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House GOP Leaders: We Can Pass Gun Control, Immigration, Without Republican Support
Big Government ^ | March 10, 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 03/10/2013 2:39:04 PM PDT by Bratch

With more and more conservatives in the House rebelling against John Boehner’s increasingly questionable Speakership, Republican House leadership is now moving to quash in-house concerns by reaching across the aisle for support.

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This is a declaration of war within the Republican ranks. And it should be deeply troubling to Republicans across the country, watching as the recently and controversially reminted House leadership continues to pursue the same political philosophy that led to a mini-rebellion in the House in January.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; gop; gope; kevinmccarthy; mccarthy; rinos

1 posted on 03/10/2013 2:39:04 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Hey pubbies! Ever wonder why I’m not answering my phone? “Reach across the aisle” for donations.


2 posted on 03/10/2013 2:44:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: Bratch
On issues like immigration and gun control, McCarthy said, he’d be open to taking rogue Republicans across the aisle to work with Democrats.

We know the so-called leadership are sell-outs on immigration, but what sort of gun control legislation do they plan to "work with Democrats" on?

I think Boehner and his gang are basically a bunch of cowards and backstabbers who want to get the illegal immigration issue out of the way so they won't have to deal with it year-after-year. To heck with what it means for the nation and elections of the future.

3 posted on 03/10/2013 2:48:15 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Bratch

Let them do this and it will be the final nail in the coffin of this so-called party. Especially on the gun control issue.


4 posted on 03/10/2013 2:48:32 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Bratch

The RINO-Dem Coalition is strong


5 posted on 03/10/2013 2:50:15 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Bratch
This is a declaration of war within the Republican ranks.

If the RINOs want a war with conservatives maybe it's time they got one.

6 posted on 03/10/2013 2:57:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bwaaaaaahahahaa!

I do exactly the same thing. These dummies don’t realize that I have caller ID.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 3:00:33 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Bratch

is there any doubt that we will have to defeat Repubicans before having a chance to defeat Rats?


8 posted on 03/10/2013 3:02:36 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: GeronL

But our “Force” is stronger than their “Farse”.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 3:04:50 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Bratch

I’ve said it before.

The GOP leadership is not with us. They are democrat lite. They think this makes them appear reasonable to people on both sides, when in reality neither side wants them. Plus they have no MSM friends to spin what they’re doing favorably.

To hell with the GOP leadership. Let them all burn with all the democrats.

They purge out the conservatives, have their little black lists. Dead. To. Me.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 3:05:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Bratch

The only way to get through to these lame-brains is to hit them hard in their home district.

I would suggest an advertising campaign to their constituents that essentially disavows them as Republicans, and says that they are betraying their home states as well as Republican ideals and their nation.

Done now, outside of election season, it will him them where they are not prepared to be hit.


11 posted on 03/10/2013 3:05:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: GeronL

It’s always been there, they are just finally publicly acknowledging it.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 3:05:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Bratch

House Republicans need to remove Boner immediately.

If he remains, we will have open war in the streets.


13 posted on 03/10/2013 3:09:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Bratch
Our brave "leaders" have managed to rape the military budget - hey why not just go all out and confiscate guns and let illegals into the nation uninhibited too.


14 posted on 03/10/2013 3:10:40 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Texas Fossil

we shall see, I sure hope so though


15 posted on 03/10/2013 3:12:12 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Bratch

I think they’re BLUFFING. They have to know that they will ELIMINATED from politics in less than 2 years if they try that stunt against the country.


16 posted on 03/10/2013 3:12:53 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Bratch
House GOP Leaders Democrat Front Leaders: We Can Pass Gun Control, Immigration, Without Republican Support
17 posted on 03/10/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Will88
I think Boehner and his gang are basically a bunch of cowards and backstabbers who want to get the illegal immigration issue out of the way so they won't have to deal with it year-after-year.

They aren't stupid and they aren't cowards. They WANT to give the illegal aliens citizenship. The want to dilute and neutralize the political power of conservatives so they don't have to deal with uppity Americans that demand liberty and prosperity year-after-year.

18 posted on 03/10/2013 3:20:30 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Just wanted to point out, again, that while the GOP is pulling this crap, there are plenty of freepers that will vote for them regardless and condemn/blame all the actual remaining conservatives that refuse to continuing empowering them.

Perhaps that should change.


19 posted on 03/10/2013 3:27:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BobL
"I think they’re BLUFFING. They have to know that they will ELIMINATED from politics in less than 2 years if they try that stunt against the country."

Do we have 2 years left?

20 posted on 03/10/2013 3:34:59 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

-— The want to dilute and neutralize the political power of conservatives so they don’t have to deal with uppity Americans that demand liberty and prosperity year-after-year. -—

I’ve come around late to this way of thinking.

Our last hope is with the Tea Party remnant.


21 posted on 03/10/2013 3:35:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Will88
"The rule was designed to limit amendments to the government funding bill, but some House conservatives, concerned over the Boehner team’s refusal to consider a floor vote on an amendment to defund Obamacare implementation, bucked Boehner on the rule.

........enough said.

22 posted on 03/10/2013 3:43:19 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: Bratch
I think Sapiro is stirring the pot.

Further down the article after some non committal answers from McCarthy Crowley says I guess I am not going to get an answer on that one.

Then the article acknowledges that :"Boehner has never explicitly endorsed the Hastert rule, but has said he would only bring bills to the floor that were backed by a “majority of the majority.”

23 posted on 03/10/2013 3:44:24 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: luv2ndamend

Repub “leaders”? These rino/sell-out/unprincipled tools are with the enemy (i.e., the LIBs of all types). They hate Conservatives and anyone with principles, morals and ethics. Leaders? Meh...


24 posted on 03/10/2013 3:47:00 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Bratch

It would probably take about 80-100 conservative GOP representatives to formally resign from the house Republican Caucus and form their own party/caucus in order to force Boehner out as Speaker, due to he no longer enjoying the majority of House support required to hold on to his Speakership.

With this many conservatives exiting the GOP house caucus, it will force a special House election for a new Speaker. This large number of defections will also provide insurance against any effort to get a dozen or two Democrats to be able to cross party lines and vote to keep Boehner on as Speaker.

Queen Nancy Pelosi may well end up as Speaker again, if only for a very brief time, until the GOP caucus defectors rejoin the rest of the GOP caucus to again form a House majority, but only after getting the rest of the GOP caucus to accept their conditions for return.

The conservative defectors from the GOP caucus can agree to return to the GOP caucus, but first force the remaining members of the GOP caucus to reject any of the current GOP leadership from assuming the Speakership and insist that the new Speaker bring back the Gingrich/Hastert rule that if any bill up for House Consideration does not enjoy the majority support from the GOP Caucus, then the bill will be pulled from the floor by the Speaker and not voted on.

The Speaker, on their own authority, can pull any bill from the floor of the House and block any vote on it. To override the Speaker and force a vote on any bill that they may pull, the House must come up with a super majority (two thirds majority) to override the Speaker and force a vote on any bill that the Speaker blocks from a House vote.


25 posted on 03/10/2013 3:48:50 PM PDT by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Bratch

Let’s leave the White Sox out of this
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It’s time to get government out of Our faces
Our religions and and Our pocketbooks


26 posted on 03/10/2013 3:52:02 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: hal ogen

Been that way for a while. They just can’t hide as good any more. Obummer care could of been gone a while ago but the azzhats in charge were looking for the same thing. Control over the people. Just happened to be with a few useful idiot rats to get the ax. They were the pawns in their sick little minds.
You think about it, the core group of “rulers” are still running the show. The problem is that they need a tar and feathering like in the past. They need to be completely embarrassed for what they do. These people are playing for keeps.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 3:56:12 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: Bratch

This isn’t just an ideological/policy problem, it’s a MAJOR strategic and tactical error.

The House GOP needs to be forcing the Dem Senate to produce legislation, hopefully causing fissures within the Dem caucus between Reid and his Progressives and the five or so Red State Dems up for reelection this year.

Up until now, it looked like Boehner/Cantor/et al were doing just that. Now, not so much.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 3:59:43 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: luv2ndamend

“Do we have 2 years left?”

Not if they join the Democrats. But they also don’t want to spend the rest of their lives as outsiders. The power of being in DC is addictive, that’s why I don’t think they’ll pull this crap...but I can be wrong.


29 posted on 03/10/2013 4:03:25 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: TigersEye
“If the RINOs want a war with conservatives maybe it's time they got one.”

I agree 100%! If the RINO’s want this fight , then by God lets get it on!!!!!!!!!!! 65 million firearms were purchased in the last year alone, the RINO’s want to work with liberal socialist to push through “gun control” legislation, which really means a “federal firearm registry data base” then lets identify these numnuts and move against them immediately! Nothing prevents the American people from recalling these pieces of shit!

Starting with McNasty and Goober Gramnesty!!! The Country cannot survive and the conservatives will not make headway until this fight is fought and won, moving the old guard out of the way, allowing the young conservatives, e.g. Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul to start reforming this out of control government!

Lets get it on my fellow Americans, these RINO’s need to put up or shut the hell up!!!

30 posted on 03/10/2013 4:09:25 PM PDT by paratrooper82 ( 82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN "Fury from the Sky" Civil war is coming)
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To: GeronL

They aren’t RINOs. This is what the Republican Party has become. That term is obsolete.

Call an ace an ace.


31 posted on 03/10/2013 4:15:09 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: vmivol00

Okay, then the Poop-Dem Coalition is strong


32 posted on 03/10/2013 4:22:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
They aren't stupid and they aren't cowards. They WANT to give the illegal aliens citizenship.

I disagree, I think they actually are afraid of the issue and are tired of the issue, so they buy into the fantasy that granting amnesty to millions of illegals will somehow be a plus for the Republican party. But it would be the biggest negative possible at this point, assuring millions of new Dim voters a few years from now.

They mostly want to be free of the issue, and they despise the conservatives who refuse to go along with their caving in to the Dims and others who support amnesty.

33 posted on 03/10/2013 4:26:33 PM PDT by Will88
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To: paratrooper82

Yep. I agree completely. It’s time to fight. The support will be there.


34 posted on 03/10/2013 4:28:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: BobL
If you think about what bills are past and what happens to the core group of rat and rat-light rulers over the past 20 years or so you will see that they are still there.From the last few elections we have learned how this works. The rulers of these party s are so entrenched that they can just about do anything against their own constituents and still get elected. If you look back to 94 when rat-lights had gained the house, the did so against a house speaker who was defeated not just as speaker but lost his seat in congress.

I am sure this is all calculated right down to the excuses. The leadership is playing like they are not that scared, why? Why would you be so blatantly against your constituents and your party's core beliefs if you didn't know what was ahead? It is like spending the banks money when the withdrawl is happening well after it becomes worthless.

35 posted on 03/10/2013 4:28:40 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: GeronL

Ha ha. I like that one. I also like Vichy-Republican.


36 posted on 03/10/2013 4:41:28 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: vmivol00

lol

Vichy Poop Republicans


37 posted on 03/10/2013 4:42:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: luv2ndamend

Yes, what I’ve been calling “The Central Committee”

And they all HAD to have, Extortion-Care, for immediate access to everyone elses paychecks, except their own “Exempt”.

And their so called “banks” “stress tests”, stress in like testing making sure they have immediate free and easy access to taxpayer money.


38 posted on 03/10/2013 4:52:16 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: BobL

I ‘think’ you’re right, but if you’re wrong, this spark will light a fire that can not be put out.

If on THIS SINGLE ISSUE they can not stand together, and stand with us in defense of our Constitution, perhaps our very lives, all doubt will be gone. They will have made themselves far more than a disappointment—they will have made themselves the enemy.

I am praying that you’re right.


39 posted on 03/10/2013 5:08:44 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Bratch

I am soooo mad right now I could SPIT!!

Sarah’s words were so spot on. It’s not enough to change the uniforms, we need to change the players. Clean the House takes on a whole new meaning. They hate us more than the Left that they would do harm to the country to maintain their hold on power? EFF that “ruling class”.


40 posted on 03/10/2013 5:23:25 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: dsm69

Those are some really tough odds and dire circumstances but I thank you for laying out the scenario. Primaries seem to be the only way to go.. Just wow. And if this isn’t done right, 0bama will succeed in destroying what’s left of the Republican Party. I don’t think we have the numbers just yet to get it right...at least not for a few years. Sickening..


41 posted on 03/10/2013 5:28:40 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Bratch
The call for gun control compromise with Democrats came from "House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)." California. In case you didn't see that, Republican--California.


42 posted on 03/10/2013 5:49:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Bratch

the reality of one party rule perhaps is finally dawning on rank and file republicans in leftist states like ohio. wake up and go independent. boehner needs to go, all of the republican leadership hailing from redistricted blue states needs to go. anyway possible.


43 posted on 03/10/2013 6:57:12 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

amend that last line. anyway *politically* possible, that is.


44 posted on 03/10/2013 7:08:21 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Bratch

Or just pass gas.


45 posted on 03/10/2013 7:10:35 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Bratch

America’s Democan and Republicrat royalty can’t abide any threat to their Imperial Rule, so they join hands against their constutuents and America in order to defend the palace walls in an egregious us vs. them gesture.


46 posted on 03/10/2013 9:54:02 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: headstamp 2
Let them do this and it will be the final nail in the coffin of this so-called party.

As if that wasn’t the plan all along.

The GOPe have been functioning as Demoncrats for years, about time We the People figured that out.

47 posted on 03/11/2013 12:34:06 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: dadfly
the reality of one party rule perhaps is finally dawning on rank and file republicans in leftist states like ohio.

Not yet, many are still supporting the Bushs and Romneycrats, on this forum.

Surely we have offended God and are now paying the price.

48 posted on 03/11/2013 12:44:08 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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