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Liberty from big soda (NY liberal nanny statism)
NY Daily News ^ | march 10, 2013 | marion nestle

Posted on 03/10/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by lowbridge

Barring any late legal surprises, Mayor Bloomberg's 16-ounce cap on sugary sodas goes into effect on Tuesday, March 12. After that, restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and food carts will not be permitted to sell extra-large portions of sugar-packed drinks.

Stay calm. This does not signal the end of democracy in America. This is not the nanny state gone out of control.

If we want Americans to be healthy, we are going to have to take actions like this - and many more - and do so soon

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So-called "nanny-state" measures - like bans on driving while drunk, smoking in public places and, now, selling absurdly large sugary drinks - help to level the playing field. Such measures are about giving everyone an equal opportunity to live a safer and healthier life.

At the moment, it is up to you to make healthier choices, but that's not easy in the face of relentless soda marketing. Governments have a responsibility to provide healthier environments for their citizens.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; ny; soda

1 posted on 03/10/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I’m a yankee but some times I just don’t understand yankees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZjCbRuZ3c


2 posted on 03/10/2013 1:08:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lowbridge
So if I walk away with 2 12 oz....That's better that 1 16 oz right???

Ridiculous....This is not government business.

3 posted on 03/10/2013 1:08:45 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lowbridge

Huge difference between driving drunk and drinking a bunch of soda, soda doesn’t impair your ability to drive.

Apologetic Nanny State article is obvious.....


4 posted on 03/10/2013 1:09:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: lowbridge

I’ve always been impressed that Bloomie understands NYers aren’t capable of making reasonable food choices. But I’m distressed that he feels they should be able to vote in federal elections.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 1:11:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: lowbridge


The author of this drivel...
6 posted on 03/10/2013 1:11:28 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: lowbridge

Translation: Minorities are like children and must be protected from themselves.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 1:13:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: lowbridge

“If we want Americans to be healthy...”

And, therein lies the fallacious foundation of this overreach by government. It is NOT THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT whether I want to be healthy.
Of course, the response from the left is that my health determines my health care costs, which affect everyone else.

I call BS on that one, too. The cost of healthcare in the US did not start its meteoric rise until the feds got their tentacles in the industry back in the 1950’s. I was there.
I remember going to the doctor’s office for his afternoon office hours. Sit in the waiting room with the others on queue. The doctor called us in, one after the other, took our two dollars, and did his work. We left with meds, instructions for care and appointment for follow-up visit (if necessary).
Then...the feds got involved... That spelled the advent of defensive medicine, over testing, and double digit price increases year after year. The deeper the feds got their teeth into the industry, the worse it got. And, we see no end in sight.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 1:15:33 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: lowbridge

“Governments have a responsibility to provide healthier environments for their citizens.”

Uh...no, they don’t.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 1:17:37 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: lowbridge


10 posted on 03/10/2013 1:17:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: lowbridge

Does Bloomberg really have the power to proclaim the foolish things he does?


11 posted on 03/10/2013 1:24:22 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: jimbo123

Marion Nestle is every bit the wannabe fascist tyrant that Hitler (actually) was and that Obama strives to be. The left in this country is truly unhinged in their deisre to subjugate and enslave their neighbors.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
- C. S. Lewis


12 posted on 03/10/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: jimbo123

So this woman is also an expert on pet nutrition? I remember seeing a film about what dogs really want to eat, which the stomach and entrails of another aninmal if I remember right.
I chuckle at the current pet food ads that assure us our dogs are starving for veggies, grains and blueberries.
Did she put Bloomie up to this or vice versa?


13 posted on 03/10/2013 1:26:34 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: lowbridge
"You may find this hard to believe, but the original Coca-Cola was 6.5 ounces, smaller than any size available today."

And it was marketed as a "tonic" -- complete with that wonderful pick-me-up cocaine.

"Fix the price differential. A 7.5-ounce can of soda costs twice as much per ounce as a two-liter bottle, and you can't buy just one; it comes in an 8-pack. Price determines sales. If a 16-ounce soda costs a dollar, a 32-ounce soda should cost two dollars."

Let me reword that: Completely ignore the economic realities involved. Penalize people for attempting to economize by buying their drinks in larger containers, and either sharing them, or storing the remainder in the fridge for another time. Don't concern yourself about all the extra packaging material smaller containers use. We'll just make containers illegal sometime in the near future.

The author of this article gives food NAZIs a bad name. Are you positive this isn't satire?
14 posted on 03/10/2013 1:30:00 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: lowbridge
I've come to the realization that anything written by marion nestle needs to be limited by law to no more than 12 words. Comparing the sugary drink ban to drunk driving laws may be the dumbest thing I've ever read. I mean we're talking "Sheila Jackson Lee- DUMB here!" Anything more and I find my brain cells dying. So in the name of public health, she needs to be banned from being able to write in public.

Mark

15 posted on 03/10/2013 1:46:26 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Wiser now
You reminded me of one of the funniest running gags in the cartoon show "The Goode Family". They fed the family dog ("Che", of course) nothing but vegetarian meals. No one seemed to connect the dog's diet with all the missing-pet flyers posted around the neighbourhood.



The cartoon was created by Mike Judge, who also created "King of the Hill". The Goode family was pretty much the opposite of Hank Hill, and the good ol' boys in the alley.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/58419/goode-family-the-complete-series-the/
16 posted on 03/10/2013 1:50:10 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: lowbridge
Bloomie freed us from big soda.

I had to laugh at "big soda."

17 posted on 03/10/2013 1:52:31 PM PDT by x
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To: lowbridge

This protest is designed to be printed up and passed around your precinct and your friends and neighbors as a (index sized) palmcard. On the face (REVERSE SIDE)or below the slogan you can put the name of the candidate you favor and the election dates...EXCELLENT FOR SLIPPING UNDER WINDSHIELD WIPERS ON CARS PARKED IN KEY PARKING LOTS CHURCHES, RALLY SITES....

DEMO-COMS AND RINO CRYERS
GOD DENIERS AND PREDACIOUS LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS/
FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
ISSUING DECREES OF MANY COME
DEMAND SURRENDERING CHOICES ONE BY ONE
INTO REGIMENTATION YOU MUST RUN
AND NOW THEIR ROBOT YOU’VE BECOME

It’s time to get government out of Our faces
Our religions and and Our pocketbooks


18 posted on 03/10/2013 1:58:06 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: lowbridge

So banning certain expressions and ideas is NOT an attack on Free Speech.

Banning guns is NOT an attack on right to bear arms.

And banning soda enhances our freedoms?

On some planet I guess this makes sense....


19 posted on 03/10/2013 2:12:31 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Sacajaweau
"So if I walk away with 2 12 oz....That's better that 1 16 oz right???"

Maybe it will turn out to be like underage beer purchase.

Person goes to store and buys 1 12-oz cola. Loiters in parking lot and waits for someone going toward the store and gives them, like $5, to buy another 12-oz cola to give to the first person.

Worked with underage beer procurement!

Now the guy has 24-oz of cola! HA!

20 posted on 03/10/2013 2:12:56 PM PDT by hummingbird
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To: Iron Munro

Heh heh heh, I love you guys.


21 posted on 03/10/2013 2:46:20 PM PDT by Epsdude
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To: lowbridge
Where's Captain America when we need him?
22 posted on 03/10/2013 3:01:35 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: lowbridge
At the moment, it is up to you to make healthier choices

Great. So give me a 20-ounce option and let me choose not to buy it.

23 posted on 03/10/2013 3:03:18 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: GraceG
So-called "nanny-state" measures - like bans on driving while drunk, smoking in public places

Bans on driving while incapacitated aren't nannystatism. These acts cause real torts, but surprisingly many drunks make it home night after night accident free. They're only discovered during police sobriety check points. This proves that at the times where there is no check point in place that number of intoxicated drivers are passing through unnoticed.

So that nanny-statism isn't really that effective in the first place and we know the source is liquor stores and bars which generate too much revenue to be directly targeted. Government loves sin taxes and we know how prohibition turned out.

The second point she makes in her straw man argument is even sillier since second hand smoke isn't the killer the left claimed it to be. She's using the epitomy of liberal logic - false facts coupled with loose correlations amounting to the phrase, "I'm an elite and I'm here to help [control your life]."

24 posted on 03/10/2013 3:40:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: PubliusMM

The focus must be on definitions. Make the government define “healthy”. They can’t because nobody is certain what that is. My friend works out everyday, runs marathons and just had a heart attack.

Was he healthy? Is he now?

If the world of medicine isn’t certain what healthy is how can politicians know?

Medicine right now can define sick and they get that wrong often enought. There exists no definition for healthy.

When a definition doesn’t exist they flock to that because their entire agenda is undefined unless you understand that the goal is power.


25 posted on 03/10/2013 3:45:13 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh lord, that is funny. Thanks.


26 posted on 03/10/2013 4:49:38 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Epsdude
Heh heh heh, I love you guys.

We're all on O'Bozo's Bitter Clinger Drone List already so we might as well have a little fun while we can.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 6:30:48 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: lowbridge
Ash hole opinions like this is why I haven't read the Daily Snooze in fifteen years. Equating drinking 17oz sodas with “drunk driving” is beyond moronic.
28 posted on 03/11/2013 5:57:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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