Posted on 03/06/2013 11:26:26 AM PST by EXCH54FE
Hudson County, New Jersey --(Ammoland.com) At approximately 10pm on Thursday night, January 24, 2013, 33-year-old Keith Pantaleon of Jersey City, New Jersey, was in the bedroom of his apartment watching television after a full day’s work – when he heard thumping noises coming from his living room.
Believing that his residence may be being broken into, he grabbed his soft-bound Day Planner case (which also held a lawfully purchased handgun), and cracked open his bedroom door to investigate.
In the center of his living room, he saw a man dressed entirely in dark clothing who had his back towards him. He cracked open his door slightly further and saw near the entrance to his apartment a police officer, his landlord, and an EMT worker.
When the man dressed in dark clothing in the middle of his living room turned around, he saw it was another police officer.
One of the officers immediately ordered Pantaleon to come out of his bedroom. Pantaleon tossed his unopened Day Planner case onto his bed. As he went to close his bedroom door behind him, one of the officers pushed him into his living room. The officer then ordered Pantaleon to face a corner of his living room and handcuffed him. One of the officers allegedly threatened Pantaleon that if he had pulled out a firearm, he would have shot him. Officers asked if Pantaleon owned any firearms. To which, he did not reply.
As one of the officers watched Pantaleon (who remained in custody in Pantaleon’s living room), the other officer warrantlessly searched Pantaleon’s bedroom – which including opening cabinets and his Day Planner case – then demanded that Pantaleon provide the PIN# combination to his safe, which the officer proceeded to open and search.
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Evan Nappen is the best. He will win the case.
That’s right. Be careful about what you tell your liberal ‘friends’.
We have been turned into a socialist state where loyalty to the ‘party’ is all-important and turning neighbors in for crimes against the state are encouraged.
Soon, you will have to read your bible in private or risk arrest.
So, I have some pertinent questions:
- If the police break into my house with no cause, can I shoot them?
- If the make-believe police or criminals break into my house, can I shoot them? The point is, how am I supposed to know the difference?
- If the police start shooting at me for no reason as I drive down the street, can I shoot back?
- If the make-believe police or criminals start shooting at me as I drive sown the street, can I shoot back? Again, the point is, how am I supposed to know the difference?
A true story: As I and four passengers were driving down a street in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, a car in front of us stopped (we were on a ramp, so there was no room to get around them) and two armed guys got out. One stayed in front of our car while the other came to driver’s side window and asked to see our passports and car registration. It seemed a bit funny, because the guy in the front kept talking on his cell phone. We showed our documents - the guy gave them back, and they got back in their car and drove away.
Upon telling our in-country hosts about this, they said that, first of all, the men were not police - all police wear uniforms. What they surmised was that the guy in front was talking with a lookout up the road, watching for the real police. They suspected that the guys intended to shoot the driver and steal the vehicle, but, since there were five people in the car, did not want to take that big a risk.
So, in this country, where there are car jackings everyday and we do have plain-clothes police and criminals who dress like the police, how are we, law-abiding citizens, supposed to react in such situations??? If you will recall, two women in CA were shot at by police because their vehicle looked that of wanted murderer Chris Dorner.
If you don’t know it’s a cop and he’s in your house without a warrant, yes, yes you can legally shoot him. But, you better be darn sure you have plenty of outstanding witnesses.
Cheers!
http://www.njsp.org/about/fire_hollow.html
About eight paragraphs which if you read it and can understand it let me know what it says, I live here but hopefully not much longer, Thanks
The following video is what we have to put up with!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fC2iu3CTPc&feature=player_embedded
What a crock of mindless bullsquat. Why does anyone visit NJ let alone live there?
New Jersey is unAmerican.
Per your tagline - I’ve heard of walking on coals but never snoozing on them.
The wind doesn’t blow in America, New Jersey sucks!
Just ignore it. The mods would pull it if it was a bad post.
We’ve got ‘blog pimp’ police here that are much more annoying than the grammar police. ANYTHING posted from a blog is snipped at.
I don’t even get what that deal is, even if someone is posting from their blog. It makes no difference to me if it’s a good article. The best articles come from places other than the MSM.
KEEP POSTING and ignore the jealous idiots.
I'm not familiar with the details of NJ Tenant Landlord law, but as a general rule, renters have what is called a "right to quiet enjoyment." In theory, a landlord could be found guilty of trespassing on his own property, and a renter has, up to a point, the right to permit or deny access to the leased premises. The lease would clearly outline the terms and conditions under which a landlord could enter without the tenant's permission (typically under emergency circumstances) and under which the landlord might grant access to the leased property to others.
Okay, there's the pretext for entry. Then one says he things the resident has a gun, giving the cop probable cause to enter-- and the door was already open anyway. Add to this a DA who is looking for advancement and you've got this abomination.
Yep. It’s clearly a fishing expedition and subterfuge, but given the terms of the lease, the thugs may have some wiggle room.
That is my intent, FR is still the GREATEST and I support FR 100%.
I am still “new” and in the learning mode. That said, I will not put up with B.S. If I am not correct, Flame on.
Yes, I am PRO-GUN, PRO-2nd Amendment, Pro-Life, and PRO-Freedom.(Also would like to see a lot smaller Government, with a lot more state Rights)
MOLON LABE
Careful what you wish for with "state Rights". Look at the restrictions and bans the state of New Jersey has on guns and ammunition.
You are correct.
If someone breaks into you’re home, the state of NJ requires you to do a lot of thinking before you react.
From the Law (one of the many ridiculous parts):
“These would include the age, size and physical condition of the parties.”
So I guess my 6’5” nephew might be guilty of murder but his frail 66 year old uncle would be might be deemed innocent of the same defense depending on the size of the assailant.
Only government could spend millions creating a law crazy as this.
This is why I will soon be out of here!
http://www.newjersey-legal-guide.com/New-Jersey-Self-Defense.html
That is the kind of cops that I grew up with.
I see why Christie is the governor. I wouldn't waste time in that unAmerican state.
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