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Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read
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Posted on 03/07/2013 3:11:25 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: elkfersupper

“I had enough curiosity to teach myself how to read before I got to the 1st grade.

What is wrong with people?”

It’s called the Bell Curve.


51 posted on 03/07/2013 4:22:13 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: ilovesarah2012

If Bloomturd had thousands of children, this would be “them”.

No “Reading, Written or Arithmetic”, kids! But especially, no 17 ounce Coke.

They reason these kids can’t read is because of COKE, and it ain’t the soda kind, Bloomturd.


52 posted on 03/07/2013 4:27:01 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Wanderer99
It’s called the Bell Curve.

A traditional Bell Curve would dictate that most people could read.

There would be a small segment that either could not read or could not read well, followed by a large segment that could read, followed by a small segment that was able to read exceptionally well.

53 posted on 03/07/2013 4:29:02 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SMGFan

Dont worry Nanny Bloomy will read to them. Liberals just keeping liberals dumb.


54 posted on 03/07/2013 4:30:36 PM PST by bikerman ("A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don't have it you wont need one again.)
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To: Pharmboy

What the hell do teacher pensions have to do with this? Are you always such a dumb@ss, or did you practice up before posting this? Teachers have to teach the curriculum they are given, they cannot deviate from it. How about PARENTS reading with their children or teaching them something besides how to operate a TV set?


55 posted on 03/07/2013 4:31:06 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SMGFan

But I bet they can recite demoCrap propaganda with complete fluency.


56 posted on 03/07/2013 4:32:28 PM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: deport
According to the chart on page 5, 14.3% of the total students are White, apparently not hispanic, yet according to a census report for 2011 for NYC White non- hispanic, is 58%....where have all the childern gone?
57 posted on 03/07/2013 4:34:35 PM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Track9

If true...then why are the “educators” giving them a diploma? Insanity from the nutty “educators”.


58 posted on 03/07/2013 4:36:48 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Marie
I have mixed feelings about phonetics. I was educated by the nuns in the early ‘50, and, for some reason, they did not teach it. Instead, we learned to read “by sight”, that is, we were taught to recognize each word without analyzing it phonetically. To this day, I still remember the very first word we learned, “look”. See, the nun said, as she wrote it out on the blackboard, it has two eyes. The advantage was we mastered reading very quickly; the disadvantage was I have always had difficulty spelling.
59 posted on 03/07/2013 4:41:38 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: BilLies

Maybe private/home schools.... Interesting point you bring up.


60 posted on 03/07/2013 4:42:45 PM PST by deport
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To: hal ogen

That’s a rhetorical question I presume. If you have any doubt, just recall the teacher organized mass cheating on competency tests in Atlanta a few years back.


61 posted on 03/07/2013 4:43:03 PM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: SMGFan

“80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read”

Of the 20% that can read, what % are white or asian?


62 posted on 03/07/2013 4:48:05 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: PUGACHEV

I was taught phonics as a child, but I forgot most of what I’d learned over the years. As an adult, when I began homeschooling my own children, I relearned phonics and my own spelling, grammar and reading improved.

Go back, young man! Go through first grade phonics again. It’ll take you 30 minutes a day for a few months to see it again. Your world will open up.

Use Saxon. You’ll be amazed at how much sense there is in the English language.


63 posted on 03/07/2013 4:48:05 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: SMGFan

As of 2012, the NYC school district spent $18,750 per student. In a class of 30 students, the total take is $562,500. What happens to all that money? It certainly isn’t producing much in the way of education, but the free baby-sitting and free food does come in handy.


64 posted on 03/07/2013 4:51:58 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: SMGFan

New York is thinking about a longer school day and a longer school year. Yeah, like that’s going to do a lot of good.


65 posted on 03/07/2013 4:52:22 PM PST by goldi
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To: BilLies

You have pointed out a huge disconnect in the stats.

I understand most children born are non-white, but it’s still perplexing.


66 posted on 03/07/2013 4:53:02 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Marie

However, AVOID Saxon Math. It is merely rote learning - no THINKING involved. I cannot tell you how many parents say to me, “My child has ALWAYS made A’s in Math.” These students can apply the algorithms, but they cannot apply that knowledge to solve real-life problems.


67 posted on 03/07/2013 4:53:15 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: SMGFan

Public schools are perpetrating intellectual genocide.


68 posted on 03/07/2013 4:54:23 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: hal ogen
You would not believe the pressure put on teachers to pass students who really should not pass. It can range from a "friendly word" from an administrator to a letter in your file. If your passing rate is too low, because the students are excessively absent, just don't do any work despite chats, letters home, etc., you are often targeted for harassment. You have been pulling out all the stops, staying up late nights to try and design great lessons, tutoring kids on your free periods, etc. but guess what? Very very few kids show up for tutoring sessions, generally. They often don't turn in projects. They openly admit they don't study for tests. They make the same studying mistakes over and over again, despite your telling them correct practices. They spend more time during class trying to sneak texts on their cell phones than paying attention to the lesson and asking intelligent questions.

The new "Bloomberg-bred" student knows that they basically don't have to do anything, and their teacher will be pressured to pass them. And if they DO receive their just grade, they openly threaten the teacher ("I'm a gonna get you fired, b__tch!") rather than amend their academic practices. Oh, HELL no!

They don't BELONG in college, clogging up the classrooms there and taking remedial courses which simply repeat their failed high school work at a much higher cost to the taxpayers.

69 posted on 03/07/2013 4:54:35 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SMGFan
Cannot read at a 12th-grade level? I'd believe it.

Cannot read? 80%? No. Simply not the case.

There's a definite point to be made and concerns to be addressed, but that headline is misleading, dishonest or just bogus. Pick one. But only if you read this far.

70 posted on 03/07/2013 4:57:33 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: txrefugee
"As of 2012, the NYC school district spent $18,750 per student. In a class of 30 students, the total take is $562,500. What happens to all that money? It certainly isn’t producing much in the way of education, but the free baby-sitting and free food does come in handy."

I have an idea where the money ends up.

Recently my local news did a segment on some kind of consultant who was making the rounds of all the schools, to talk to teachers and find out what issues they had concerns with. He said the number one concern was EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, followed by supplies.

It's all about the children, see. /s

71 posted on 03/07/2013 4:58:24 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: SMGFan

Education was where Bloomturd wanted to make a difference!


72 posted on 03/07/2013 5:01:57 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Remember when you had to be smart to get into college, even a community college?

That was before colleges became teacher-employment programs. Now, we have to get as many kids as we can in there so more "professors" can have jobs. Helps the economy, don'cha know [wink, wink].

73 posted on 03/07/2013 5:04:42 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: SMGFan
Report: "Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read"

Response: One glance explains why.

74 posted on 03/07/2013 5:04:49 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Marie

I was taught phonics a child and to this day I hear the word when I look at it.
Worse, I have gotten so old that I can’t remember what it was like to not be able to read...


75 posted on 03/07/2013 5:05:28 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: SMGFan

Libs want to keep them dumb as possible so they will keep x-ing the rat box every November.


76 posted on 03/07/2013 5:08:29 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: BfloGuy

Actually the reason for having lots of high paid profs and admins is because they are excellent Democrat contributors.

Funneling borrowed money to them from student loans is what I call the “Big Education” cycle.


77 posted on 03/07/2013 5:10:00 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Talisker

Where else they could get low information voters?


78 posted on 03/07/2013 5:10:22 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: SMGFan

What’s reading have to do with public schools?


79 posted on 03/07/2013 5:16:06 PM PST by mykroar (Sig is pending a Conservative party.)
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To: lyby

Are you kidding?? My son can do algebra and trig in his head thanks to Saxon math. His college profs are stunned by his mathematical abilities thanks to Saxon. (No thanks to me, the homeschool teacher who can’t calculate her way out of a paper bag...)

Saxon teaches you the *how* and the *why* of math. Yes, you have to practice, but that’s the way it is with all math.


81 posted on 03/07/2013 5:24:18 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: lyby

Oh, and my son is a machinist. He thinks in four dimensions and calculate every aspect of the process.

Thanks to Saxon.


82 posted on 03/07/2013 5:26:23 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: SMGFan

Kinda makes you wonder why newspapers are in trouble...


83 posted on 03/07/2013 5:27:19 PM PST by Gertie
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To: GeronL

Report me to the mods if you are so convinced.


88 posted on 03/07/2013 5:58:06 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: SMGFan

This is a disaster. 1/2 of Public school students, virtually all non-white fail to graduate. Roughly 13% of all public, private and parochial students who enter school graduate and are competent in an 8th grade level or above.


89 posted on 03/07/2013 6:00:21 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: GeronL
It’s about NYC schools, I was just pointing out something the schools ARE teaching since they apparently do not teach reading.

Title of the thread: Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read

Thread is about reading in NYC school not about sex. LEARN A NEW SONG.

90 posted on 03/07/2013 6:01:47 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

Now you are being ridiculous.

You are way too defensive when people attack perverts on this thread.


91 posted on 03/07/2013 6:06:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: verga

Now you are being ridiculous.

You are way too defensive when people attack perverts on this forum.


92 posted on 03/07/2013 6:06:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Elsiejay
I and my three children were proficient readers at least a year prior to enrolling in grade one. We are not necessarily a whole lot smarter than the average, but just possibly being nurtured in a family environment was helpful. Government interventions, however well intentioned, are not adequate substitutes.

Amen. My parents and grandparents encouraged me to read, and they said I was doing so by age three. I doubt I could comprehend much of what I was reading at that time, but once that process started...what a wonderful world opened up for me. They bought me truckloads of comics and books. Every week we would visit my grandmother and she'd ask if I had finished the last Hardy Boys book she'd given me...when I said 'yes' she would disappear and then reappear with the next volume. They are here in my study (and were part of the inspiration for my FR name).

Parents (and grandparents) are the key. You gave them such a gift by encouraging them.
93 posted on 03/07/2013 6:08:04 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Wait a second -- according to Secretary of State John Kerry, aren't they going to be stuck in Iraq?
...need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system.
Someone will be calling them at home, since it's pointless to send them a letter of rejection.

Thanks SMGFan.


94 posted on 03/07/2013 6:10:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: elkfersupper

Except that in NY schools, where 80% cannot read, the bell curve is the line that forms after they HEAR the recess bell. /s


95 posted on 03/07/2013 6:21:42 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: GeronL; shag377; SoftballMominVA; Gabz
You are way too defensive when people attack perverts on this forum.

Just so I understand, you believe that 100% of all public school teachers are perverts. Is that correct?

96 posted on 03/07/2013 6:31:19 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: SMGFan

So much for the vaunted Regents’ Exam.


97 posted on 03/07/2013 6:32:16 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: verga

You aren’t even worth talking to.


98 posted on 03/07/2013 6:35:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Marie; PUGACHEV
My twins were afflicted with the whole word method of reading their first year of school. The abstract thinker did fine, but the logical one just couldn't 'catch on' to reading.

I was taught with phonics waaaay back when, and although I'm not quite old enough to have used these in a schoolroom, the McGuffey Readers from the late 1800 are what we used the help her out.

They're actually free for Kindle on Amazon - McGuffey's First Eclectic Reader

99 posted on 03/07/2013 6:37:01 PM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: BilLies
.where have all the childern gone?

Private school? We have similar issues in Milwaukee. It's mandated that teachers, firefighters and city workers live in the city but they do NOT send their kids to Milwaukee Public Schools.

100 posted on 03/07/2013 6:45:26 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Where the heck are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket???)
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