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New O’Keefe Video: Cops Say ‘You’re On Your Own’ Without Gun
pj Media ^ | March 6th, 2013 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 03/08/2013 3:26:51 PM PST by NoGrayZone

James O’Keefe’s latest video shows the ugly truth: if you don’t own a gun, you are on your own. In the video, he goes into police stations (predominately in the anti-gun Northeast) and collects a shocking harvest of responses from officers about how the police have no ability to protect them.

Traffic and time prevent effective responses to 911 calls. O’Keefe’s undercover protagonist pushes the issue, “well, how am I supposed to protect my family if I don’t have a gun?”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; guncontrol; guns; police; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/08/2013 3:26:51 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

bm


2 posted on 03/08/2013 3:35:37 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: NoGrayZone

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away!


3 posted on 03/08/2013 3:37:40 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: airborne

That is IF they can even get there, as the video suggested!


4 posted on 03/08/2013 3:39:40 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
New O’Keefe Video: Cops Say ‘You’re On Your Own’ Without Gun

So...get a gun. What's to not understand? Get a gun...learn how to use it. No big deal. Legal or not...just do it. Argue with the knuckleheads later...if necessary. At least you will be around to do it.

5 posted on 03/08/2013 3:39:46 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: GoldenPup

What exactly is your dysfunction? Next time, don’t be so uppity.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 3:41:41 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Where I live, the only police are the State Police, and they don't want to come back in the hills where I live unless they really have to. And then it's guaranteed to be a wait.
7 posted on 03/08/2013 3:46:22 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: airborne

And I’m sure it’s a very long wait as well.


8 posted on 03/08/2013 3:47:27 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: GoldenPup
Legal or not...?

They would be delighted for one to commit a felony thereby ensuring a lifetime gun-free.
9 posted on 03/08/2013 3:47:50 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: jobim

Yay a NGZ thread! :D


10 posted on 03/08/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: NoGrayZone; All
This thread needs this important sidenote imo. One court has already decided, and I agree, that there is no constitutional right (my term) to police services.
Warren v. District of Columbia

The 2nd Amendment arguably clarifies that citizens their own police force.

Critiques welcome.

11 posted on 03/08/2013 4:10:17 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: NoGrayZone
The fat cops sitting behind their desks munching donuts don't seem too worried about what you can until they get there - as long as you don't do it with a gun.

Why should they? After all, they get paid for drawing chalk lines, stringing yellow tape, taking reports, testifying in court, putting in their shifts, and (who knows?) maybe eventually even "solving" your crime - or maybe not... probably not. They don't get paid to protect you. They aren't even required to respond to your pleas for help.

If you want protection and aren't allowed to carry or possess a gun, hire a body guard service. That's what your politicians do - except they pay for them with YOUR tax money.

Sweet deal if you can get it.

12 posted on 03/08/2013 4:25:51 PM PST by Gritty (Necessity is the plea for every infringement of freedom; it is the argument of tyrants-PM Wm Pitt)
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To: NoGrayZone

Those in Ny and other places should not move south, we should drive Fidel Cuomo and his ilk underground.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 4:30:16 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Call the Police and report your house on fire.

Response time is a lot quicker, the Fire Department doesn’t wait for backup and they don’t shoot your dog.


14 posted on 03/08/2013 4:42:44 PM PST by Venturer
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Bookmarking


15 posted on 03/08/2013 4:46:47 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Gritty

“The fat cops sitting behind their desks munching donuts -—”

How original !!!!!!!

Surely you can come up with something better than that.

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16 posted on 03/08/2013 4:53:13 PM PST by Mears
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To: Amendment10

You are correct. At the time of the Founding there weren’t organized police forces as we know them today. They evolved from the old constable/sheriff system in the 19th Century. So, an Originalist would say there is no constitutional right to police protection.


17 posted on 03/08/2013 5:12:09 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: NoGrayZone

Yeah, and just TRY to strike up a conversation with a police officer while you’re wearing or carrying a gun.

Unless you meet him at a shooting range, or you know the cop personally, you will usually not enjoy the encounter. Cops treat armed civilians as suspects first, citizens second.

(Pardon my broad generalizations but I find police to be exceedingly rude when it comes to armed civilians, even though they need our help more than they’re willing to admit.)


18 posted on 03/08/2013 6:47:24 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Didn’t need an undercover video. I’d have told you that straight up and in fact, did


19 posted on 03/08/2013 7:03:22 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Mears
The fat cops sitting behind their desks munching donuts -—” —

How original !!!!!!!

Surely you can come up with something better than that.

Did you actually look at those fat cops? My guess is most of them would drop dead of heart attacks if they had to chase a perp 50 yards.

They are fat, slovenly, indifferent. Yes. They are typical donut munchers! Time servers, clock punchers, basically useless.

20 posted on 03/08/2013 7:54:48 PM PST by Gritty (Necessity is the plea for every infringement of freedom; it is the argument of tyrants-PM Wm Pitt)
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To: Mears

“The fat cops sitting behind their desks munching donuts -—”

Ok, OK, Fat cops sitting in their Crown Vics, munching dognuts!
Now, does that make it better?


21 posted on 03/08/2013 8:44:46 PM PST by vette6387
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To: SargeK

Yes, you did, this one did, that one did. These videos are for the mass.

Other people lurk here, and not just conservatives. It’s all a part of the new media.

Spread the info far and wide.


22 posted on 03/09/2013 2:55:26 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Lol!!!! =)


23 posted on 03/09/2013 2:55:51 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Venturer

Actually, that’s a great idea. However, I wonder if it’s illegal, like screaming FIRE in a movie theater.


24 posted on 03/09/2013 3:01:02 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DNME

The girl cops are the worst of them, for anything! I have no idea what they are trying to prove but they are rude and unseemly.

Fine, I only had 1 instance with a girl cop (my brake light was out). She gave me the ticket. I had the usual 1 business day to fix it, go to the station, show it was fixed, get the paper work filled out and send it in, which I did (the cop at the desk waved a “nah” hand at me when I asked him to check out my fixed brake light).

I had some kind of breach in my brake light cover which would short out my brake light. I was pulled over before for the same thing, and the 2 guy cops were very nice about it, let me go (I promised to get it fixed right then and there, or the next day, when my mechanic was open).

They did warn me that they patrol the area so don’t let them see me w/ out a brake light or I would get a ticket.

Of course I got it fixed asap. It’s no fun being pulled over by the fuzz!


25 posted on 03/09/2013 3:15:45 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Gritty; Mears

The one thing I didn’t understand is the black lady cop. She said she applied for hers and it took about 3 months, if my memory serves me correct.

However, shouldn’t she already be carrying a handgun? She’s already armed. Then she starts talking about getting bleach, ammonia, etc.

I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t keep those things in my bedroom, if that is where I was “trapped”.


26 posted on 03/09/2013 3:19:55 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DNME

We’re not allowed to do that here, lol. Nanny says so.


27 posted on 03/09/2013 3:20:43 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I am sure it isn’t legal, but if it saves your life it’s worth it.


28 posted on 03/09/2013 3:22:37 AM PST by Venturer
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To: NoGrayZone

Goldenpup didn’t sound uppity to me, sounded very logical as a matter of fact.


29 posted on 03/09/2013 5:07:32 AM PST by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: Venturer

True.


30 posted on 03/09/2013 8:07:57 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

“I don’t keep those things in my bedroom, if that is where I was “trapped”.”

Right now I have something that was mysteriously lost in a tragic boating accident, my choice of clubs, (I recommend the 5 iron), a screwdriver, both bleach and ammonia.

They all just recently came in handy and the perp is in jail. End result - cracked a toenail. :)


31 posted on 03/09/2013 10:33:37 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Damn those boating accidents! Sorry to hear about your toenail though.

I pray for your quick recovery! =)


32 posted on 03/09/2013 11:55:37 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Pray for the other dude. He’s the one who will need it. Now I have to try to fix the damn door he busted.


33 posted on 03/09/2013 12:28:21 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Nah, I’d rather he suffer (sorry God). Busted door, not good.


34 posted on 03/09/2013 12:34:22 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

You mean you don’t have sympathy for the punk? What are you some kind of conservative? ;)


35 posted on 03/09/2013 12:38:38 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Fine, you found me out! I admit, I am a....a.....ugh I don’t think I can(NGZ you can do it!!!).

Yes, I NoGrayZone am a...a...Conservative! There, I said it! You happy now?

The horror! ;)


36 posted on 03/09/2013 12:42:34 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

For shame. Now you’ll have to say an hour of ‘Praise Chavez’ to atone for your sins.


37 posted on 03/09/2013 12:47:22 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: NoGrayZone

This was on Sixty Minutes, right?


38 posted on 03/09/2013 12:54:23 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

But of course!


39 posted on 03/09/2013 1:14:36 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Vision

Police have no mandate to “protect” anyone. They exist to detain and/or arrest perps during or after a crime.


40 posted on 03/09/2013 1:21:48 PM PST by tweakDU (Romney Ryan 2012 Vote!)
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