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Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read
CBS NY ^

Posted on 03/07/2013 3:11:25 PM PST by SMGFan

It’s an education bombshell.

Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system.

The number of kids behind the 8-ball is the highest in years, CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer reported Thursday.

When they graduated from city high schools, students in a special remedial program at the Borough of Manhattan Community College couldn’t make the grade.

They had to re-learn basic skills — reading, writing and math — first before they could begin college courses.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arth; highschoolgrads; illiteracy; literacy; newyork; ny; readingskills
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To: SMGFan
Screw the kiddies!......"look for the union label commercial".......
121 posted on 03/08/2013 4:11:26 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: SMGFan

On the plus side, 20% can read.

My two daughters learned to read in 10 hours, at four years of age, using phonics. 15 minutes per day, for a month. They then began reading Dr. Suess on their own.

This is slightly below the average for homeschoolers.

The government schools can go to hell, from whence they came.

Read about it below for free.

http://johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm


122 posted on 03/08/2013 4:48:34 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: SMGFan

I am not suprised.
No Child Left Behind has led to massive cheating on the standardized tests, and poorer education.


123 posted on 03/08/2013 5:02:27 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: petitfour

The school administrators will tell teachers to do the tests for the kids. Or they will change the answers before turning them in.

My bride got pressured, once, to do so. She asked for it in writing, and said that she will turn it in to the paper. We aren’t from here, and don’t care if we have to move.


124 posted on 03/08/2013 5:11:28 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: EinNYC
You spout so much garbage and outright lies, there is only ONE person you can actually be: Welcome to Free Republic, Ms. Randi Weingarten (yep--that's where the EIN comes from). Well, I hope you're proud of yourself for almost single-handedly RUINING the lives a two generations of inner city kids.

But the pension plans for all your followers are doing well, I understand.

Now you can go back to moveon.org and DU where others of your stripe appreciate you...we do not, you obnoxious, over the hill jackal who has stolen the future from so many children.

And I mean that in a good way. You can have the last word.

125 posted on 03/08/2013 5:59:00 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: SMGFan; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

126 posted on 03/08/2013 6:08:15 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Elsiejay
We are not necessarily a whole lot smarter than the average, but just possibly being nurtured in a family environment was helpful.

Not *just possibly* and *helpful*, but *absolutely essential* and *critical*.

It known that parental involvement with their children at a young age, especially 18-26 months, is absolutely essential and critical to a child's mental development and will determine whether they succeed in becoming literate or not.

I'll guess you didn't talk baby talk to them either.

127 posted on 03/08/2013 6:16:23 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: elkfersupper
I had enough curiosity to teach myself how to read before I got to the 1st grade.

I wrote two books before I left my mother's womb.

"L: )

128 posted on 03/08/2013 6:18:31 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: PUGACHEV; Marie

Phonics is the BEST way to learn to read.

If you’ve ever watched the National Spelling Bee, you’ll see the kids using phonics and the language of origin to try to determine how to spell a word.

If you simply do memorization, you are dependent on memorizing every single word you know and if you don’t, you don’t have a clue how to pronounce it. Nor can you sound it out to have any idea how to spell it correctly.

With phonics, you simply sound out the word, knowing what sound each letter makes. It can be learned in less than 2 years in a school setting, at the first and second grade level. I know because we used Ron & Staff Phonics for our kids when we homeschooled them and it as for first and second grade and they learned it all.

And all are excellent spellers.


129 posted on 03/08/2013 6:25:02 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: lyby
However, AVOID Saxon Math

I'd disagree with you. Used Saxon Math from my 4th grade year up until I went into calculus in college, loved it. No problem applying to real-world problems. Many many homeschoolers love Saxon for the mastery of basic concepts.

130 posted on 03/08/2013 6:43:16 AM PST by JenB
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To: Pharmboy
Hey, mama's--oops,I mean Pharm-boy--same thing--a whole teachers' lounge of real teachers wants to thank you. Jeez, we almost spewed our coffee over our homework papers to grade when I read your reply aloud. You are an amazing idiot. Ever think of letting Guinness exhibit you?

I am not Randi Weingarten. She's not too popular around here, having signed off on a horrid contract and a bunch of things deleterious to student learning.

We want to know how many hours you spent memorizing your tired, oh-so-tired rhetoric which originated in the minds of others, but which you parrot. That's all you are obviously capable of, not an original thought in what passes for a mind under your pathetic pate.

I am, BTW, a conservative teacher who holds out for high standards, both academic and moral, in the classroom. Unlike you, I write my own lines and could care less if many people around me follow the liberal line. I know what's right, and I know who's put his foot in it. I think I hear your mother calling. Make sure you clean up the slob den around your computer chair before you go upstairs, 'kay?

131 posted on 03/08/2013 6:55:31 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: metmom

I love articles like this!

As homeschooling parents, they help reassure us in times of doubt that we can’t do any worse than the schools!

Cheers!


132 posted on 03/08/2013 7:34:09 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: EinNYC

Thanks for confirming for me that homeschooling my own kid is the right choice.


133 posted on 03/08/2013 8:11:21 AM PST by JenB
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
They reason these kids can’t read is because of COKE, and it ain’t the soda kind, Bloomturd.

Research indicates that about 1% of 18-to-20-year-olds use cocaine once or more a month. (http://www.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH/2k10ResultsTables/NSDUHTables2010R/HTM/Sect1peTabs1to46.htm#Tab1.5B)

134 posted on 03/08/2013 9:13:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: DoctorBulldog

No kidding.

For all the government school people who think kids are better off in school than not, actually, the kids wouldn’t be any less educated not in school.

Failure rates like this demonstrate the failure of public education.

The only kids who do well in public schools are the ones with parental involvement, meaning the parents are unofficially and informally homeschooling their on their own time and dime.

The real fruit of the public education system is found in those kids who depend on is solely for their education and so far, it has been nothing but a miserable failure, as evidenced by articles like this.


135 posted on 03/08/2013 9:15:41 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: verga

The seemingly self appointed policeman status.


136 posted on 03/08/2013 10:13:04 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (One "bitter clinger" praying for revival. <BCC><)
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To: BilLies
According to the chart on page 5, 14.3% of the total students are White, apparently not hispanic, yet according to a census report for 2011 for NYC White non- hispanic, is 58%....where have all the childern gone?
Religious schools (Catholic and Jewish) and Private Schools educate many. There are only a few good public schools in the city. Also, many of the whites are young and unmarried. They move to the suburbs when they have kids. The 500-800 thousand dollar one bedroom apartment in Manhattan becomes a nice home or downpayment in the suburbs.
137 posted on 03/08/2013 11:47:55 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SMGFan
80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read

Yet they CAN vote.
138 posted on 03/08/2013 11:48:06 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: metmom
"Phonics is the BEST way to learn to read."

Phonics is certainly the best way to learn to spell, but I am not sure it is the best way to learn reading. By teaching us to read at sight, one nun had over 120 children in my first grade class reading by the end of the year -- well, that and her fearsome hicory yardstick. I've always been a good reader, and found myself far ahead of neghborhood friends who learned phonetics in public school. Throughout my school years, reading and comprhension were my strongest assets, and I've earned a good living since being able to pick apart the rather dense prose of the Bankruptcy and the Tax Codes. I must admit, however, spelling is a different matter. In this area my skills are not so much, and I blame lack of phonetics for that.

Oddly, when I learned Spanish as an adult, first as a small child might from imersion, and later in an academic setting, I was taught Phonics in Espanol. I noticed the same trade off, slower reading development, but a stronger grasp of spelling.

139 posted on 03/08/2013 12:45:30 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

When a person can sound out an unfamiliar word with the tools phonics provides, he doesn’t have to try to guess how to pronounce it nor guess the meaning of the word by context.

From my experience, not having been taught phonics myself in school, and having my kids learn it from homeschooling, and as a result learning it myself, its benefits FAAARRRR outweigh any perceived drawbacks.

While the speed of learning to read may be (may)initial be a bit faster with the sight reading method, after a certain point, it will even out and the other benefits of the phonics teaching will kick in.

Likely a nun with a hickory yardstick was more incentive to learn to read than the teaching method. It would be interesting to compare results with that motivator removed from the equation.


140 posted on 03/08/2013 12:54:14 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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