner for that.

8 posted on 03/11/2013 5:55:48 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Timber Rattler; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ..
RE :”After undergoing that unpleasant shock, House leadership hasn’t responded by listening to the concerns of the more conservative members of its caucus. Instead, House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said on Sunday that he would be open to ramming through bills without the support of a majority of his own Republican caucus. Not just on small bills. On issues like immigration and gun control, McCarthy said, he’d be open to taking rogue Republicans across the aisle to work with Democrats.”

Its clear that this is what the House is doing,
Boehner will pass whatever Reid sends him. There are no alternative GOP bills in the House that can get majority GOP vote, and not one of them challenged Bohner by running against him, instead they will just vote their 'no's as the Reid crap passes to Os desk.
So this is the sad state of affairs that we are stuck with.

9 posted on 03/11/2013 5:56:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: Timber Rattler

What you mean “WE” blue man.


10 posted on 03/11/2013 5:57:09 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Mouton

They re-elected Boehner because no one else would take the job.


11 posted on 03/11/2013 5:57:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Timber Rattler

This will start the demise of the ‘GOP controlled’ House, culminating into a Democrat victory in 2014. When the Republicans won in 2010 and they decided to elected Jon Boehner, I knew that it was the beginning of the end.


12 posted on 03/11/2013 5:58:25 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Venturer
They re-elected Boehner because no one else would take the job.

No worries. Nancy Pelosi will have it next year.

13 posted on 03/11/2013 6:00:10 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Timber Rattler

McCain/Boehner 2016 - leading the GOP into the future!

(Can you imagine what an utter failure that would be?)

The GOPe is no friend to the success of conservatives. The GOPe is only interested in re-election and being part of the political class.

It is time to fire them all.


14 posted on 03/11/2013 6:02:27 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Venturer

Not one of them stood up to challenge Boehner and offer an alternative, they will just vote their symbolic ‘no’s and Reids crap passes.

Ryan will come out with another symbolic budget resolution that once again repeals O-care.


15 posted on 03/11/2013 6:03:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: LibFreeUSA

John Boehner has left nothing (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING) for us to support. He should have stepped down from that postion long ago. Obama will have a super majority during the 2nd half of his second term.


16 posted on 03/11/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Timber Rattler

“... by reaching across the aisle for support.”

Nothing new there.


17 posted on 03/11/2013 6:03:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Timber Rattler
Thankfully, Ben Shapiro has an update to this at the link to his Breitbart article ...

"In a statement to The Hill, McCarthy spokesperson Mike Long said: "Whip McCarthy strongly supports returning to regular order to bring legislation to the floor that has the support of a majority of the majority. Insinuation to the contrary is completely false.""

18 posted on 03/11/2013 6:05:07 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: tsowellfan

I hope not, but it wouldn’t surprise me.


19 posted on 03/11/2013 6:06:26 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Timber Rattler; AT7Saluki

20 posted on 03/11/2013 6:06:36 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I have my doubts about Mike Long’s backtracking in that update....McCarthy opened his big mouth, announced what they were going to do, and then realized that he had tipped over another hornet’s nest. Never believe any so-called “clarification.”


21 posted on 03/11/2013 6:11:27 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tsowellfan

“Not with John Boehner as Speaker. Boehner should have lost his position in the House elections ago. It’s over for the GOP.”

We’ll see - I won’t give up until the votes are cast in 2014. Right now the Democrats are in ABJECT FEAR over gun control...knowing their history on that issue. Boehner may want to “pass legislation” (as they say), but he’ll still have to get the votes, and I still don’t think those votes are there.


22 posted on 03/11/2013 6:11:42 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sounds like GWBush the morning after the 2006 elections — that he now had a Congress he could work with, to get immigration reform passed.

[Didn’t work for GWBush then. May not work for Boehner now.]


23 posted on 03/11/2013 6:15:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BobL
Right now the Democrats are in ABJECT FEAR over gun control...knowing their history on that issue.

Their history on that issue is that they are FOR it, that's why they are democrats and those that put them in power already knew their history.

24 posted on 03/11/2013 6:15:34 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Timber Rattler

Those 16 or so who had a chance to end his speakership in January should have done so.

If the Republicans keep the House in 2014, they better do it in January 2015, or he will sell us out to the remaining Obama agenda.


25 posted on 03/11/2013 6:18:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Servant of the Cross

We are too anxious to attack our own. Many of us forget the REAL enemy is Obama, not the GOP.


26 posted on 03/11/2013 6:18:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather

That is kinda funny.


27 posted on 03/11/2013 6:21:26 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Venturer
I hope not, but it wouldn’t surprise me

When you think about it... I mean REALLY think about it and look at all that Obama has done since 2010 from Egypt to Libya to the debt, the power grabs, unconstitutional moves, declaring Congress in recess when it was not - (with the exception of ObamaCare being passed) much more of Obama's damage has been done UNDER a John Boehner led House than it was under a Pelosi led House.

Now that is telling.

28 posted on 03/11/2013 6:23:34 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper
We are too anxious to attack our own. Many of us forget the REAL enemy is Obama, not the GOP.

With the exception of ObamaCare, Obama has advanced more of his liberal agenda under a John Boehner led House than he did under Nancy Pelosi.

John Boehner is NOT on our side. He never was.

29 posted on 03/11/2013 6:26:43 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: MachIV

>>Not that I have any faith the ability to right things through elections anymore to begin with, but that’s the green light for a huge tear away of Republican party members to a 3rd party or formation of one nevertheless.

Yes. It is possible. It has happened already in Canada, which at one time was thought as unthinkable as many might believe now it is in the USA, and looks like it is about to happen in the UK.

It’s not pretty, and it is not quick, but it could happen. The big difference with those other countries, though, is SCOTUS. It seems to me it’s much more powerful in the USA than it’s counterpart elsewhere.


30 posted on 03/11/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: tsowellfan

Of course they’re for it...but they still know what happens to them if they vote that way, at least the ones in competitive districts. Jack Brooks learned that lesson in 1994.


31 posted on 03/11/2013 6:29:15 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Timber Rattler

Time to tell the R’s they get no financial support from us ever again, and we WILL support a 3rd party.


32 posted on 03/11/2013 6:31:30 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: BobL
In 1994 many more American voters knew what the US Consitution was. Today we have foreignors (millions of them) voting in our elections even though it's not legal, not to mention the Americans who think safety trumps the US Constitution. This is not 1994. If it were, you would have a very good point.

In 1994 to admit to being a socialist was only a few steps above being a child molester.

Now it appears to be the new fad.

33 posted on 03/11/2013 6:32:55 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper
We are too anxious to attack our own. Many of us forget the REAL enemy is Obama, not the GOP.

Very true. However, I was anxious pissed off myself and went to the article (Ben Shapiro is the real deal) to verify it. H*ll, just last week Boehner said this!

Boehner: I won’t make practice of passing bills without GOP support

34 posted on 03/11/2013 6:33:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SoFloFreeper
“Many of us forget the REAL enemy is Obama, not the GOP”

It is getting harder and harder to tell the difference.
Throw a bunch of pennies on the floor. Heads are Republicans, tails are democrats. Now stand up. Pretty hard to tell the difference, ain't it? Two sides of the same coin. Especially when using the most worthless coin in the pot.

35 posted on 03/11/2013 6:35:02 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I honestly don’t see any difference between the 2. Tell me the difference between Obama and the GOPe, again?


36 posted on 03/11/2013 6:35:08 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Timber Rattler; Servant of the Cross
RE :”I have my doubts about Mike Long’s backtracking in that update....McCarthy opened his big mouth, announced what they were going to do, and then realized that he had tipped over another hornet’s nest. Never believe any so-called “clarification.”

They are saying they want to pass bills with majority GOP support but if they cant get enough Republicans to sign onto alternative bills that pass the house (with all Dems voting NO), which is even harder this session than it was last session because they lost seats, then they will continue to pass the Reid bills with house Dem votes.
If the House GOP could pass alternative bills then I guess Boehner would take them to conference.

Putting up the Reid VAWA for a vote really was bad

the House is split into two camps : 1) The 'Dem light' camp and 2) the 'dont pass nuffin' camp, a pretty nice situation for Pelosi and Obama,.

37 posted on 03/11/2013 6:35:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: tsowellfan

There are also a LOT MORE gun owners today and this is the first taste they’re getting of the gun-grabbers. We also have our media sources, including this blog.

Either way, we’ll find out soon enough. One of us will be right.


38 posted on 03/11/2013 6:36:11 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Timber Rattler

The elite golfing brigade is our enemy.


39 posted on 03/11/2013 6:36:11 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Timber Rattler

When will people learn that the republican leadership are nothing more then Big Government New World Order socialists, and this goes back to Bush I and Bush II and includes Bush III.

They will give their friends in the Democrat party what they want, because they support the same agenda.

Yes, this means Rush, Hannity and all of the other conservative talking bobble hears are wrong or misleading us on purpose.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 6:36:54 AM PDT by stockpirate (Sen. John Kerry belonged to the terrorist group VVAW.)
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To: Timber Rattler

If boehner follows through with this crap it will destroy the pubbie party as well it should


41 posted on 03/11/2013 6:37:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: butterdezillion

Obama has a D next to his name and those in the GOP have an R next to theirs. We are the “R”s. We need to support the “R”s because they are not “D”s. Hopefully the “R”s will trick the “D”s and come out with their own ban on guns and tax hikes faster than the “D”s so that the “R”s will get the credit for the ban on guns and tax hikes instead of the “D”s.

< /sarc


42 posted on 03/11/2013 6:39:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: butterdezillion

The GOP House of Representatives passed a bill repealing Obamacare. Three times I think


43 posted on 03/11/2013 6:40:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Timber Rattler; Fred Nerks

On issues like immigration and gun control, McCarthy said, he’d be open to taking rogue Republicans across the aisle to work with Democrats.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The dying gasp of the RINO GOP.

Like I have been saying for months, the RINO GOP is dead.Obama has actually succeeded in killing off the Progressive ink blots of the GOP who can represent no body. The only grace these RINOs have managed in this new session is in allowing the sequester, and that was an issue forced by conservatives, so now the RINOs hate Rand Paul?

Let the frivolous psychopomps sell out.

Time for a third party.


44 posted on 03/11/2013 6:46:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: sickoflibs
The Stupid Party strikes again under the leadership of Sheriff Boehner.


45 posted on 03/11/2013 6:48:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: sickoflibs

The more Repubs try to look like Dems——the dumber they look.

They are falling right into the trap set by the cunning power-mad Dem-O’s——to divide and conqueur——to split the Repubs so’s the Dem-O’s can takeover at midterms.


46 posted on 03/11/2013 6:49:50 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Libloather
I'm pretty sure that 'Ruger, "Union Worker" ' pistol is the only handgun that can be legally owned by the citizens of Chicago
47 posted on 03/11/2013 6:50:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: BobL
There are also a lot more government workers (gun owners and non gun owners), more people on disability and depenendent on a government check and Obama phone. Unless the unemployment rate drops down below 6% between now and next year I doubt the election will be about gun control. In fact, the reason why the democrats are pushing for this NOW is to get it done, allow for a cooling down period among the elecorate, other issues will move to the front burner between now and election day, if the economy worsens you know very well that Obama and Pelosi will blame the republican House. If the economy improves they will claim it was because of Obama/Reid and could have been much better if the democrats had been in control of the House and NOT the Republicans.

Gun control will be discussed in 2014 about as much as Fast and Furious was in 2012 because the MSM will make it so.

48 posted on 03/11/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper
Many of us forget the REAL enemy is Obama, not the GOP.

The backstabbing GOP-E is as much an enemy to Conservatives as Obama.

49 posted on 03/11/2013 6:55:39 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Liz
They are falling right into the trap set by the cunning power-mad Dem-O’s

Several people have claimed that John Boehner has this job because NOBODY else wanted it. That tells me that the trap is being deliberately set by the GOP themselves so that they will lose the majority in 2014. It's really an easy way out if no republican really wants the job.

It's so much easier just to be the minority party.

The only traps being set are being set by the side that wants to lose.

50 posted on 03/11/2013 6:57:53 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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