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FBI 'secretly spying' on Google users, company reveals
FoxNews.com ^ | March 6, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 03/09/2013 3:38:57 AM PST by Timber Rattler

The FBI used National Security Letters -- a form of surveillance that privacy watchdogs call “frightening and invasive” -- to surreptitiously seek information on Google users, the web giant has just revealed.

Google’s disclosure is “an unprecedented win for transparency,” privacy experts said Wednesday. But it’s just one small step forward.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
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To: Chickensoup

With Startpage you still have a Google search, which can be biased in the direction Google wants.

Instead use ixquick. https://ixquick.com/ It is the world’s most private search engine.

It works great. I have been using it for a decade now and would never trust Google to give me unbiased results.

Privacy is not enough. You also want results that are not twisted to support any particular entity.


41 posted on 03/09/2013 7:05:22 PM PST by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Don’t forget duckduckgo! It’s another “no tracking” alternative to Google.


42 posted on 03/09/2013 7:59:39 PM PST by Cato in PA (Land of the free and the home of the brave? Wrong on both counts.)
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To: Gen.Blather

The key question here is are the “search criteria” justified for legitimate national security purposes (and also well defined), and are those who get this information responsible and smart enough to properly evaluate it (and properly safeguard it from abuse).

As one who worked on an Organized Crime Task Force data project, and a terrorism prosecution, I have seen great FBI (and other govt security agencies) surveillance work - right on target for the case objectives. That was then, this is now.

I wouldn’t trust Att. Gen. Eric Holder to read my junk mail, nor most of his high level asskissing flunkies. What I’m worried about is whether FBI director Mueller has the balls to “say no” to Holder when he wants to go on his political witchhunts against conservatives.

I do not have much faith that this will happen. It is not the FBI that I knew and worked with in the past, and that included several Assistant Directors who I briefed or had as friends.

The biggest problem is what does the FBI have on Obama’s friends who are communists and/or supporters of foreign dictators, and whether this information is kept or has been destroyed.

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich) tried to destroy House Internal Security Committee files back in the 70’s, and Ted Kennedy tried it in the Senate for SISS files. Don’t think that the Left and now Jihadist sympathizers in Congress don’t want to destroy internal security information. They do, and they will try.

The question is whether Mueller can fight them off, esp. if Holder and company demand that they do so.

The same applies to military intell gathered in Iraq and Afghanistan. There has been at least one coverup of CBW materials captured in Iraq during the war because I know who found them and approximately where. Saddam was prepared for chemical warfare against American troops. Fortunately this never happened.

Intelligence is a very misunderstood field of warfare and counterwarfare/counter-subversion, etc. If done properly, it can make all the difference in the world as to whether you win or lose. Mishandled or bungled and you get 9/11 (FBI mid-level administrations fucked that one up good).

In the wrong political hands (anyone in the Obama administation), and it could have disasterous consequences against patriotic Americans.

That is what has to be guarded against. Rand Paul is looking better to me every minute that goes by. John McCain and Goober don’t. That, in itself, is an American tragedy.

The Obama regime is the “American tragedy” of all times.


43 posted on 03/09/2013 10:20:55 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Chickensoup

Startpage is just a thin wrapper over Google. I’m not contributing anything to Google.


44 posted on 03/10/2013 12:07:52 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: lbryce; Smokin' Joe; SunkenCiv
You know, IBM sold the Nazis a system in which to keep the trains to the concentration camps running efficiently. There was a book about it written in the 80’s and IBM admitted to it happening.

While your statement may be literally true, I believe it is highly misleading. The formalization of "the final solution" took place on 20 January 1942 at the Wannsee Conference, a month and a half after the United States entry into the war. While many Jews had been executed before that date, there was no systematic effort to eradicate the Jewish people until after that conference, and thus no need for train schedules to ship Jews to extermination camps which did not exist prior to that point in time.

I don't believe that IBM sold or would have been permitted to sell anything to Nazi Germany after they had declared war on the US.

It is certainly possible that IBM may have sold Germany such a system before we were at war with them, but that is far different from what you intimated with your comment.

45 posted on 03/10/2013 8:38:44 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: rmh47

IBM sold the system to Germany before the war, and it greatly facilitated the Holocaust because it made the big roundups a lot simpler. The prewar Jewish population in Germany was a fraction that of Poland’s, and the occupation of Poland was a necessity from the standpoint of carrying out the mass murders. Himmler said, “Polish Jewry is the genetic powerhouse of European Jewry.”


46 posted on 03/11/2013 4:23:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Nazi government used punch cards from IBM Hollerith machines that were supplied by IBM's German subsidiary. Here is the statement from IBM, which puts the matter is a somewhat different perspective, at least for me:

“It has been known for decades that the Nazis used Hollerith equipment and that IBM's German subsidiary during the 1930s — Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen GmbH (Dehomag) — supplied Hollerith equipment. As with hundreds of foreign-owned companies that did business in Germany at that time, Dehomag came under the control of Nazi authorities prior to and during World War II. It is also widely known that Thomas J. Watson, Sr., received and subsequently repudiated and returned a medal presented to him by the German government for his role in global economic relations.”

47 posted on 03/11/2013 8:57:18 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: helpfulresearcher

With Startpage you still have a Google search, which can be biased in the direction Google wants.

Instead use ixquick. https://ixquick.com/ It is the world’s most private search engine.

It works great. I have been using it for a decade now and would never trust Google to give me unbiased results.

Privacy is not enough. You also want results that are not twisted to support any particular entity.
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Both use Google. Look at both sites and I think you will find that Startpage is the proxy site. I may be wrong.


48 posted on 03/12/2013 5:17:29 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: helpfulresearcher
"With Startpage you still have a Google search, which can be biased in the direction Google wants. Instead use ixquick. https://ixquick.com/ It is the world’s most private search engine."

Interesting from Ixquick page:

"Ixquick was developed and launched in 1998 by David Bodnick in New York. In the year 2000, it was acquired by Surfboard Holding B.V, a privately held Dutch corporation whose only activities are operating Ixquick and Startpage."

49 posted on 03/12/2013 4:30:11 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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